Mary is my neighbor, and I am commanded to love my neighbor as I love myself. She is also the bridge by which Jesus Christ is my neighbor, and through which I am commanded to love Jesus Christ as I love myself. But beyond this I am commanded to love God with all my heart, mind, and soul. I am NOT commanded to love myself to this extent, and thus not to love my neighbor to this extent, save the neighbor who is Jesus Christ. Ergo, I love Mary the Mother of Christ as I love you, Anon, but not as I love God.
>Debated by medieval theologians, (the immaculate conception) was not defined as a dogma until 1854, by Pope Pius IX in the papal bull Ineffabilis Deus.
>orthocucks
yikes, have fun in your crypto-marxist kgb temples and your hundreds of sects who keep anathemizing each other, I'm sure one of them has the truth
Because Protestantism is the worship of one's own mind. It's heresy. They're are modern day pagans, and pragmatic. They'll jump to whatever 'church' they believe will suit their needs, and when it doesn't work out, they'll go to another one. You can't claim to be a part of the body of Christ, as the in Protestantism, it's completely divided.
Catholics and Orthodox always like to frame things as if they're this universally bonded, guided, intellectually homogeneous capital-C Church, yet completely ignore not just what lead to the Reformation, but also all of the controversies before and after it as if they were only useful to be referenced as lessons and not as things which really and truly happened. Listen; the unity of the Church does not depend on Catholics nor Orthodox, but on the head of our church, Jesus Christ. >what is Sedevecantism >what is Novus Ordo >what are Old Calendarists >what is the Eastern Roman Empire >who is emperor Justinian >who is empress Theodora >what is the great schism >what is Sabellianism >what is the council of Nicaea, Arianism >what is Pelagianism, semi-Pelagianism >what is the Orthodox church ethnic divide where priests will literally tell people to go find another church because their congregation "won't accept them" >what is judaizing >what is the current wave of theologically and politically progressive thought plaguing the Catholic church which is really only a mutation of the concerted effort to hijack of the church throughout the 20th century >what is anti-Jesuitism >what is Gnosticism >what is Montanism >what is Nestorianism >what is Monophysitism >what is Monoenergism >what is Iconoclasm >what is Catharism >what is Jansenism >what is Branch theory >what is Purgatory >who is Jan Huss >who are the Antidicomarians >who is Aerius of Sebaste >who is Helvedius >what is Jovinianism >who is Gottschalk of Orbais >what is the Bosnian Church >who were the Waldensians >who is William of Ockham >who is Petrarch >why did Augustine face such heavy backlash for speaking about pre-destination? >what is Miaphysitism >what is the Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahedo Church
I don't think I've ever seen an Orthodoxer (that wasn't a Western LARPer) claim that its all the same church, it seems to be an overwhelmingly Catholic phenomenon where they pretend that there was some general Christian unity on every and any significant theological point prior to the Reformation
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True, but protestantism is still cancer
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Not any more cancerous than pretending everyone from "cultural" catholics that aren't even sure there is a god to pachamama worshippers and sedes that think the last five popes were invalid as members of one church just because they all tick the catholic box at census time
You missed the Union of Brest (1595) and the De auxiliis controversy which are watershed moments in Rome’s history. Where they are not theologicaly pluralistic.
The idea that Catholic ecclesiology avoids heresy and schism and enforces doctrinal unity unlike Protestant denominations is hilarious when you have literal pro-gay marriage Catholic bishops running around without any sanction from the Vatican.
>Why do protestants
Aren't you tired of this yet? Unlike the Orthodox and Catholics, Protestants can't be all lumped into the same group, because they don't have "sacred tradition" and the papacy or patriarchate breathing down their necks at all times threatening to punish them for wrongthink. I find it funny how doom and gloom tradcaths and orthobros online are about globalism and censorship (and let's not even get into how Christianity is inherently globalist), yet they praise to high heaven heavy handed punishments and call what is really unconsidered excommunication, glorified ancestor worship, and so on "based".
She wasn't the mother of Jesus, he wasn't born to anyone and descended to Earth in adult form. Marcion was correct.
Mary is my neighbor, and I am commanded to love my neighbor as I love myself. She is also the bridge by which Jesus Christ is my neighbor, and through which I am commanded to love Jesus Christ as I love myself. But beyond this I am commanded to love God with all my heart, mind, and soul. I am NOT commanded to love myself to this extent, and thus not to love my neighbor to this extent, save the neighbor who is Jesus Christ. Ergo, I love Mary the Mother of Christ as I love you, Anon, but not as I love God.
Why do catholics worship Mary as "co-redeemer" alongside Christ?
I don't know. I am not Roman Catholic, and I am at a very early stage in my catechesis.
