So are low Protestant marriages just meaningless ordinances that don't convey any grace?

So are low Protestant marriages just meaningless ordinances that don't convey any grace? Can Protestants even claim that their marriages have greater validity than secular ones in any way?

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  1. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Jews

  2. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Marriage is the only way to have sex without being in sin. Marriage is not a "rite" or "sacrament" and does not "confer grace".

    >Can Protestants even claim that their marriages have greater validity than secular ones in any way?

    Never did.

    >b-but that's not what I believe!
    Don't care.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Marriage is the only way to have sex without being in sin. Marriage is not a "rite" or "sacrament" and does not "confer grace".
      So is there a difference between a Protestant marriage and a secular or Muslim one?

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        No. Is there in your religion? Would you have a convert couple remarry?

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          So if the state performed a gay marriage is it valid if they join a church? Shouldn't they marry women?

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            You dodged my question.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            Because what I am trying to get an answer to is whether marriage is a matter of religious or civil authority. According to Paul, Christian marriages are of a different validity than non-Christian ones:
            >And a woman who has a husband who does not believe, if he is willing to live with her, let her not divorce him.For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband; otherwiseyour children would be unclean, but now they are holy.But if the unbeliever departs, let him depart; a brother or a sister is not under bondage in suchcases.But God has called usto peace.
            1 Corinthians 7:13-15
            If a secular marriage is to be considered no different from a Christian one would Paul give this accommodation?

            Marriage is between a man and a woman.

            Therefore there is no gay "marriage" in the eyes of God and a church should have free rein to remarry gay men who have repented to women, regardless of what civil authority says, no?

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            Abandonment is already a legal grounds for divorce.

            >Therefore there is no gay "marriage" in the eyes of God and a church should have free rein to remarry gay men who have repented to women, regardless of what civil authority says, no?
            Their "gay" "marriage" was never valid, but as far as marrying women afterwards, I don't think churches marry people without the state's permission.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Abandonment is already a legal grounds for divorce
            But is it biblical grounds?

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yes. The only biblical grounds for divorce are abandonment and adultery.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            proofs?

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            Marriage is between a man and a woman.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Orthodoxy does

  3. 4 months ago
    Dirk

    >low
    What do you mean by that?

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      In contrast to groups like the Anglo-Catholics

      • 4 months ago
        Dirk

        High/low is a liturgical distinction
        Anglo catholicism isn't necessarily one or the other

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          High churches use the terminology of sacrament while low churches favor ordinance

  4. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    All marriages have grace. God instituted it for all humanity.

  5. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >meaningless ordinances

  6. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    More atheist false flag spam.

  7. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    When did Papists decide marriage should be elevated to the level of Baptism and the most Holy Eucharist? Must have been fairly recent considering that for the vast majority of history marriage was conducted almost wholly by the landed nobility.

  8. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >So are low Protestant marriages just meaningless ordinances
    as meaningless as the courts decide they are when they divide up all the husband and wife's assets during a divorce

  9. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >So are low Protestant marriages just meaningless ordinances
    Protestants, Catholics and the Orthodox are all israelite worshippers lol.
    You are all evil idiots.

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