>Gods living on top of mount olympus
Hahaha so silly. How could pagans believe in this stuff?
>talking snake, earth being 6000 years old, talking bushes, etc
It's a metaphor bro
Do Christoids even hear themselves?
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They aren't metaphors genesis is literal
Aren't people saying now that the 7 days of creation is a metaphor for evolution?
Cringe compromisers who want to fit in with society have done this since The Origin of Species was published.
True
7 days is a reference to the 7 tablets of creation, all of judeo-christian-islamist homosexualry is a shitty knockoff of based sumero-akkadian religion. All my homies pray to baal hadad
Based
No
>moving the goal posts
>
So if Jesus was god, how come people couldn't tell him apart from a common felon?
You think you can confuse God no less with a rando?
Are you moronic
>cope: the post
>>cope: the post
Which makes Christians literal morons
Most Christians (such as Roman Catholic, Eastern Orthodox, and mainline Protestant denominations) view them allegorically, not actual as historical events
Some Christian and israeli schools of thought (such as Christian fundamentalism) read these biblical passages literally, and yes, those people are total morons
I'm sorry op but your not going to get through to these bots.
Christians
>Nooo!!! ur own traditional religions are a larp!
>Larps as israelites.
In general terms, I've read more often than not, that pagan gods, generally, were mythicallized ancestor, would love a confirmation tho.
christian cope
I'm not christian tho?
Christians claimed that pagans mythicized their ancestors, mainly Wotan, hence the reason Anglo Saxons are descended from him. That wasn't the case as the sky father archetype is present in all IE religions.
But ancestor worship is based, how is that cope?
No, ancestor worship is utter moronation.
For israelite 😉
Literally no other belief makes sense. My ancestors are what made me and enabled me to have a comfy life where I can laugh at tards online, some israelite god sure didn't.
>having things good in this human lifetime is what matters
Your ancestors would beat the frick out of you for saying that.
Didn’t the whole “pagans gods where just deified mortals” belief like die 200 years ago?
No one claims this anymore
Sorry bro but there aren't any gods on Mount Olympus.
Yeah because they left, duh.
Meh. I’ve read the bible and it still comes off as more grounded and believable than other mythologies which are just capeshit.
your sungod Samson killed how many with a donkeybone?
Noooo that was an allegory!!!
God became Man and rose from the dead. Zeus didn't manifest at all.
that was an allegory.
Romulus was the incarnation of Quirinus, you illiterate christard
So if Jesus was god, how come people couldn't tell him apart from a common felon?
You think you can confuse God no less with a rando?
>There is overwhelming evidence that the ancient Greeks not only definitely climbed Mount Olympos, but that, at least in late antiquity, this was a relatively common occurrence and that people even sometimes offered sacrifices to the gods up there.
>Certainly, some people in ancient Greece did indeed believe that the gods literally lived atop Mount Olympos in ornate palaces, eating ambrosia and drinking nektar just like they are described as doing in the Homeric epics, but the ones who were actually climbing Mount Olympos evidently did not believe this. It is likely that many of them thought of Mount Olympos as more of a metaphorical home for the gods, rather than their actual, literal abode.
More shit changes, the more shit stays the same.
yeah, it is almost as if the gods being on mount olympus means that thet are above us, looking down on us and all of greece.
gigacope
I wonder if people who talk about Mt. Olympus know that there are more than 20 of those in Greece
I'm pagan, but I'm not going to a discord.
Your loss
If Christians disrespected the pantheon this much, then they would not:
>Read Homer's Oddysey
>Watch the movies about the heros fighting Medusa
>Play videogames about the Greeks and Romans myths
>Even trust people who make this stuff so greatly to vulnerably make themselves open for attack
I trusted far too many pantheon buttholes who stabbed us in the back to have some dipshit come up and make threads like this. God's vengeance be upon them.
We would NEVER even read things like Chronicles of Narnia, or Lord of the Rings. Star Wars, or even play Japanese made video games. We would just hate everything and seethe. It never happened. It time to Repent of your Returning Madness, China. In passing, that's an Alice reference.
