Where in the bible does Jesus say I Am God; Worship Me?

Where in the bible does Jesus say “I Am God; Worship Me”?

It's All Fucked Shirt $22.14

Yakub: World's Greatest Dad Shirt $21.68

It's All Fucked Shirt $22.14

  1. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    John 10:29-30
    >[29] My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand. [30] I and my Father are one.

    Jesus is saying here, "my father is the greatest and I am my Dad" - which is a large part of why he was killed. Such blasphemy from one who was known by his followers as "Rabbi" didn't sit well with most other israelites for obvious reasons.

    • 4 months ago
      JWanon

      He didn't say " I am my Dad", why are you adding to Scripture ?

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        "I and my Father are one" = "I am my father"

        • 4 months ago
          JWanon

          In what sense are they "one" ? In the sense "I am my dad" ? That's not what he said

          We do have a clue of what he meant though. Later, Jesus PRAYED that his disciples could “ALL BE ONE,” just as he and his Father ARE ONE.—John 17:20-23

          In what sense were his disicples were to be ONE ? In the sense of unity, cohesion. They had to work together as a team, just as Jesus and God are working in unison.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            John 17: 20-21
            >“I ask not only on behalf of these but also on behalf of those who believe in me through their word, that they may all be one. As you, Father, are in me and I am in you, may they also be in us,
            He means one in purpose

            If he didn't want his followers to worship him as a God he certainly did nothing to disabuse them of that impulse. It would be hilarious though if most Christians were worshipping a guy who would be horrified to learn that he was being worshipped in the first place.

          • 4 months ago
            JWanon

            >If he didn't want his followers to worship him as a God

            Because he's not

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            How do you explain John 8:57-59?
            >57 So the israelites said to him, “You are not yet fifty years old, and have you seen Abraham?”[b] 58 Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I am.” 59 So they picked up stones to throw at him, but Jesus hid himself

          • 4 months ago
            Alectorios

            That’s the best evidence I have seen in this thread so far.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            >anon, you know I had a crush on you in highschool, right? You didn't even notice the signals I was givi-
            >LIAR. WHEN DID YOU SAY BACK THEN "I HAD A CRUSH ON YOU" VERBATIM?

            >In what sense are they "one" ?
            Read the context. It's about how no-one can pluck believers out of either the Father or Jesus' hands. Jesus is literally saying that his authority is tantamount to the Father's.

            >If he didn't want his followers to worship him as a God

            Because he's not

            He is.

          • 4 months ago
            JWanon

            >It's about how no-one can pluck believers out of either the Father or Jesus' hands

            Because they are one in purpose

            >He is

            Not

            How do you explain John 8:57-59?
            >57 So the israelites said to him, “You are not yet fifty years old, and have you seen Abraham?”[b] 58 Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I am.” 59 So they picked up stones to throw at him, but Jesus hid himself

            See:

            http://defendingjehovahswitnesses.blogspot.com/2012/05/john-858-did-jesus-really-say-i-am.html?m=1

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Because they are one in purpose
            The angels are also one in purpose with God, yet can an angel say "no-one can pluck you out of my hand?" Jesus is claiming that his power is equal to the Father in that no-one can pluck believers out of their hands.

          • 4 months ago
            JWanon

            >The angels are also one in purpose with God

            Jesus is even more

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            How can you be more "one in purpose" ? That makes zero sense. Either you're one in purpose, or you're not.
            But applying this logic to John 17:20-23 that you quoted, that means the way in which the believers will be one isn't the exact same in which Jesus and the Father are one, right? So you can't use that verse to disprove the Trinity, then, because Jesus isn't necessarily saying that the believers will possess a oneness in like manner to the oneness that Jesus has with the Father. So there's no discrepancy.

          • 4 months ago
            JWanon

            >How can you be more "one in purpose" ?

            Simple, Jehovah ‘fully knew’ his Son from his intimate association with him during countless ages past (Matthew 11:27)

            It is extremely important to realize that God did not send some angel to rescue mankind. He made the supreme sacrifice of sending his only-begotten Son, “the one he was specially fond of.”—Proverbs 8:30; John 3:16.

            This is true because Only Jehovah’s firstborn Son could measure up to the special needs of the situation involving sinful mankind.
            He is such an image of his heavenly Father in showing affection for members of the divinely produced family that he is without equal among the sons of God. Since all other intelligent creatures were brought into existence by means of him, his affection for them would certainly be abundant.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            Shut your mouth and stop preaching a sermon. I said, how can you be more "one in purpose." To be one implies that there's no division between the two. You can't be "more one," that makes zero logical sense.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Shut your mouth and stop preaching a sermon.
            Jesus dude, the Jehova's Witness anon wasn't even being rude or anything

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            Doesn't matter. Was Elymas the sorcerer rude to Paul when Paul cursed at him and struck him blind in Acts 13:10?

