Praxis-telos of each major religion

Islam & Christianity = die for your faith
Buddhism & Christianity = become a celibate recluse
Judaism & Islam = have a healthy stable family
Zoroastrianism & Hinduism = do good things
Shinto & Tengrism = be in harmony with everything around you

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  1. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    >christianity
    humanistic. Humanity is redeemed
    >islam
    aesthetic. Escape secular chaos with the majesty of god's art form
    >judaism
    esoteric. Their truth is mysterious enough to be safe from the world
    >hinduism
    naturalistic. God is everywhere
    >buddhism
    philosophical. The human mind is on its own
    >shinto
    traditional. Thousands of ancestors can't all be wrong

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Cringe

      Based

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      This is theoretical, not practical

      Cringe

      Based

      Is there any reason to say this besides big words

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        It isn't theoretical. You're saying christianity teaches, practically speaking, to both die for your faith and become a celibate recluse? You're wrong.

        • 6 months ago
          OP

          >You're wrong
          What is the endgoal-action at the end of christianity then, those things also aren't opposites, many christian saints were both celibate monks and martyrs

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            forgive "humanity" (yourself) with the help of "the king of kings" "the man on the throne" (yourself without sins or limits)
            it's a mind trick. It just happens to be a step forward from most other belief systems

    • 6 months ago
      OP

      already made a thread about theory-telos though

      [...]

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        They all have the same praxis of bureaucratization over time, roughly the same proportion of militarists and pacifists, the same old books and schisms and controversies. They are all the same shit. Except maybe shinto is less of a big deal

        • 6 months ago
          OP

          That is so original

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            Your ideas all blur the line between theory and praxis. The first two because nobody does them, the rest because everyone aspires to them.

          • 6 months ago
            OP

            >The first two because nobody does them
            theyre still objectively the telos of those religions, the ultimate endgoal of christianity is martyrdom or celibacy, of islam its family and martyrdrom etc.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            it isn't. The purpose of religion in society is not to tell you when to go to war, nor even to determine how big your family is. All these "major" religions (zoroastrianism?) say to submit to higher human authorities bearing the threat of force, not needlessly martyr yourself. Their goals relate to human experience, having a life free from the guilt of sin, (which arguably gets inverted in a majority atheist world, but that's a different discussion) living a pure life in the Muslim case, etc etc. They are inherently spiritual pursuits. To the degree that one fights or builds differently from the other, it's not the end goal of their spirituality.

          • 6 months ago
            OP

            excuse me, but reducing martyrdom to warfare is already massively inferred and completely read-into;
            >Their goals
            you universalizing these religions and shoving them all into a single "common" epistemological framework is also completely ridiculous and makes me believe youre either an aristotelian or a highly pretentious neo-sophist, either way you clearly lack proper discernment and base your points fully on reductionism
            >two biggest religions both conveniently warlike
            >the rest as tree huggers
            case in point

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            Act offended all you like, I described those religions in terms of how they are practiced. It's my characterization of YOUR beliefs that sounds ridiculous.

          • 6 months ago
            OP

            that's not a counterargument, it's a statement

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            No u

          • 6 months ago
            OP

            and the statement is, "if you don't like how I phrased your position, just refute it"

            calling my post generalizing and sophistry is truly, genuinely not an argument because your thread is founded on just such a premise.

            It took you 3 posts to make 0 arguments

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            against what? after I destroyed your claim, there was nothing to respond to.

          • 6 months ago
            OP

            Right, what was my claim again?

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            three claims
            that my first post ITT was theoretical, that yours describes a real telos, and that you have the right to get pissy over generalizations after making a post like OP. As it happens, none of those things required an argument. More like I said them back to you and that was it.

          • 6 months ago
            OP

            >that my first post ITT was theoretical
            That is 1 claim, not 3, and it wasn't even that central; also i've had a counterargument in my first response already to which all you said was just polemics

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            >a counterargument in my first response
            I don't see it here
            >This is theoretical, not practical
            that's just a wrong statement
            nor here

            already made a thread about theory-telos though [...]

            doubling down on your previous post
            nor here

            >You're wrong
            What is the endgoal-action at the end of christianity then, those things also aren't opposites, many christian saints were both celibate monks and martyrs

            feigning engagement when your intention was always to shut down

            help me out

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            and the statement is, "if you don't like how I phrased your position, just refute it"

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            calling my post generalizing and sophistry is truly, genuinely not an argument because your thread is founded on just such a premise.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            and I notice you have the two biggest religions both conveniently warlike, and the rest as tree huggers. It's true that both muslims and christians are currently engaged in wars, but I think the behavior of the so-called muslim world in response to Israel is proof enough that martyrdom isn't their major concern.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      >philosophical
      Do you philo me peter?

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      >aesthetic. Escape secular chaos with the majesty of god's art form
      You are smoking something that's probably not legal.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        Solid colors, geometry and calligraphy are anti-materialist art. These sweeping lines reach for heaven. Just because it sounds nice doesn't mean it's advanced, christianity is superior

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        >*tells you what to wear*

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        Wahhabis have no aesthetic. However, traditional Muslims like Sufis have peak aesthetic

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          No they don't. Muslims across the board have shit aesthetics, that's one of their most defining characteristics.
          >ugly language
          >stupid looking hats
          >shitty robes
          >unkempt beards
          >no 3d art
          >no music
          >next to zero literature
          >everything is designed to stiffle creativity and imagination

          Solid colors, geometry and calligraphy are anti-materialist art. These sweeping lines reach for heaven. Just because it sounds nice doesn't mean it's advanced, christianity is superior

          >Solid colors, geometry and calligraphy are anti-materialist art.
          Yeah you're smoking something, islam is the most materialistic religion there is.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Look at these morons trying to be deep lol. Mystical union of man and the divine is the final endpoint in *all* religion, catholic and ethnic alike. Buddhism is really the outlier as the humanistic religion par excellence.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        Damn... Totally reductive yet still expecting to be taken seriously... A post with such extreme contradictory logic, there can be no coherent response. In other words, a direct challenge to shut up and leave the thread, but I don't think I will. Hows about you shut the frick up and leave instead, if we're establishing dominance? Fricking moron.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        buddhism is the opposite of any kind of humanism

  2. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Christianity = Live for Christ
    ftfy anon
    also forgot
    >atheism = be a cringe neckbeard

  3. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Zoroastrianism & Sikhism = do good things
    FTFY. Nobody would consider poo eating as a good thing except Hindus.

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