You respected them so much you defaced their statues, murdered their priests, ended their many thousand year traditions and repurposed to honor a semitic demon. The only consolation for all this is that Christianity is undergoing the early stages of something similar now at the hands of atheistic leftists.
Nah, never known such disrespect, you aren’t even within the same American frame of thought. You need to put yourself in McDonalds And just eat the hamburgers for a while, we grew up on classical education, so that included the Greek classics some. It’s all forced of course. Extra reading about Zeus would be entirely extra curricular just for something extra to do. Or curiosity.
The people you are talking about are likely Catholics, who killed everyone, including Christians for thousands of years.
Btw that sin;t to say that we cared about your idols, but that we don’t care about your dumb pagan god statue idols. Ok? Ok.
> ‘Semitic demon’
> shows pic of Aphrodite (a literal Semitic demon)
>murdered their priests
You know I’ve actually never read an account of Christians killing pagan priests (mostly because pagan priests were not really relevant in the same way Christian priests were so they didn’t need to).
Nothing personal really. We did the same to heretical Christians. It’s just a matter of caring deeply about what you believe and seeing it as being right because it’s the truth. Post-modernists like you wouldn’t understand such a mentality since you don’t believe in universal truths.
>The only consolation for all this is that Christianity is undergoing the early stages of something similar now at the hands of atheistic leftists.
Nice to see that larpagans revel in the collapse of the west to leftism. Keep that in mind next time you compare Christians to Bolsheviks.
Literally the only actual pagan scripture we have left, the vedas, are actually monotheistic with an all encompassing godhead and some lesser deities
Abr*hamic dogs probably stole that too and stapled MUH YHWH on top of it
Stop worshipping st*ppeBlack person demons
I don't. Stop worshipping a desert demon masquerading as The One
The One isn't a God you absolute homosexual, the One is beyond human comprehension, it's not supposed to be a sky daddy with consciousness you can pray to. You might as well pray to a fricking tree, stupid christcuck convert idiot.
who said I pray to the One?
But Yahweh is just a big dicked ooga booga desert idol
Your concept of a God is so childish, so a God to you is just something you pray to for gifts? You know nothing.
better than the Judeo-christian "I'm such a piece of shit, please forgive me" perception of God.
The Gods are ungenerated ineffable essences that exercise providence on the universe and are tasked with preserving its harmony.
>something you pray to for gifts?
You don't pray to obtain gifts, but to honor the immortal Gods and build up a spiritual connection with them by entering in communion with the divine through offerings and prayers.
No pagans always expected something in return from the Gods for worshiping them (mostly material benefits).
>says the guy who needs to do mental gymnastics every time slavery, magic, contradictions, bad translations, caveman tier morality and more bollocks that came from borrowed israeli scriptures are mentioned
Yahweh is not The One. Read the Bible ffs
Vedas are monism, not monotheistic.
Fat hands typed this post.
Fat hands typed this post.
I type with my nose actually.
Anon is a israelite confirmed.
you've been seething over Christianity all week. Give it a rest.
Someone didn't want Them (the gods) constantly meddling with people in the cities, so They found them a nice high mountain for them to live on.
>Gods living on top of mount olympus
Hahaha so silly. How could pagans believe in this stuff?
>talking snake, earth being 6000 years old, talking bushes, etc
Hahaha so silly. How could christians believe in this stuff?
>we're all star farts, our existence is meaningless, spontaneous and sourceless
It's just science bro
Do Atheoids even hear themselves?
I'm really sick of it so I'll just explain it once to the people who aren't very smart.
A lot of people think the "Bible" was written by one guy in the middle ages. I assume that's what people think based on how they talk about it. See you have to understand something when you try to make fun of Adam and Eve you must understand the story of Adam and Eve is a VERY old story passed down generations. Most histories begin with the flood, Pre-flood stories are extremely rare and they are extremely weird and archaic which makes sense.
