Will religion give me peace?
Will it save me from this technological dystopia we find ourselves in?
Will it provide answers and truth?
Will it alleviate existential pain?
Should I try it?
Will religion give me peace? Will it save me from this technological dystopia we find ourselves in?
>Will religion give me peace?
No.
>Will it save me from this technological dystopia we find ourselves in?
No.
>Will it provide answers and truth?
No.
>Will it alleviate existential pain?
No.
>Should I try it?
If you want.
/thread Plus religion will seem fake and stupid if you try to adopt it as an adult
>Will religion give me peace?
As a Chrisitan I will speak about Christianity and my answer is: No, not immediately
>Will it save me from this technological dystopia we find ourselves in?
It's not the point
>Will it provide answers and truth?
Yes, the essential ones
>Will it alleviate existential pain?
No, even Jesus suffered
>Should I try it?
Nothing to lose, everything to gain
you post on /LULZ/, be honest about your immaturity
>bakers prey actively on hungry people and give them bread, those evil fricktards
chud and troony in alliance again
Big difference between feeding a hungry person bread and shoveling fairy tale lies down the throat of someone who is grasping at any spiritual purpose that comes there way. It doesn't matter if it ultimately improves their lives; everything built on a foundation of bullshit is inherently rotten.
>it's must be evil in every case because I personally don't believe it's true
>edgy anime girl.gif
>you post on /LULZ/, be honest about your immaturity
I'm not even talking about immaturity, I'm talking just about regular mental development. It's like any other habit, adults statistically have a poor long term conversion rate unless they were brought up with it as children.
I get it. We'll it doesn't hurt to try anyway
No. Unless you're only talking about morality, then maybe.
>No. Unless you're only talking about morality, then maybe
no? what no?
Honestly, and I don't mean to be rude, but I have no idea what you said. It's all politics to me, useless words and ideas that have no actual meaning on what the ultimate, individual basis of Christianity is.
I'm confident that 99% of Christians wouldn't understand what the sentence "in medieval Thomistic metaphysics there is a distinction between God as the first supernatural cause and natural motion as secondary causes" means, and I doubt they would care, since ones relationship with God is personal, unlike the way you look at it.
These are the works of theologians, which you're right the average Christian probably wouldn't understand. And yet the average modern secular person doesn't understand the equations of quantum mechanics and yet still puts their faith in it. That doesn't mean it doesn't matter.
Also to note, while yes Christian salvation is personal, modernized American Evangelical Protestantism has lost much of the communal soteriological theology of historic Christian Churches. It's why Catholics and Orthodox put so much emphasis on the Church as the Body of Christ, the Eucharist as a communion of believers, the collective love between Christians, and the goal to establish Jesus's message of the Kingdom of God on earth. You won't see much of that language among American Protestant who instead talk about "accepting Jesus as your personal Lord and Savior" which Catholics and Orthodox don't necessarily object to it's just that salvation is seen under a more mystical. This Evangelical attitude is a corruption of the Magisterial Reformers doctrine of sola fide, which emphasized the legal aspect of salvation, and which got "personalized" much later down the line due to various historical factors.
>These are the works of theologians, which you're right the average Christian probably wouldn't understand. And yet the average modern secular person doesn't understand the equations of quantum mechanics and yet still puts their faith in it. That doesn't mean it doesn't matter.
I disagree with this comparison. Religion is personal, while science isn't.
For example, if all books and knowledge suddenly disappeared, and all humans forgot everything we know. We would still rediscover that 2+2=4, even if we used different notations or a different numbering system, adding two rocks to two rocks would amount to four rocks. And that's the first step to rediscovering quantum physics equations. After some time, science would be rediscovered the same as it was before the knowledge purge.
But there is nothing that currently exists that leads to any religion that exists. It doesn't exist in the outside world, God exists within us.
That's why I believe there is no point to discussing the objective existence of God and religion in general.
