Might actually go Coptic
>even further outside of Rome’s sphere than EO (=essentially crypto-Catholicism)
>peaceful, hope-filled iconography
>positive view of human nature owing to miaphysite Christology
>it’s obvious that Jesus loves Egypt, Armenia, India, Ethiopia, etc.
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view of human nature owing to miaphysite Christology
Elaborate. OO are Augustinians too
The recognition of Christ's divine nature as a second nature alongside His human nature in Eastern Orthodox theology, as articulated in dyophysitism, brings into sharp focus the contrast between human imperfection and divine perfection. This theological stance has profound implications for how one understands the human condition in relation to God. The statement that Christ is fully divine “despite being” fully human emphasizes the limitations and imperfections of humanity. Christ's divine nature is perfect, holy, and sinless, while his human nature experiences the conditions of human life without succumbing to sin. This contrast illuminates the shortcomings and fallen state of humanity in general. That icons in the Eastern Orthodox tradition depict figures with solemn expressions aligns with this emphasis on the holiness and transcendence of God, as well as the themes of repentance and spiritual struggle.
By contrast, miaphysitism emphasizes a single united nature of Christ (divine human). This perspective suggests a more intrinsic sanctification of human nature through the Incarnation. The emphasis is on the restoration of human nature to its original state of holiness, as created by God. As a result, miaphysite icons, such as those in the Coptic tradition, often depict figures with more relaxed and sometimes even humorous expressions. This can reflect the miaphysite emphasis on the incarnation and the sanctification of human nature. The more approachable expressions in these icons may also reflect a theological and spiritual emphasis on the closeness of the divine to the human experience, the joy of salvation, and the restoration of humanity.
>Christcuckery
>positive view of human nature
Pick one
Thanks for proving my point. The Incarnation presents an extremely positive view of man. But only someone immersed in dyophysitism would fail to see that.
>Becoming a Monophysite
If you think Eastern Orthodoxy is an ethnic religion, Oriental Orthodoxy is literally an ethnic religion.
They also are Judaizers who do circumcision and stuff so good luck with your pp
1. Miaphysitism is not the same as monophysitism (the latter being a smear)
2. Christianity has always been an ethnic religion (which was open to anyone)
3. Only the Ethiopians and they say it’s cultural and not religious
>3. Only the Ethiopians and they say it’s cultural and not religious
Coptics do it as well
I think it's mandatory for Tewahedo (Ethiopian and Eritrean) but cultural for Coptics, Syriacs and Armenians.
>[infant genital mutilation is] cultural for Coptics, Syriacs and Armenians
Sad. The influence of Islamic invaders truly was a scourge
Most Armenians in the West are circumcised but few are in Armenia. I doubt Islamic influence had anything to do with it for any of them.
Tewahedos certainly weren't motivated by Islam. They don't eat pork either. Abyssinian Christians are culturally influenced by Judaism and their royal families claimed descent from Solomon.
>doubt Islamic influence had anything to do with it for any of them.
I definitely think it was in the case of Copts. I doubt the Alexandrian See was circumcising prior to the caliphates
>Tewahedos certainly weren't motivated by Islam
Which is why I singled out Copts, Syriacs and Armenians. Copts and Syriacs were definitely influenced by Islam. Armenians, maybe under the Turks who knows. As for circumcision in the West, depends on where they are - US, sure, UK, not so much
>Most Armenians in the West are circumcised but few are in Armenia. I doubt Islamic influence had anything to do with it for any of them.
Yeah looks like it's around 0.1% in Armenia. You can't blame Islam for this tbh.
https://pophealthmetrics.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12963-016-0073-5/tables/1
No Islamic influence in Armenia sure but for Copts and to a lesser extent Syriacs it's undeniable. 94% rate in Egypt
>Might actually go Coptic
I wish you the best. I hope that you have heard and believe the Gospel and carry it with you into the Church. I’m not too sure how effectively the OO teaches it.
>even further outside of Rome’s sphere than EO
If you basing your faith path on what isn’t Rome than you are probably doomed for damnation, because you aren’t pursuing
Christ, you are just ass-blasted at Catholics. I hope that isn’t true for you. Important to assess why you are doing something.
>peaceful, hope-filled iconography
Their icons are very nice. I prefer Coptic style of Byzantine, but I also don’t place much value on lifeless matter.
>positive view of human nature owing to miaphysite Christology
I think it’s important to balance the view of human nature and to believe we can in no way save ourselves. Im not sure where OO stand on original sin.
>it’s obvious that Jesus loves Egypt, Armenia, India, Ethiopia, etc.
Jesus loves all people. But yes they Copts, Syriacs and Armenians have suffered much yet marched forward. Especially with Armenia being the 1st Christian nation.
I’ve been to a lovely Coptic church but they also hold if you want to convert you need to convert with your spouse. They won’t accept only one partner converting because they will believe your marriage is invalid unless they do it and they won’t marry 2 people that aren’t BOTH part of their denomination. Since my wife is happily Methodist that means even if I wanted to be OO it would never happen.
> If you basing your faith path on what isn’t Rome than you are probably doomed for damnation, because you aren’t pursuing Christ, you are just ass-blasted at Catholics
It’s not invalid for Christians to resent Rome
>It’s not invalid for Christians to resent Rome
It actually is, or at least your post reads that way to me. Simple question, are you becoming OO because you love Christ, want to follow him and believe OO theology is the best path for that, or because you resent Rome and want to join a church that has a position that opposes theirs?
If by “”resent”” Rome you mean, “I disagree with their theology. Then you can take that position, but you will need to resent Constantinople, and Moscow, and literally every other Christian denomination in the world. It’s just a very odd choice of word. If your resentment is specifically targeted at Rome than you probably need to assess why you are converting to OO.
> OO because you love Christ, want to follow him and believe OO theology is the best path for that, or because you resent Rome and want to join a church that has a position that opposes theirs?
If it were the latter then don’t you think I’d be Protestant or Muslim?
> If by “”resent”” Rome you mean, “I disagree with their theology. Then you can take that position, but you will need to resent Constantinople, and Moscow, and literally every other Christian denomination in the world
I am a miaphysite
>If it were the latter then don’t you think I’d be Protestant or Muslim?
Well that’s why I’m asking. I want it to be because you sincerely believe it.
See (
) “I wish you the best. I hope that you have heard and believe the Gospel and carry it with you into the Church”.
It could be that maybe your just picking OO because they have a much stronger position to argue again Catholics than Muslims or EO. I dont know your heart that’s why I asked.
>I am a miaphysite
I have no problem with that. I recognise that the miaphysite are saying basically the same thing as the Catholics. In or Of 2 natures matters very little to me.
I just want to make sure you aren’t converting on the basis of resentment, rather than love.
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Egyptians bringing orthodoxy to Russia.
>Jesus loves (...) Armenia
>the country reduced to a rump state after more than a century of continuous cucking by Turks and Azeris
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