What exactly makes something a "cult" and not a religious group? Not enough normies believe in it?

What exactly makes something a "cult" and not a religious group? Not enough normies believe in it?

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  1. 6 months ago
    Xsyara

    literally how widely accepted it is

    you are coooooooooooooooooooooooorrect

  2. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Religions have more of a mass following, so yeah more normie recognition

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      literally how widely accepted it is

      you are coooooooooooooooooooooooorrect

      reddit-tier smoothbrain take

      the real answer is that a "cult", by nature, must have hidden teachings and degrees of initiation. freemasonry is a cult. thelema is a cult. wicca is a cult. some fringe sects of hinduism and buddhism are cults.

      The only different between a cult and a major religion is the number of followers, yes. Judaism started as a Yahwist cult that competed with the worship of Ba'al. Christianity started as a cult that competed with mainstream Judaism. Islam started as a cult that competed with both Christianity and Judaism. And so on and so on forever.

      Cult leaders can change history forever. Never let anyone tell you they're not important.

      >Christianity started as a cult
      no, because christianity never had any hidden teachings. they're actually, ironically, pretty much the opposite of a cult by standard definition.

      The Christcucks have done their best to make the term "Cult" as something evil, but it just means a religious group. They consider a cult to be anything other than their religion. Yes, some cults are totalitarian and Vicious, so here's a more balanced Evaluation by Isaac Bonewits about dangerous cults that don't have your best interests at heart:
      https://www.neopagan.net/ABCDEF.html

      no, a cult is a religion that has secret teachings and degrees of initiation. the neo-druid isaac bonewits should understand this very well, and it's a great blow to his credibility if he does not.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        >ironically the real reddit smoothbrain take

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          "cult am just religions that am unpopular" is a moron-tier take if you're any older than 14, frickin' cope man

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        Christianity does have hidden teachings and Jesus said it himself. Degrees are stages into a religion and Christianity has them as well!
        ""Christian initiation” refers to the ritual process employed by various churches in forming new Christian converts through catechesis (instruction) during the “catechumenate” to baptism, post baptismal rites (including hand-laying and anointing, sometimes called “confirmation”), culminating in First Communion and leading to the further integration of these newly initiated members into ongoing Christian life through “mystagogy.”
        So, by your definition, Christianity is a cult! Yes, Bonewits knew about degrees and the Druid order he founded has them.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Christianity has no secret teachings
        What did the nephilim look like?
        What did the watchers look like?
        What are apocrypha?
        What is the churches history of oppression of heresy?

        The secret teaching is that Christianity is a religion of blood and genocide, you only learn this once you are too deep in to leave. The level of mental gymnastics it takes to believe that a Yahweh is anything but a demon in angels clothing is astounding.

        New potential converts and young children are left completely ignorant of all these questions that the Bible fails to answer, because it's simply a piece of censored propaganda.

        Christianity is a cult of Yahweh killing his own son

  3. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    The only different between a cult and a major religion is the number of followers, yes. Judaism started as a Yahwist cult that competed with the worship of Ba'al. Christianity started as a cult that competed with mainstream Judaism. Islam started as a cult that competed with both Christianity and Judaism. And so on and so on forever.

    Cult leaders can change history forever. Never let anyone tell you they're not important.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      kill all kings and queens, hold the heads of princes and erase their dominion from this earth if you care about freedom

  4. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    when it's the reverse and I'm skinning christians + pagans alive and don't care about you who are unless you make a good partner to the skinning and eating

    I don't care much about religions, I just wanna feel intensities and touch things more ancient than this modern era, I don't care about what hellish monsters that find themselves inside of me to possess me, all I know is that everything must be destroyed and that's all I know, we're going back to being cavemen and I don't care about god, gods, jesus, nor ever being saved, they're the enemy and I just want to be free, it's itching and scratching out of my skin to just be free

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      kill all kings and queens, hold the heads of princes and erase their dominion from this earth if you care about freedom

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        [...]
        Destroying those faiths wouldn't automatically unbrainwash you bro.

        that's why whenever they're gone we kill ourselves too

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          You realize that by giving these belief systems this much psychic energy you're still playing into them, right? The only winning move is to STUDY these faiths from a detached historical perspective so as to appreciate why and how they emerged. After that point, you can truly feel more comfortable in letting those ideas go.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            I don't give a frick, it was death from the start anyways, I have idiots like you that wanna dissect it as anything else

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            It sounds like you just want something to complain about then

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            There is everything to complain about, I have a billion grievances non-ending

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            Have you considered taking things into your own hands? Impotent rage isn't a good look.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            Keep the apocalypse rolling, key in, right on frame, and make a 2 hour movie out of it already you dumb fricks

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      kill all kings and queens, hold the heads of princes and erase their dominion from this earth if you care about freedom

      Destroying those faiths wouldn't automatically unbrainwash you bro.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      You're literally a b***h for a horde of demons, fricking edgelords.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        Smug atheists and satanists ironic or unironic are literally having their soul gangbanged by demons 24/7