At some point humans realised they are not like other animals in fact they are very very different and the answer to this is Adam and Eve which explains in such a concise perfect way humanity. From a thing like why we wear clothes to knowing good and evil, female human pain in childbirth and working the fields, very specific things and why humans are different than animals.
Going on about your "uuhhh talking snake" I'm sorry but you've completely missed the point. You can try to explain that the snake is Satan or that humans and snakes talking before the apples represents that humans were still animals at the time that's all great but it's very strange that people miss the entire point of Adam and Eve and get caught up with a talking snake after God created the entire world.
Disgusting disgusting people denigrate humanity and all its done and its beauty like the story of Adam and Eve.
The story of genesis does not just describe humanity, but also prescribes and moralises at humanity, and that latter part is the problem. Adam and eve do not merely eat from the tree of knowledge, but they are evil for eating from the tree of knowledge. Contrast that with the tree of prometheus, where the theft of fire, the equivalent of the biblical apple, is celebrated or otherwise seen in a positive light. There are many origin stories for humanity, and even a science, anthropology, explaining why we wear clothes and so on. What the christian narrative does is shame humanity for simply exercising their freedom and pursuing knowledge. That is why it should not be treated as anything other than a historical curiosity.
>tree of prometheus
*story of prometheus
So why don’t you just worship prometheus? The other Gods were angry with his theft of fire (but of course you conveniently don’t mention that).
Because I don't worship fictional characters from tales and fables. Radical, I know.
Calm down, fedora. Don't go full reddit mode yet.
I don’t see how it’s coping when biblical allegory has been a thing since the earliest years of Christianity
https://historyforatheists.com/2021/03/the-great-myths-11-biblical-literalism/
Even Paul didn’t take genesis literally.
Christoids are spiritual Semites despite being racially European (or other). They will ALWAYS side with the Semite, their Aryan fire has been extinguished by the power of a certain semitic desert demon they call God despite the fact that he hates them.
They are worse than israelites, they are israelites in Aryan form.
Demons being evil is a Semitic concept. Indo-Europeans didn’t regard demons as evil.
The asura if you insist, dysdaimon, kakodaimon. There certainly was the concept of a destructive lesser deity.
Yahweh is an asura by class.
Nothing wrong with being a spiritual semite instead of spiritual steppe Black person gay, which so many are today. The modern non-Christian steppe Black person is an amazing site to behold though. He is certainly inferior to his past Christian ancestors in terms of manners and behaviour.
>Aryan
Why do you larp as oriental hordes that raped your ancestors?
Tell me how Yahwism is even remotely worse than
LARPing as an aryan. The Old Testament is about conceiving of the highest good you can possibly imagine and then striving for it. All this cuck has is his “pedigree” and Marvel Avengers (TM) characters to worship FOR NO GOOD REASON.
*Excellent* angle with incredible sums of implication highly concentrated into impressive concision. Blessed.
The highest good of the Old Testament is brainless submission, shame and guilt. It's no wonder that all of their neighbors though the israelites were a wretched race that hated life. Christianity is even worse. Any actual spiritual pursuit is Gnostic heresy.
>The highest good of the Old Testament is brainless submission, shame and guilt.
I can tell that you never actually reand the OT? The books of the Prophets are filled with people questioning God to his very face, and the books of Wisdom are filled with exhortations to live a joyful life.
>It's no wonder that all of their neighbors though the israelites were a wretched race that hated life.
Again, you never actually read the OT have you? The israelites were pagans (your supposed religion) for most of their history.
>Christianity is even worse. Any actual spiritual pursuit is Gnostic heresy.
HAHAHAHAHAHA, Black person the Gnostics were literally the ultimate life-denying, servile, guilt-filled religion. They counted themselves sinners for no other reason than having a body.
>he books of the Prophets are filled with people questioning God to his very face
Asking "when will you help me?" is not questioning the sovereignty of the demon. The purpose of most of the prophets was to urge the israelites to not disobey YHVH so as to avoid the calamitous prophecy. Submit or suffer. How can you twist something so simple into the opposite?
