This, those who claim to hold no reigion are also the ones who base their identities on failed ideologies and attack anyone who questions the validity of their truths
What use is there for God outside of religion?
God doesn't solve any philosophical or metaphysical problems in the modern scientific age. If anything his existence just overcomplicates things.
>What use is there for God outside of religion?
Coping with stress and the fear of the unknown. >There are no atheists in a fox hole.
Ever heard of this?
>Coping with stress and the fear of the unknown.
Presumably you would want a complete religion for this, I'm not sure what the concept of an indifferent deistic creator being would do for you.
>There are no atheists in a fox hole.
That's a cope. If you were ever in a situation where you genuinely thought you were going to die, you'd know that thinking about god doesn't even cross your mind.
>If you were ever in a situation where you genuinely thought you were going to die, you'd know that thinking about god doesn't even cross your mind.
This is... not true? Perhaps it is in a high-stimulus situation where you are moments away from instant death, but if given some proper time to think about it God will sneak his way into your mind eventually.
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>but if given some proper time to think about it God will sneak his way into your mind eventually.
the thing is that it didn't
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Cool story bro. I guess you're just built different, as the kids say. But for the rest of us there's a reason deathbed confessions are a thing.
Moral relativism poisoned your mind enough that you forgot to remember what words even mean.
I think about pears all day? My mind is pear quality.
You think about strawberries? Strawberry quality mind.
Quality doesn't have to be more valid in Marcus' mind, as that is turning the whole concept into a pointless ad hominem simply because your insecurities drove you to do that.
Perhaps the quality of your mind is insecure tard.
You bastard, are you trolling me???
I'll kill you.
Just in case you aren't, I'll help my fellow man out of love for the human condition.
It simply means that the quality of your mind is dictated by whatever you think about.
Imagine you have watercolor and three clean glasses of water.
The one in which you dip the color red will turn red.
The one in which you dip the color blue will turn blue.
Then one in which you dip both colors will turn purpleish.
The colors define the quality/color of the glass.
No color is more valid than the other, they are all different and all valid at the same time.
Because religion is by definition that which brings us closer to God. If God is the Absolute Good, it is an absurd contradiction to claim He is not constantly working to bridge the gap between Man and the Divine.
>it is an absurd contradiction to claim He is not constantly working to bridge the gap between Man and the Divine.
It's literally in the Garden of Eden story that he won't do that moron
I think it's more accurate to say they had a less organized religion than Roman-Catholics, but a more organized one than an African animist. Faith was a very big part of Roman life and statecraft.
I listen to Meditations on the way to work often times (and Proverbs/Psalms). Marcus may not have been Christian or strictly religious, but he's very clear there is an over-arching God in Heaven and he conducts himself accordingly (Yes yes, he does leave room for there being nothing... but that's not his initial reaction/instruction)
>but he's very clear there is an over-arching God in Heaven and he conducts himself accordingly
Yes, and that God was Jupiter, alongside the other Roman Gods.
They don't. Ancient Romans for example believed in gods yet they didn't have any organized religion
I think it's more accurate to say they had a less organized religion than Roman-Catholics, but a more organized one than an African animist. Faith was a very big part of Roman life and statecraft.
The Romans had a very organized religion, and it was more organized than Christianity (the Church Fathers that this was one of the obvious reasons that Christianity and Judaism were the one true religion). What they didn't have was a massive body of textual hermeneutics as they worshiped Gods that (they believed) actually existed, rather than books and institutions.
If you believe in gods, you'll probably want to worship them if only because they're super powerful and could help you out. Start doing that and suddenly hey you've got a religion.
Everyone has a God, some just don't want to name him
define "God" and why it's necessarily a "him"
That which you worship, believe will bring you joy and fortune. For you it's gay porn on Reddit, for me it's Jesus Christ Our Lord and Savior
This, those who claim to hold no reigion are also the ones who base their identities on failed ideologies and attack anyone who questions the validity of their truths
So, my soul is Black because shiny, throbbing BBC plowing every pigskin female is the only thing in it?
