>hold you at gunpoint and demand you to give me your wallet >you don't >i shoot you >you actually shot yourself by freely choosing not to hand over your wallet
The existence of hell is something that atheists and Christians both believe in. I'm not being hyperbolic at all here, atheists really do believe in it, they just perceive it as a state of liberation, at least at first.
A belief in the existence of heaven and hell implies a belief in the existence of god, and atheists by definition do not believe in the existence of god
I've heard this theory. For those who aren't informed, God infuses faith and repentance in a minority of them them right before death, those whom God deems worthy of salvation. For the majority they go to hell and God does not give this faith and repentance right before they die.
You don't have to believe in Christ to go to hell, anyone who's willfully sinned and does not repent during life goes to hell. Whether or not you're sinning is impossible not to notice, you feel it, demon's can nearly entirely blind you to this fact and let you live in denial but ultimately you're still complicit and so you get punished anyway
>born in bumfrick nowhere with no chance of hearing about christianity >get sent to hell because you didn't believe in the right god you never heard about
religious larpers really are beaten housewives trying to justify the atrocities of their abusive husband
I've heard this theory. For those who aren't informed, God infuses faith and repentance in a minority of them right before death, those whom God deems worthy of salvation. For the majority they go to hell and God does not give this faith and repentance right before they die. So, they do technically have the chance if God chooses to infuse faith and repentance in them right before they croak.
You're not attacking traditional Christian doctrine here, only a caricature of it. Everyone necessarily believes in God to some extent. The Buddhist who believes in God's charity, His love, and His mercy worships Him in a small way whether he is aware of it or not. But the closer he gets to uncovering the whole truth, and the more he rejects it, the more harshly he will be judged. Any troglodyte can be saved. This is not some obscure position, it's always been around and is still taught by the Church. Believing in Christ doesn't mean just acknowledging His authority.
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>everybody totally believes in god >just ignore the fact each one is so different (even within our own religion)
sounds like god is at fault for having extremely inefficient methods but is to prideful to admit it so lashes out against others, then again you are probably an autist who can't really wrap you head around the fact people have different opinions and just make up delusions that everybody totally believes the same thing but for some reason just say no, it would be fun watching somebody like you make that claim in a website dedicated to another religion
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I'm not really sure what you're getting at here, every Christian must necessarily believe that even infidels rely on God. Simply making fun of that isn't taking the conversation in a productive direction. >For without Me, ye can do nothing.
I know this is a intentionally shit/bait thread, but I do wonder why people who are so "worried" about people going to Hell seem to conveniently ignore the medically recorded accounts of the 7-9 million people, every year, who have a Near Death Experiences.
93% of people who have a Near Death Experience go to Heaven. They literally go to Heaven: they meet lower-case gods and angels, they talk with deceased loved ones, and they meet God. Capital G God. Actual God. People lack the words to describe how good it feels to be in the presence of God. And then they come back with information they couldn't have had when they were alive and a positive outlook on life. This feels like it would be a more significant talking point for religions and yet I don't see threads spamming the actual good news that admission into Heaven is almost universally insured and guaranteed. Millions. We have literally millions of people visiting Heaven in 10-30 minute intervals, every year, and I never see Christians rejoice in this reality.
I'm forced to treat this as evil. That this is actually satanic behavior.
The idea that it's so important to someone's spirituality that people go to Hell; that evidence of God's unconditional love and entry into the kingdom of Heaven can't be acknowledged because it's just so much more infinitely important that "people I don't like suffer."
I have no free will since all actions are really reactions to circumstances that are caused by reactions to other circumstances. This link continues all the way to God Himself Who created the world with perfect fore knowledge of what those reactions would lead to and have no other choice but follow on that predestined path.
>If you don't accept this random semite from 2k years ago as literally God on the word of some other random semites God will condemn you to an eternity of torment. Because he loves you.
Literal schizo shit. Any God that claims to be good but will condemn people to eternal suffering if they don't have faith in some dubious Messiah figure (whom the vast majority of humans never heard of before the 18th century anyways, frick those people), is an evil God and worth defying even if it means eternal torment. Anything less is slave mentality and why Christians are boot licking pathetic pushovers.
Why do Christians choose to go to hell? Almost every Muslim and no matter what kind of Christian you are, several million Christians of an antagonistic denomination are dead certain that you’re going to hell with the atheists. If you don’t take their threat seriously, why should I take (Yours)?
I have come to understand that being stripped of Jesus, individually or lineally, is the worst thing ever but also that with God's hand involved is one of the most greatest signs of faith on some prodigal son vibes. That's all I'm thinking about. You, meanwhile be triggered.
>hold you at gunpoint and demand you to give me your wallet
>you don't
>i shoot you
>you actually shot yourself by freely choosing not to hand over your wallet
You were moronic. Thanks for proving OPs point.
How can atheists choose that which they, by definition, don't believe exists?
The existence of hell is something that atheists and Christians both believe in. I'm not being hyperbolic at all here, atheists really do believe in it, they just perceive it as a state of liberation, at least at first.