«PROTESTANTS» HATE THE MOTHER OF GOD, BECAUSE «PROTESTANTISM» IS ANTICHRISTIAN.
She was just a sinner
annnnnnnnnd we have a heretic here.
>Debated by medieval theologians, (the immaculate conception) was not defined as a dogma until 1854, by Pope Pius IX in the papal bull Ineffabilis Deus.
>orthocucks
yikes, have fun in your crypto-marxist kgb temples and your hundreds of sects who keep anathemizing each other, I'm sure one of them has the truth
I'm a Protestant and I answered yes to all the questions
I don’t hate her. I’m just going to pray directly to Jesus is all. I don’t see why you shouldn’t pray to Jesus.
Because Protestantism is the worship of one's own mind. It's heresy. They're are modern day pagans, and pragmatic. They'll jump to whatever 'church' they believe will suit their needs, and when it doesn't work out, they'll go to another one. You can't claim to be a part of the body of Christ, as the in Protestantism, it's completely divided.
Catholics and Orthodox always like to frame things as if they're this universally bonded, guided, intellectually homogeneous capital-C Church, yet completely ignore not just what lead to the Reformation, but also all of the controversies before and after it as if they were only useful to be referenced as lessons and not as things which really and truly happened. Listen; the unity of the Church does not depend on Catholics nor Orthodox, but on the head of our church, Jesus Christ.
>what is Sedevecantism
>what is Novus Ordo
>what are Old Calendarists
>what is the Eastern Roman Empire
>who is emperor Justinian
>who is empress Theodora
>what is the great schism
>what is Sabellianism
>what is the council of Nicaea, Arianism
>what is Pelagianism, semi-Pelagianism
>what is the Orthodox church ethnic divide where priests will literally tell people to go find another church because their congregation "won't accept them"
>what is judaizing
>what is the current wave of theologically and politically progressive thought plaguing the Catholic church which is really only a mutation of the concerted effort to hijack of the church throughout the 20th century
>what is anti-Jesuitism
>what is Gnosticism
>what is Montanism
>what is Nestorianism
>what is Monophysitism
>what is Monoenergism
>what is Iconoclasm
>what is Catharism
>what is Jansenism
>what is Branch theory
>what is Purgatory
>who is Jan Huss
>who are the Antidicomarians
>who is Aerius of Sebaste
>who is Helvedius
>what is Jovinianism
>who is Gottschalk of Orbais
>what is the Bosnian Church
>who were the Waldensians
>who is William of Ockham
>who is Petrarch
>why did Augustine face such heavy backlash for speaking about pre-destination?
>what is Miaphysitism
>what is the Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahedo Church
I don't think I've ever seen an Orthodoxer (that wasn't a Western LARPer) claim that its all the same church, it seems to be an overwhelmingly Catholic phenomenon where they pretend that there was some general Christian unity on every and any significant theological point prior to the Reformation
True, but protestantism is still cancer
Not any more cancerous than pretending everyone from "cultural" catholics that aren't even sure there is a god to pachamama worshippers and sedes that think the last five popes were invalid as members of one church just because they all tick the catholic box at census time
You missed the Union of Brest (1595) and the De auxiliis controversy which are watershed moments in Rome’s history. Where they are not theologicaly pluralistic.
The idea that Catholic ecclesiology avoids heresy and schism and enforces doctrinal unity unlike Protestant denominations is hilarious when you have literal pro-gay marriage Catholic bishops running around without any sanction from the Vatican.
England is the dowry of Mary, simple as
redpill me
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dowry_of_Mary
Actual fanfiction lmao
No more so than France being 'the eldest daughter of the Church'. England is the dowry of Mary. Simple as.
>Hail the Divine Augustus, the Ruler of God
>Mighty Pilate, the Killer of God
>The israeli Priests, the Judges of God
it just gets weird
>unironically believing in the Titans
>Why do protestants
Aren't you tired of this yet? Unlike the Orthodox and Catholics, Protestants can't be all lumped into the same group, because they don't have "sacred tradition" and the papacy or patriarchate breathing down their necks at all times threatening to punish them for wrongthink. I find it funny how doom and gloom tradcaths and orthobros online are about globalism and censorship (and let's not even get into how Christianity is inherently globalist), yet they praise to high heaven heavy handed punishments and call what is really unconsidered excommunication, glorified ancestor worship, and so on "based".
Mary is the mother of God and not God. Why do Catholics have such a hard time with this
>Mary is the mother of God
Verse ?
Interesting flow chart
Still not going to kneel before Mary statues
>Catholics love worshipping Mary so much they make a flowchart to post on a Ugandan cookie baking forum to defend it
A roman soldier named pantera fricked her