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        Smug atheists and satanists ironic or unironic are literally having their soul gangbanged by demons 24/7

        You morons are gay as frick and literally gaslight demons to be this way fricking homosexuals

        I will in fact keep having sex with demons and spirits outside of the domain of society in very dark areas at night

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          Cool enjoy hell I guess.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            I'm preparing for hell every day honestly, I'll survive there like I've survived here

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            I don't think you understand what "Hell" really is anon. It's not some cool dark underground nightclub where all the edgy sinners go to sin for eternity.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            Bring it on

            I'm imagining infernal raging hatreds with the coals baked to max as my flesh boils into mutilated pusscesses in a limit experience of torment and pain, and if this is the world you're going to just toss me into for what I do, I don't give a frick, burn me till I die and I'll survive, I think about it every day while already writing while experience simulating me being torn about with organs tapped to a table, I wasn't the one who exactly made hell, but if I must go through it in order to finally touch light, that's fine, at one point I never had eyes to see and now I do, that's all I know, behind that just words and imageries to describe what I'll see next as my life slows down a drain of 20 to 60 years, I want liberation before my biology is intersected into ur fricking God systems as you try to strip me of my own ficking biology, I call from inside of my life and your God keeps you from the nightmares so you live in Disney land as if

            Right under heaven, what keeps the engines is 10,000 infernal generators fed on the flesh of ur others, and why, because "my messiah", most Roman's didn't even really think on such a world till ur religion showed it how to make a infernal engine that can be used to spiritually harden and correct others

            I preferred the desert honestly and would rather stay in it than go to hell for sure, but I will survive and go through whatever I can to exist, I just know whenever the earth blew into pieces I never had a name written down on a piece of paper till I was made to be written down by the oil derelicts that jerk God off to death

  5. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    In the strictly literal sense there’s no difference between a cult and a religion besides the connotations you choose to apply to both. What has historically differentiated cults from religons is that religions were just cults that the king/empower or endorsed or otherwise approved of.

  6. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    a lot of things could be considered cults.
    it all boils down to basic tribal think and human beings not having an explanation for their existence or place in the universe.
    paired with the fact that many people have seen some rather spooky stuff. they draw their own conclusions and find their tribe, i guess.
    everyone is wrong about everything for the most part. in all likelihood we are a farm planet or annunaki slaves or whatever.

  7. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Is that pic from the ultra-patriotic "saint germain" USA cult?

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yes. It's quickly becoming my new obsession, which is a little scary but oh well I'm sure I will figure things out

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      In circles with more scrutiny, the word cult is used specifically for more destructive and controlling groups that demand all your loyalty money and labor. There's a difference between a bunch of hippies meeting up to charge crystals and see UFO's and then a cult that wants the leader to frick your wife and change your name and kill someone for him

      You're thinking of the Church Universal and Triumphant, yes that's where OP got it from. Saint Germain is one of the guys they worship

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        >You're thinking of the Church Universal and Triumphant
        You sure? I think

        Yes. It's quickly becoming my new obsession, which is a little scary but oh well I'm sure I will figure things out

        is but I'm pretty sure the OP image is from Guy Ballard's organization in the 30s

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          You're right, I'm a dumbass and always ignored the I AM movement. I was thinking of this b***h and similarly patriotic spirituality

          ?t=643
          She made her group all build huge underground bunkers and live in them thinking the Soviets were gonna nuke America

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        Also "cult" could easily refer to destructive and dogmatic non-religious groups too, like political groups, self-help groups, even companies

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        >CERN Shiva statue
        Uhh what did they mean by this?

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          Do you fricking /x/ schizos think CERN invented this ancient as frick Shiva statue or were the first to copy it

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            No but I'm wondering why both groups decided to go with the exact same one.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            It's like asking why two different groups use the crucifix, it's a very common and old symbol
            In facts it makes more sense for a new age theosophist-rooted cult to use the Shiva statue than CERN

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          They also worship the statue of liberty, they use fricking everything

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            I fricking hate normalized necromancy

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            Is that really at Cern? If so, then they also worship St Germain.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            surprised they don't worship cern-unnos

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Is that really at Cern?
            No you fricking moron, it's a Church Universal and Triumphant altar. Learn to read

  8. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    olden times: local/regional smol denomination equivalent, sometimes human leader, other times patron deity
    modern times: always human leader, almost always exploitative, usually psychically abusive

    words used to mean things

  9. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    All religion is cult. Religion is cult that has massive culture with it.

  10. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    there's basically no difference between a cult and a religion, except the volume of violence it's capable of exerting on outside cults/religions

  11. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    A religion is a tradition of conscious personal development, a cult is a group with a shared object of worship and rituals.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      >A religion is a tradition of conscious personal development, a cult is a group with a shared object of worship and rituals.
      Catholicism is a cult got it

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        So are all branches of Xtianity, get off your high horse.

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Xtianity
          Hi Moishe

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            my family is wasp as frick, and growing up i always spelled it "xtian" (and "xmas" etc.) just because it's shorter and easier

            serious question, is abbreviating christ as x a "israeli" thing?