A belief in the existence of heaven and hell implies a belief in the existence of god, and atheists by definition do not believe in the existence of god
>christard theory of mind
>can create infinite suffering
>can't destroy iron chariots
Uhh Abrahamic sissies?
The Lake of Fire is for Christians that have accepted Christ but then turned away from Him.
People who have never been informed about Christ and actual Atheists are simply annihilated after death.
Most actual atheists have accepted Christ and turned away from Him though.
You mean most *American* Atheists
I've heard this theory. For those who aren't informed, God infuses faith and repentance in a minority of them them right before death, those whom God deems worthy of salvation. For the majority they go to hell and God does not give this faith and repentance right before they die.
You don't have to believe in Christ to go to hell, anyone who's willfully sinned and does not repent during life goes to hell. Whether or not you're sinning is impossible not to notice, you feel it, demon's can nearly entirely blind you to this fact and let you live in denial but ultimately you're still complicit and so you get punished anyway
>born in bumfrick nowhere with no chance of hearing about christianity
>get sent to hell because you didn't believe in the right god you never heard about
religious larpers really are beaten housewives trying to justify the atrocities of their abusive husband
I've heard this theory. For those who aren't informed, God infuses faith and repentance in a minority of them right before death, those whom God deems worthy of salvation. For the majority they go to hell and God does not give this faith and repentance right before they die. So, they do technically have the chance if God chooses to infuse faith and repentance in them right before they croak.
You're not attacking traditional Christian doctrine here, only a caricature of it. Everyone necessarily believes in God to some extent. The Buddhist who believes in God's charity, His love, and His mercy worships Him in a small way whether he is aware of it or not. But the closer he gets to uncovering the whole truth, and the more he rejects it, the more harshly he will be judged. Any troglodyte can be saved. This is not some obscure position, it's always been around and is still taught by the Church. Believing in Christ doesn't mean just acknowledging His authority.
>everybody totally believes in god
>just ignore the fact each one is so different (even within our own religion)
sounds like god is at fault for having extremely inefficient methods but is to prideful to admit it so lashes out against others, then again you are probably an autist who can't really wrap you head around the fact people have different opinions and just make up delusions that everybody totally believes the same thing but for some reason just say no, it would be fun watching somebody like you make that claim in a website dedicated to another religion
I'm not really sure what you're getting at here, every Christian must necessarily believe that even infidels rely on God. Simply making fun of that isn't taking the conversation in a productive direction.
>For without Me, ye can do nothing.
>Any troglodyte can be saved
John 14:6
You're supposed to figure oit the plot of the Bible from tealeaves. Chud.
>Why do Atheists choose to go to Hell?
I know this is a intentionally shit/bait thread, but I do wonder why people who are so "worried" about people going to Hell seem to conveniently ignore the medically recorded accounts of the 7-9 million people, every year, who have a Near Death Experiences.
93% of people who have a Near Death Experience go to Heaven. They literally go to Heaven: they meet lower-case gods and angels, they talk with deceased loved ones, and they meet God. Capital G God. Actual God. People lack the words to describe how good it feels to be in the presence of God. And then they come back with information they couldn't have had when they were alive and a positive outlook on life. This feels like it would be a more significant talking point for religions and yet I don't see threads spamming the actual good news that admission into Heaven is almost universally insured and guaranteed. Millions. We have literally millions of people visiting Heaven in 10-30 minute intervals, every year, and I never see Christians rejoice in this reality.
I'm forced to treat this as evil. That this is actually satanic behavior.
The idea that it's so important to someone's spirituality that people go to Hell; that evidence of God's unconditional love and entry into the kingdom of Heaven can't be acknowledged because it's just so much more infinitely important that "people I don't like suffer."
Why do you not trust in Allah the Most Merciful? You can be damning yourself to Jahannam.
I have no free will since all actions are really reactions to circumstances that are caused by reactions to other circumstances. This link continues all the way to God Himself Who created the world with perfect fore knowledge of what those reactions would lead to and have no other choice but follow on that predestined path.
Also why does that wall of theological text contain an image of oriental degeneracy?
>PicRel
Simple, It doesn't exist.
>If you don't accept this random semite from 2k years ago as literally God on the word of some other random semites God will condemn you to an eternity of torment. Because he loves you.
Literal schizo shit. Any God that claims to be good but will condemn people to eternal suffering if they don't have faith in some dubious Messiah figure (whom the vast majority of humans never heard of before the 18th century anyways, frick those people), is an evil God and worth defying even if it means eternal torment. Anything less is slave mentality and why Christians are boot licking pathetic pushovers.
The article's from the Pope Michael catechism (RIP).
Why do Christians choose to go to hell? Almost every Muslim and no matter what kind of Christian you are, several million Christians of an antagonistic denomination are dead certain that you’re going to hell with the atheists. If you don’t take their threat seriously, why should I take (Yours)?
I have come to understand that being stripped of Jesus, individually or lineally, is the worst thing ever but also that with God's hand involved is one of the most greatest signs of faith on some prodigal son vibes. That's all I'm thinking about. You, meanwhile be triggered.
Because God decided way back that they would