is Dzogchen really an "antinomian" and "DIY" religion as some paint it?

is Dzogchen really an "antinomian" and "DIY" religion as some paint it? From what I've read, it takes very seriously Nagarjuna's dictum of nirvana is samsara, samsara is nirvana, as well as almost denying transmigration of the soul, asserting nirvana itself isnt permanent, and emphasising every sentient beings buddhahoodlatent buddha nature.
What's the real deal here? is Dzogchen the ultimate dharma pill?

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  1. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >antinomian
    Depends on your nomian, tbh. Compared to orthodox Theravada, yeah.

    >DIY
    Sort of. Empowerment, and direct instructions on the practices, is gated by a Lama. You must receive Dzogchen empowerment to do Dzogchen. But the core principle is extremely relaxed and deceptively simple. It truly is just abiding within the intrinsic nature of mind, and the practices of Dzogchen, in and of themselves, are usually less complex than Mahamudra, though they often click together.

  2. 4 months ago
    Tripfag

    Bro hasn't clearly realized the 5 aspects of samantabhadras

  3. 4 months ago
    Inversion

    >tantra
    Union between the male and female.

    The sage show the moon, the moron look at the finger. Every single time.

  4. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    too much silver in your blood

  5. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    No. It is for manbun-wearing weebs to feel special. Really pathetic "system" and the adherents (lol) are bottom-of-the-barrel as far as occultists go.

  6. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    nirvana is indeed samsara
    totality exists in every experience

  7. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I wish I knew, these cretins recognized me as a minor tulku only to never set me in course for geshe, seems that I'm not sound of mind. And 10 is too old.

  8. 4 months ago
    W. de Koning

    If it's guru-based / gated by specific human beings it can only be relatively more antimonian than some other pre-arranged path.

  9. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    If it's guru-based / gated by specific human beings it can only be relatively more antimonian than some other pre-arranged path.

  10. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    tibetan vajrayana seems like a super complex maze game. there are 3 classes of tantra broadly, but also 6 yogas of naropa, 3 levels of empowerment ,the Bardos.
    for example Ngondro is 4 or 5 100K reps of practices, thats the basic. then there is Kalachakra which requires 10 million mantra reps. and only when you do kalachakra, can you do vajrayogini.
    if you slip in a vow of a second, you go to vajra hell (?). But really, its a super complex maze of requirements for advance, multiple requirements for a practice, mixing and doing 2 to get a new one
    Just like those PS2 digimon games where you could evolve and fuse your digimon

  11. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >>.36631908

    They always overcomplicate things.
    Dzogchen == I AM meditation
    All is One

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