How is atheism not faith based?

>science can explain everything, we just have been able to explain everything yet
why is this so?
>because naturalism exists
if naturalism is the belief only objectively provable, testable, and repeatable claims should be believed, what's the provable testable, repeatable proof for naturalism?
>Umm ummm uhh STOP QUESTIONING MY RELIGION!

Is there a real argument for believing that only the natural world exists? Or is it just atheists larping as being "logical" despite it being a faith based belief system?

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  1. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    All beliefs are faith based at the end of the day, it’s simply a matter of choosing what to put your faith in wisely.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      This.

      but to address

      https://i.imgur.com/PylccfJ.jpg

      >science can explain everything, we just have been able to explain everything yet
      why is this so?
      >because naturalism exists
      if naturalism is the belief only objectively provable, testable, and repeatable claims should be believed, what's the provable testable, repeatable proof for naturalism?
      >Umm ummm uhh STOP QUESTIONING MY RELIGION!

      Is there a real argument for believing that only the natural world exists? Or is it just atheists larping as being "logical" despite it being a faith based belief system?

      >science can explain everything, we just have been able to explain everything yet
      It can't.

      >if naturalism is the belief only objectively provable, testable, and repeatable claims should be believed, what's the provable testable, repeatable proof for naturalism?
      Again OP, I do think empirical proofs for things such as "How did the universe come to exist" are important, but all systems of belief rely on axioms, but it is important to assume as little as possible.

      If you take a belief system such as Christianity in whole as an axiom, you're taking on a lot of assumptions that can lead you to faulty conclusions, which is not to say all Christians do exactly, but most of the Christians who argue on this site sure do.

      >Is there a real argument for believing that only the natural world exists?
      I would say it's because it cannot be empirically or logically proven, it generally relies on divine revelation, which I'm skeptical of because what is divinely revealed seems to be incredibly subjective, changing from person to person and religion to religion.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        >I would say it's because it cannot be empirically or logically proven, it generally relies on divine revelation, which I'm skeptical of because what is divinely revealed seems to be incredibly subjective, changing from person to person and religion to religion.

        It's more about the possibility of there been anything defeats the entire purpose of knowing definitively there is so God. There could be a giant cat named Boingus that hides behind you specifically at all times. Of course there's no reason to believe it, even less then something like Christianity, but it's possible nonetheless. Which makes a belief system about knowing something definitively is not there extremely contrived, even more so then actual religion.

  2. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    All systems of logic start with assumptions, these are called axioma and are the foundation in which you build your beliefs. Most of our axioms are the same and the real big difference between a "logical atheist" and a "logical Christian" is that the Christian shoves God underneath the foundation of the atheists axioms and calls God the foundation. But why? It seems like a good idea to assume the world exists but God just comes out of nowhere for no reason.

  3. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >it's another "not eating is having a meal" thread
    cut internet access of all christcucks

  4. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Atheism is faith cringe.

  5. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >UMM ACTUALLY NOT BELIEVING IN THIS MAGIC MAN IS JUST ANOTHER FAITH BASED RELIGION OKAY???
    BOOOOO, get some new material chrestians.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >NnnOoooooooo you can't just believe in a deity that makes your life better in every conceivable way, you NEED to believe in SCIENCE even though it's not a belief it's TRUTH but it's not a heckin religion bro

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        you can't just believe in a deity that makes your life better in every conceivable way
        >WAIT NOT LIKE THAT

  6. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's not an assertion that there is no God, it is the demand for solid evidence that there is a supernatural God!

  7. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why do cucktian apologetics revolve around accusing atheism of being a religion?

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's an accusation and a confession at the same time

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >accusing atheism of being a religion?
      They are correct if you understand they are just using weltanschauung and religion interchangeably. Which you can argue is wrong, but its not like religion as a word has a hard universally agreed on definition.

  8. 7 months ago
    Radiochan

    lack of faith is not faith in and of itsellf

  9. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Is it faith to not believe in leprechauns?

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      yes? you have faith in their nonexistence.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        >science can explain everything, we just have been able to explain everything yet
        Strawman.

        >yes? you have faith in their nonexistence.
        False.

        Lack of faith isn't faith.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Lack of faith isn't faith.
          You believe whatever scientists tell you

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            You believe whatever a book tells you and you aren't even sure where the book came from.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            >bald is a hair color
            >not eating is a meal
            >anyone who thinks differently must have been told so by authority figures
            >but not me. my religiotardation is fully logical.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            >food allegory

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            Why don't you homosexuals ever extend this logic to other fields of expertise? I believe a baker's instructions how to cultivate yeast. I believe a mechanic can fix a transmission.
            A guy who's autistically studying the breeding cycle of snails to better make a pesticide is not a NWO satanist trying to steal my soul via microchips in vaccines because he's a dreaded LE SCIENTIST.

  10. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Atheism=/=naturalism/physicalism

  11. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's faith based on a history of a few hundred years of the fruits of science. Atheists think something happened in epistemology in the last 400 years (nothing happened) that means now officially science wins because F=ma and "imagine things evolving bro... also did you notice that all living beings are related to each other... wow...."

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      If you don’t see all living things as being literally part of the same family as a paradigm shifting fact then you haven’t thought about it enough.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        That was already the case in most creation stories, with all life usually springing from the same source and/or being hand crafted by the same deity.

  12. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    In the sense that faith is the dividing factor.
    Have faith? You are a theist.
    Lack faith? You are an atheist
    Anything more then this is homosexualry.

  13. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Billions must die over apple theft

  14. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Atheism is absolutely another religious belief, you'd have to be moronic to pretend otherwise.
    Fun fact: it is also the only unforgivable sin according to the NT.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Religions are additional beliefs and rituals tacked onto what people do and feel normally. No one claims that believing apple trees grow from apple seeds is a religion, no one claims believing in the planet Neptune is a religion, no one calls going to work or having fun with friends a religion, no one calls dating a religion.
      What they do call a religion is when you believe in gods or some magic force as a real thing you can’t prove AND you do rituals and depending on the religion, follow a moral code based on those beliefs.
      There are plenty of people who just don’t do that, they just don’t have that thing in their life.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        You're confusing science with atheism, atheism is just faith in materialism and the flawed belief that there just can't be more to reality that we haven't found out yet.
        There is a difference between not worrying about it and holding the strong baseless belief that there is no as-of-yet incomprehensible nature to the universe that is similar to a creator god, among other possibilities.

  15. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Agnosticism, deism, panentheism... are examples of beliefs that are less religious than atheism.

  16. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why do christians invoke faith when trying to discredit atheism? are they projecting?

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Atheism is the strong belief that currently-updated materialism is the final answer to the nature of reality.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        It’s literally not. Very common to be excited of future discoveries

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          >future discoveries
          Except the somehow impossible prospect of a scientifically-explainable creator god or similar entity.

  17. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    God here. I created schizos to laugh at. Hahaha.

  18. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    it is faith based, but not necessarily in scientism. it's faith based in whatever the so-called atheist values most. worship intelligence and you'll feel moronic all the time, worship strength and you'll feel like a weakling no matter your looks, etc.

  19. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Whilst it's true that new atheism makes some claims that can be criticised, this has nothing to do with whether God exists. Can you even show any argument for God's existence that hasn't been seriously internally critiqued?

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