>>The israelites were pagans (your supposed religion) for most of their history
They stopped being pagan long before the criticisms of their abhorrent nature were made. They were thoroughly monotheistic by the Hellenic period. Their pagan neighbors didn't insult them for their non-existent pagan ways, irredeemable christBlack person.
>the Gnostics
Gnostics had a pursuit of spiritual reality based on experience rather than blind obedience to an obviously human text. They sought truth (decide for yourself whether they had a glimpse of it), meanwhile Christians are happy to believe obvious lies.
>Asking "when will you help me?" is not questioning the sovereignty of the demon.
That's not what Abraham did when he tried barganing over Sodom. That's not what Jeremiah did when he accused God of decieving him. That's certainly not what Job did - FFS Job literally insulted God multiple times and got declared a prophet and saint.
>They stopped being pagan long before the criticisms of their abhorrent nature were made.
1) what is the Babylonian Exile
2) 2nd temple Judaism wasn't fully repentant. The reason the Hellenes hated the israelites was because the israelites believed they were superior chosenites - which is something (contrary to pagaBlack person polemic) YHWH repeatedly chastises them for in the OT.
>Gnostics had a pursuit of spiritual reality based on experience rather than blind obedience to an obviously human text
1) the proto-Orthodox Christians informed their faith from experience, too
2) The Gnostics informed their faith through their own interpritations of said "obviously human" texts. The Gnostics quote mined Paul frequently, for instance.
>Again, you never actually read the OT have you?
Trust the lord and not your own understanding
This, lean not unto it, only Him.
>d-don't touch your dick
>Aha, this must be the highest good
>The Old Testament is about conceiving of the highest good you can possibly imagine and then striving for it.
Imagine actually believing this. Is this a joke?
Can someone explain why Americans chop up their dicks? My Uni religions professor says that’s a israeli ritual. Actually reading about all this Christianity stuff as an adult is quite baffling.
One of the brothers who created Kellogg's was obsessed with health and (his) religion and things like that, had health centers and had lots of money. Some (most?) of his ideas were insane, such as doing yogurt enemas, living as a celibate which included eating insipid food you must munch a lot to reduce libido as much as possible, weird shit with the sun, and circumcision to treat "compulsory masturbation", which is synonymous with your average fapping. Not even kidding, he did it to himself at 37 and without anaesthetics, in order to traumatize males into not touching their own dicks without remembering that one time they got diced, and there wouldn't be any reason after that as the glans would no longer feel any sensation.
He seems to have influenced a lot of people over his lifetime, when health quackery and ignorance about almost anything was rampant, summed with implementing moronic practices for basically anything.
He's a good goy
So many joomers and spiritual semites ITT, I love it!
That's a whole lot of strawman, bro.
Christians strawman 1000x more often, it's only fair.
the majority of anti-Christian arguments spammed here are strawman arguments
Yeah, nah. Pointing out contradictions and deficiencies in the line of reasoning is not a strawman.
Look at
and if you don't think that's a strawman then you're in no position to talk about strawmen.
>Most Christians for 2,000 years believed the "talking snake" was a fallen angel, not a metaphor for a fallen angel, but an actual fallen angel.
>Christians can hardly agree on how old the earth is. "6000 years" the closest thing to a non-strawman point and it only accounts for what some people believe.
>The "talking bushes", according to a basic surface-level reading of the text, is God speaking through a fire - again not a metaphor, but literally just reading the text as it is.
Christians disagree on LITERALLY everything because of the contradictions and deficiencies in how they interpret their own scripture. "Some" indeed have argued that the snake is a metaphor for whatever, keyword: some proves my point here that they're disagreeing on this specific thing.
Then you've got moronic creationists and people that deal with them telling them to not take the whole book as literally true. Same thing applies for the burning bush.
>yeah bro but ackchyually those aren't metaphors but allegories
The difference between a metaphor and an allegory is how long the text is.
modern neopaganism is pretending that we don't have a crippling lack of pre-Christian northern european texts while being really really really butthurt at Christianity
>It's a metaphor bro
Only catholicucks say that.