My god this book is boring
>all telling, almost no showing
>dull, one sided characters
>so much fluff, exacerbated by mediocre prose
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My god this book is boring. >all telling, almost no showing. >dull, one sided characters
you have to understand we didn't have the internet back then. if someone told you a thing was cool you just had to believe them.
Yeah it went on way too long. Keep it to 300 pages next time mr herbert.
I actually found interesting how the planet Arrakis molded the freemen to be the way they are and how Paul trying to fight destiny only to find himself at the spot he fought so hard, what I got from the book is all about one's fighting against force outside of him and how those force make the man and people, but yeah, it's was kind long then was need.
I think it gets good after Paul buck-breaks Jamis.
Can you go for more than 5 minutes without bringing up black people?
I stopped reading at Heretics. The first three are good, messiah being the best in the series, after that it's just Herbert's ramblings.
>messiah being the best in the series
correct
For postwar Boomer scifi, it's practically Moby Dick.
Never understood why people liked this, seemed like boomer schizo babble.
boomers have shit taste, what else is new
recently my friend and i read through the dune series and now he cannot stop speaking chakobsa. he insists he is a fremen native and does the sand walk in public like an idiot. he refuses to leave home without his fremkit (backpack) and stillsuit (heavy duty raincoat). it is summer so due to this he is sweating profusely and he complains about wasting his water on the living. he uses his thumper (iphone x) to call shai hulud (an uber) and speaks to the usually ethnic driver as if they too are fremen natives. i have had to stop him from walking out into traffic recently as well. he insists that he is the kwisatz haderach and has seen the way across. we went to an asian restaurant and he threatened to stab me with his gom jabbar (chopsticks). at this point, i am getting sick of it all. please give me another book for him to obsess over so we can leave this dune phase behind.
You're friend almost certainly has autism. I know this because I do and from 2017 to 2019 I was certain on a spiritual level that I was a replicant blade runner just like K. I wouldn't leave my house without a my long heavy duster and just about every day after work I'd reenact the baseline test. I recorded the interview lines and played them off my PC so I could point my phone straight at my iris to track it's dilation. WITHIN CELLS INTERLINKED. INTERLINKED? INTERLINKED.
The solution is very simple. Get him into speed cubing. There's pussy at speed cubing tourneys and that should moderate his obsessive tendencies.
Blood Meridian. Get him larping as the Judge.
Space Spanish Governorship.
Walk without rhythm.
Spice orgy.
Duncans.
Yum yum sapho brutal revenge.
I am the Emperor now.
Dune is bookino.
I stopped halfway through and never picked it up again
There's great mythology in Dune, with the terminology, rituals and history of the peoples. The biggest problem with Dune is that the prose is like Arrakis - drier than a woman's snatch when in your presence.
The characters all speak the same (with the exception of terminology), the description of....anything is often just a statement. There's no...spice to the prose, there's no charm. Everything is largely just matter of fact.
The film/s is better than the book because it humanises the characters and actually adds drama to the plot, unlike the book which just runs from one dry description to the next.
Dune - great ideas, but the book is let down by dull pacing and dry prose.
6/10.
i thought the film was boring soulless slop, villeneuve is like nolan but without the autistic edge that adds just enough eccentricity to keep an otherwise emotionally deficient experience interesting, just dull, lifeless spectacle
so if people actually thought it was an improvement I guess I'll steer well clear of the books
This is a new braindead take.
Counter it, form a better argument.
Not sure where to start, only that the statement 'which just runs from one dry description to the next', is obviously ridiculous.
The book is very action-oriented, and you learn bit by bit more about Arrakis and the world around it. Dry descriptions are not part of it. It's simple, evocative prose like you need for sci-fi.
I can only imagine what you consider good prose. Do you need to get slapped in the face with metaphors to feel good?
You used commas wrong in nearly every sentence of a post talking about good prose. lel
Action oriented? The final "battle" is pretty much glossed over within a page or two. Nowhere near Tolkien's epic battle sequences in LotR.
Dune - good ideas, but a shit novel. The recent film is much better.
Good. Leave "action" out of literature, it doesn't translate. Tolkien is babyshit. No depth. The film, by the way, is vapid garbage.
Audiobook it. The one I listened to was amazing. Great voice acting and occasional musical score and sound effects.
>no showing
it's text moron. go read comics.
>all telling, almost no showing
You have to decipher what is shown through the tells though, that's what makes it interesting.
You read the series for the god emperor in the 4th book and the erotica in the last two books. Id say it doesnt get "good" till the second trilogy.