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            Paul was in the wrong there too. Of all people to attack someone for practicing magic, it probably shouldn't be the guy most famous for worshipping his sorcerer friend.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Paul was in the wrong there too.
            Acts 13:9 - the verse right before - says that Paul was filled with the Holy Spirit when he did this. Are you calling the Holy Spirit in the wrong?

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            I'm sure he felt that way, sure, but feeling justified by the "holy spirit" (or any other spirit) doesn't make a violent act of hypocrisy any less hypocritical.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            Where does the verse say he "felt justified?" Piss off and stop butting in.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            Reading comprehension surprisingly isn't your strong suit lol.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Several translations phrase John 8:58 the correct way by which Jesus was actually illustrating how long he has existed. One, for instance:
            >"Jesus answered, "The truth is, I EXISTED BEFORE ABRAHAM WAS EVEN BORN!" (NLT)
            http://defendingjehovahswitnesses.blogspot.com/2012/05/john-858-did-jesus-really-say-i-am.html?m=1

            I'm sorry JWanon, but I still don't see how that changes the meaning any. By saying, "I existed before Abraham" he's still heavily implying he's God - or at the very least not human.

          • 4 months ago
            JWanon

            Jesus was a spirit creature in heaven before he was born as a human on earth. Jesus himself said: “I have come down from heaven.”—John 6:38; 8:23.

            God created Jesus before he created anything else. Regarding Jesus, the Bible says:

            “He is the firstborn of all creation.”—Colossians 1:15.

            He is “the beginning of the creation by God.”—Revelation 3:14.

            Jesus fulfilled the prophecy about the one “whose origin is from ancient times, from the days of long ago.”—Micah 5:2; Matthew 2:4-6.

            >Did Jesus really say this thing the Bible says he said?
            >No, the bible is corrupted by Paul and Constantine!
            what is the meaningful difference between JWs and Muslims?

            Consider the following more accurate translations:

            "I was in existence before Abraham was ever born." (The Living Bible)

            "Before Abraham was, I existed." (New Living Translation, 1995 Edition)

            "Before Abraham was, I already was." (Bible in Worldwide English)

            "Before Abraham was, I have been." (New American Standard Bible, Footnote, 1960 and 1973 Edition)

            "From before Abraham was, I have been." (The New Testament, by G. R. Noyes.)

            "I existed before Abraham was born!" (The Bible—An American Translation, by J. M. P. Smith and E. J. Goodspeed.)

            "Before Abraham was born, I was already the one that I am." (Das Neue Testament, by Jörg Zink.)

            "I was alive before Abraham was born!" (The Simple English Bible)

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            I feel like that kind of undercuts his whole sacrifice in the first place if God is essentially saying, "only the blood of my best underling Angel can convince me not to torture all humans forever."

          • 4 months ago
            JWanon

            See:

            >How can you be more "one in purpose" ?

            Simple, Jehovah ‘fully knew’ his Son from his intimate association with him during countless ages past (Matthew 11:27)

            It is extremely important to realize that God did not send some angel to rescue mankind. He made the supreme sacrifice of sending his only-begotten Son, “the one he was specially fond of.”—Proverbs 8:30; John 3:16.

            This is true because Only Jehovah’s firstborn Son could measure up to the special needs of the situation involving sinful mankind.
            He is such an image of his heavenly Father in showing affection for members of the divinely produced family that he is without equal among the sons of God. Since all other intelligent creatures were brought into existence by means of him, his affection for them would certainly be abundant.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            My point still stands. God isn't sacrificing himself, he's just substituting human sacrifice for angel sacrifice which makes the entire New Testament a lot more horrifying, existentially speaking.

          • 4 months ago
            JWanon

            God cannot die anon

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Did Jesus really say this thing the Bible says he said?
            >No, the bible is corrupted by Paul and Constantine!
            what is the meaningful difference between JWs and Muslims?

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      John 17: 20-21
      >“I ask not only on behalf of these but also on behalf of those who believe in me through their word, that they may all be one. As you, Father, are in me and I am in you, may they also be in us,
      He means one in purpose

    • 4 months ago
      Alectorios

      Wait. Isn’t God in everything including us? Isn’t God the father of all?

  2. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God
    ...
    >And the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us

    • 4 months ago
      JWanon

      Was a god*

  3. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Where in the Bible does it say "Verily I say, thou shalt shit up anime image boards with thine tedious neckbeard atheist posts?"

  4. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Claiming to be a bearer of the divine name and claiming to be one with Jehovah would also have been seen as blasphemy

Your email address will not be published. Required fields are marked *