Which religions are eliminated by the problem of evil and which are logically consistent
>Religions that do not answer the problem of evil and are therefore serfslop:
Catholicism and Orthodoxy
Protestantism
Islam
Jehovah's Witnesses
>Religions that answer the problem of evil and are therefore possibly valid:
>God is not omnipotent
Hinduism
Gnosticism
Manichaeism
Mandaeism
Deism
>God is not good
Calvinism
Judaism
Ancient dogon religion
>No gods required
Buddhism
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>Hinduism
>Gnosticism
>Manichaeism
>Mandaeism
>Deism
Good list. Reading recs? I'm rolling through the rest of the Nag Hammadis now. Already determined Enoch is fake so don't swing that one at me.
I'm exploring the non-canonical gospels right now. Started reading the gospel of Judas and will read the Gospel of Thomas next. Idk about the others but I befriended the Mandaean owners of my local israeliteelry shop so maybe when I revisit I can ask for something.
I love Marcion but his gospel is lost so how do you know it's superior?
>Idk about the others but I befriended the Mandaean owners of my local israeliteelry shop so maybe when I revisit I can ask for something.
Intradasting
>I love Marcion but his gospel is lost so how do you know it's superior?
I think he's basing it on Marcion's collation. Marcion's Bible collection was the first, but notably excludes the OT and only incorporates some of what is today the NT into it. It was probably a safer move because half of what's in the Bible isn't really holy, it's just there for context.
>It was probably a safer move because half of what's in the Bible isn't really holy, it's just there for context.
Not only that but contradictory and self sabotaging.
Thanks, I will read
For legitimacy and "tradition". A new religion cannot just pop up and start contesting with rivals with no foundations, though i have sympathies with Marcion as he was on the right trajectory.
>because half of what's in the Bible isn't really holy, it's just there for context.
>Not only that but contradictory and self sabotaging.
The ot sucks get over it
Marcion Gospel reconstructed through Tertullian
http://gnosis.org/library/marcion/Gospel1.html
It's an interesting read but I really don't think we should be trusting Tertullian, the guy who made up the whole feeding Christians to lion thing.
>Good list.
No it isn’t it’s shit.
>Reading recs?
For gnosticism?
For “”Hinduism””?
For what?
>I'm rolling through the rest of the Nag Hammadis now
Try reading “The Other God” by Yuri Stoyanov
Marcionism is just another variant of Gnosticism.
Citation needed.
You have a Reddit-tier understanding of theology.
>Marcionism is just another variant of Gnosticism.
Marcionism is superior to all of these
Sikhism. God is both the fountain of evil and good
Why would you worship and evil god if you were not evil yourself?
You misunderstand. God is everything in Sikhism. Human actions in previous lives and their current life cause evil. But all things flow from God
>You misunderstand
No, I didn't. We've moved past that point already. You recognized evil, so why venerate it? And worse, why would you anticipate it in higher planes?
It’s not a schizo israelite religion so they don’t think in black and white like bpd christcucks.
define evil
It does not have to have a definition for the problem of evil to be a valid disqualification.
If evil is confirmed to exist and God is omnipotent then he has caused it to happen.
no, evil is morally relative
a god who created and controls the universe is beyond human standards and morality
define evil
>no, evil is morally relative
If you believe this it means you have no morals to begin with.
then define evil in concrete terms
Different anon, but I will jump in cause this autism looks fun.
Evil is the absence or rejection of God.
Evil is defined by good, what you determine to be good determines what is evil. So it’s all subjective, since anything can be evil nothing is.
>Which religions are eliminated by the problem of evil and which are logically consistent
Islam. Everything is predestined and evil happens because Allah feels like it.
that do not answer the problem of evil and are therefore serfslop:
>Catholicism and Orthodoxy
Huh? They have some of the most consistent answers across in the entire list. Just because they don't drom the attributes you want to get rid of doesn't mean they're invalid.
>>God is not omnipotent
>Hinduism
Hinduism isn’t a religion it’s a category for taxation purposes.
>Gnosticism
Incorrect, Gnosticism is so broad that you can’t accurately say that. For example in some forms of Gnosticism God (the monad) is omnipotent but just doesn’t give a shit.
>Manichaeism
That’s just a form of gnosticism.
>Mandaeism
Again just another form of gnosticsm.
You also forgot Mormonism which holds God as a category rather than an actual being itself.
You need to frick off back to plebbit till you learn more about theology.
>in some forms of Gnosticism God (the monad) is omnipotent but just doesn’t give a shit.
Which ones?
Zurvanism, a Gnostic variant of Zoroastrian, Zurvan was the Monad and created to letter beings, a Good “God” and a bad “God” then stopped caring.
*lesser beings.
Islam aligns with Calvinism. The two basically have the same answer: God doesn't owe you shit. It's at least honest tbh.
*Religions that i don't like and therefore i deem them wrong
ftfy anon
All of them disassociate Evil from their God(s) when in truth their God(s) created Evil and using it, the whole thing is fine tuned for Evil, it's not a fluke.
All these religions except Catholicism and Orthodoxy are from the Devil
>https://www.scribd.com/doc/45898784/The-False-Prophet-Azazel
>Catholicism
Wtf is wrong with slavs and their desperate desire to be anything but Slavic?
Almost like "Slav" is a made up identity that people instinctively reject
Thomism. God allows evil to draw good from it.
What makes a israelite schizophrenic? How did israelites become schizophrenic?