>Religion is personal
Religion is a modern western academic construct and the way you're thinking about it is through an English speaking Protestant pov. "Religion" is more than just personal beliefs but also cultural practices and rituals. If we equate religion with personal beliefs only, who's not to day the ancient Greek philosophy movements like Platonism, Stoicism, Cynicism and the like weren't religions in their own right?
>We would still rediscover that 2+2=4, even if we used different notations or a different numbering system, adding two rocks to two rocks would amount to four rocks. And that's the first step to rediscovering quantum physics equations. After some time, science would be rediscovered the same as it was before the knowledge purge.
And I simply disagree with these set of assumptions. The experiments that lead to the discovery and formation of modern physics were done under very specific historical circumstances, if we lost all knowledge of science, who says future humans would even be asking the same kinds of questions as ours did that lead to those discoveries in the first place? Not to mention the importance of the material and historical context that allowed for the most recent generations to do these things, not having to worry about food or shelter and the like. Arbitrary truths like 2+2=4 seem self evident, but Kepler's laws of motion are not. Couple this with the fact that even if mathematics were developed again, different sets of axioms could be made up leading to possibly different kinds of mathematics.
>religion will seem fake and stupid if you try to adopt it as an adult
Only if you're an autistic moron who takes it literally.
When it comes to Christianity, it makes the most sense if you see it as a metaphorical story. Every story in the bible can have a decent moral lesson behind it that ultimately amounts to "be kind", and if you find a church that sees it the same way, it can be pretty nice.
>When it comes to Christianity, it makes the most sense if you see it as a metaphorical story.
Catholics and Orthodox have a long tradition of reading the Bible analogically according to their traditional hermeneutics. This isn't the same thing you're talking about but stories in the Old Testament are read and taught about as foreshadows to Jesus which is what makes them important. Not that they deny literal truth to some of them but it's usually not the main point.
The Catholic Church doesn't officially teach theistic evolution but since Darwin proposed it the Church has never had any major objections to the theory except when its presented in a purely naturalistic context. The Catholic Church tends to emphasize creationism of the person rather than the material, since in medieval Thomistic metaphysics there is a distinction between God as the first supernatural cause and natural motion as secondary causes. Thomism puts more emphasis on the fact that God's necessity upholds being itself and that this extends to contigent beings via the principle of sufficient reason. Not that Thomism is without its defects since for example Aquinas's cosmology held that the motion of the planets could be explained only through supernatural means, otherwise it has proven to still hold up well.
Muh methapors
Stfu heretic
The shit in the bible did happen for real
God knew there were morons whi would never understand.
Cope seethe dilate
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You use religion like a prostitute gets a tattoo
Ok rabbi schlomo the troony, whatever you say rabbi schlomo the troony
Christianity is based and a good way to rebel against secular society
When you crash and burn just ask God for forgiveness, ok?
You know eventually your butthole is going to prolapse, right troony anon? You are a feminine homosexual and not a woman. That wound between your legs is not and will never be a vegana.
You are no christian
Christians dont talk like this
Seek some self reflection
You're not Christian. You're just atheist/pagan who jerks off to his own "superiority"
Christianity has massive appeal to people with shitty lives and they actively prey upon individuals down on their luck for new converts, so yeah give it a try bud.
Noooo you cant just offer hope to the hopeless
And the peace of God, which transcends all understanding, will guard your hearts and your minds in Christ Jesus.
if you do actually read a bit about religions and don't just opt for christhomosexualry and worshiping the sky israelite
seek buddhism
look into the four noble truths
You need a personal connection to the divine or you will get nothing out of religion besides the ability to pretend you're happy on the internet.
Seek that through prayer or meditation first and then try religion. Then you need a community if you truly wish to be happy so look into church for that.
Religion is literally a western academic creation, literally we had to design words for it in other languages because the concept did not exist in them.
Their is churches and schools and teachings.
true, here is the proof
if you limit your religiousness to rituals you end up like this chud
Why go straight to christianity though? I've been learning about Islam and it seems pretty kino
the moment u believ in god u become god
Religion is a road map. You can have a road map in your hands and not follow it, like most of those larpers who calls themselves religious.