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            >is abbreviating christ as x a "israeli" thing?
            I was under the impression it what, sort of like how they will never write out the word "God"

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            X and P joined together is a symbol of Christianity! So, X is short for Christ. "XP" and :PX", and the extra "t" is to distinguish them from "Xian" which has other meanings.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            >anyone who reads more than me is a israelite
            It's based on the Greek Χριστός

  12. 6 months ago
    Anonymous
  13. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    To me a cult is a combination of unhinged and malice. Scientology is huge as frick, still a cult. If they weren't like running police departments and gangstalking people, I'd be more inclined to say the silly thetan alien group is a form of religion.
    Heavens Gate without the koolaid wouldn't be much different than those odd one-off churches you see with really specific beliefs.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Heaven's Gate is really unique in that they allowed members sometimes to just leave into society if they wanted, literally just pay you a bus ticket if you didn't want to be with the crunchy granola UFO group anymore.
      They were really adamant about you only being there if you actually wanted to, too bad about the ball stuff and suicide though. It was really relaxed compared to shit like Aum Shinrikyo

  14. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm sure a bunch of reddit-tier edgelords are going to refer to academic definitions to imply that bland Protestant churches are just the same as Heaven's Gate.

    In common parlance, I think a "cult" is distinguished by a high degree of separation from surrounding society, an emphasis on rejecting other social bonds in favor of the cult, and a demand that a member's efforts be devoted almost exclusively to the group as opposed to meeting individual or outside group needs.

    So meeting once a week at a temple to pray, giving it a portion of your income, and still being able to have friends or family who don't go to the temple is not what most people would think of as a "cult".

    Living on a compound with other members, spending most of your working efforts to support the group, and being strongly discouraged or punished for having contact with outsiders is what most people would consider a "cult".

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      >high degree of separation from surrounding society, an emphasis on rejecting other social bonds in favor of the cult, and a demand that a member's efforts be devoted almost exclusively to the group as opposed to meeting individual or outside group needs
      That is the academic definition

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        I meant the ones that essentially say any shared beluef system is a "cult"

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          That's the more ancient literal definition

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            Well maybe I messed up my word choice but hopefully my point still came through.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah I get it, I'm just being a little shit. But I don't care about redditors

            The difference is in how we define society. You, being a globalist, believe society to be some world-wide thing. I believe it to be a small, tribal-level in-group. By your definition, what I call society is a cult, but from where I stand your version of society is much more cult like as it predicates an assumption of oneness with objective others

            Meds status: Untaken

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        The difference is in how we define society. You, being a globalist, believe society to be some world-wide thing. I believe it to be a small, tribal-level in-group. By your definition, what I call society is a cult, but from where I stand your version of society is much more cult like as it predicates an assumption of oneness with objective others

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          I'm not sure if your comment was directed at me but I'm the one who provided the definition involving separation from outside society.

          I dont know what you mean by being a "globalist" and I'm not sure I really got your point.

          Suppose you have a few thousand people living in a city who mostly speak the same language and are largely economically interconnected. Would that be too large to constitute a "society" for you?

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            oh i ma sure you felt attacked b being "called" a "globalist"; follow this fear and i will corner you between opinions... avoid that, if i am not being ~ mark~ to manipulate enough -- do you still care if this is "et tech"?
            just let the ants march. maybe it's funny to fix?

  15. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    How willing they are to share what they know without strings attached. This is distinct from evangelism, which always comes with strings attached.

  16. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    The Christcucks have done their best to make the term "Cult" as something evil, but it just means a religious group. They consider a cult to be anything other than their religion. Yes, some cults are totalitarian and Vicious, so here's a more balanced Evaluation by Isaac Bonewits about dangerous cults that don't have your best interests at heart:
    https://www.neopagan.net/ABCDEF.html

  17. 6 months ago
    Anonymous
  18. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Haha and funny allusion to the book "Illuminati"

  19. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Its a cult when the leader is still alive. Its a religion if people still believe it after hes gone.

  20. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    If you like it, its a religion. If you don't like it, it's a cult. Simple as
    >but muh hidden teachings
    There's hidden teachings in virually every discipline, including things like carpentry and programming

  21. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    my freedom is to post in here and see my post indirectly rebuked. i know i'll rest in peace, unlike yall paranoid weirdoes.

  22. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    In cults you worship a person.

    In religion you worship deities.

    But, the Truth, well my brother, is found only in one man. Jesus Christ.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      keyed

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Kindly stop "worshipping" me and lose my grave's address, creepy Pagan swines. You will NEVER be israeli.
      >t. Yeshu ben Miriam

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        You don't worship Christ, you walk with Him.

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          Jehova's Witness?

  23. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Cults require initiation and genuine belief and commitment. There's no such thing as a casual cultist.

    Religions, on the other hand, are lower commitment. There are plenty of religious people for whom their religion is just how they were raised and it functions more as a social club.

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