What use is there for God outside of religion?
God doesn't solve any philosophical or metaphysical problems in the modern scientific age. If anything his existence just overcomplicates things.
>What use is there for God outside of religion?
Coping with stress and the fear of the unknown.
>There are no atheists in a fox hole.
Ever heard of this?
>Coping with stress and the fear of the unknown.
Presumably you would want a complete religion for this, I'm not sure what the concept of an indifferent deistic creator being would do for you.
>There are no atheists in a fox hole.
That's a cope. If you were ever in a situation where you genuinely thought you were going to die, you'd know that thinking about god doesn't even cross your mind.
>I am an atheists and I don't think about God in dangerous situations. Theists BTFO.
This fricking board is something else.
>If you were ever in a situation where you genuinely thought you were going to die, you'd know that thinking about god doesn't even cross your mind.
This is... not true? Perhaps it is in a high-stimulus situation where you are moments away from instant death, but if given some proper time to think about it God will sneak his way into your mind eventually.
>but if given some proper time to think about it God will sneak his way into your mind eventually.
the thing is that it didn't
Cool story bro. I guess you're just built different, as the kids say. But for the rest of us there's a reason deathbed confessions are a thing.
Marcus how is your conception of quality any more valid than anyone else's
Moral relativism poisoned your mind enough that you forgot to remember what words even mean.
I think about pears all day? My mind is pear quality.
You think about strawberries? Strawberry quality mind.
Quality doesn't have to be more valid in Marcus' mind, as that is turning the whole concept into a pointless ad hominem simply because your insecurities drove you to do that.
Perhaps the quality of your mind is insecure tard.
Ok what does turning into a strawberry mean for anyone except as an exercise in mental masturbation
You bastard, are you trolling me???
I'll kill you.
Just in case you aren't, I'll help my fellow man out of love for the human condition.
It simply means that the quality of your mind is dictated by whatever you think about.
Imagine you have watercolor and three clean glasses of water.
The one in which you dip the color red will turn red.
The one in which you dip the color blue will turn blue.
Then one in which you dip both colors will turn purpleish.
The colors define the quality/color of the glass.
No color is more valid than the other, they are all different and all valid at the same time.
I don't get it I guess my quality is a void then
I hate this
you tell people you believe in God and some fedora tipper mocks you as a christcuck.
Because religion is by definition that which brings us closer to God. If God is the Absolute Good, it is an absurd contradiction to claim He is not constantly working to bridge the gap between Man and the Divine.
>it is an absurd contradiction to claim He is not constantly working to bridge the gap between Man and the Divine.
It's literally in the Garden of Eden story that he won't do that moron
They don't. Ancient Romans for example believed in gods yet they didn't have any organized religion
I think it's more accurate to say they had a less organized religion than Roman-Catholics, but a more organized one than an African animist. Faith was a very big part of Roman life and statecraft.
I listen to Meditations on the way to work often times (and Proverbs/Psalms). Marcus may not have been Christian or strictly religious, but he's very clear there is an over-arching God in Heaven and he conducts himself accordingly (Yes yes, he does leave room for there being nothing... but that's not his initial reaction/instruction)
>but he's very clear there is an over-arching God in Heaven and he conducts himself accordingly
Yes, and that God was Jupiter, alongside the other Roman Gods.
The Romans had a very organized religion, and it was more organized than Christianity (the Church Fathers that this was one of the obvious reasons that Christianity and Judaism were the one true religion). What they didn't have was a massive body of textual hermeneutics as they worshiped Gods that (they believed) actually existed, rather than books and institutions.
nope. Look it up. He was referencing a different pantheon in his writing. I'll admit it wasn't Christ, but it wasn't the Olympus crew
If you believe in gods, you'll probably want to worship them if only because they're super powerful and could help you out. Start doing that and suddenly hey you've got a religion.