>Does God exist?
God = Supreme being that is omnipotent, omnipresent, omniscient and everlasting. Doesn't have to be christian God, it can be any that fits the description.
Theists, prove why he exists. Atheists prove why he doesn't or can't.
>Burden of Proof Bullshit
If your atheist and you b***h about how the BoP is on theists, go be an agnostic. Atheism is "God isn't real", thats a claim now back it up. If your a theist and you b***h about of BoP is on atheism since religion has been around forever every every single theologian will roll in there grave.
>My take
In our universe something must come from nothing.
Universe must come from somewhere outside of this universe
Universe must have come form God.
Basically slightly modified Kaplan Cosmological proof.
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No proof + obviously made-up = not real
Or else you're agnostic about a teapot behind Mars
>Russell
holy frick i hate anglos so goddamn much blood is excreting from my every orofice
>But an objection will undoubtedly be raised here: Is it possible to go beyond nature? We do not hesitate to answer plainly: Not only is it possible, but it is a fact. Again it might be said, is this not merely an assertion; what proofs thereof can be adduced? It is truly strange that proof is demanded concerning the possibility of a kind of knowledge instead of searching for it and verifying it for one’s self by undertaking the work necessary for its acquisition. For those who possess this knowledge, what interest can there be in all this discussion? Substituting a “theory of knowledge” for knowledge itself is perhaps the greatest admission of impotence in modern philosophy.
> sophistic ramblings
Was that supposed to be a refutation?
>sophistic
>shartrand russell
do anglos really
That guy you replied to is shitting the bed in a different thread
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>No proof
Except that there IS proof for an afterlife!
https://www.amazon.com/Why-Afterlife-Obviously-Exists-Realer-Than-Real/dp/1785359851/
The inference from there to a god existing is not huge, as NDErs often speak of a creator entity.
>Except that there IS proof for an afterlife!
A bunch of shitty anecdotes isn't proof.
Oh really?
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/mysteries-consciousness/202204/does-afterlife-obviously-exist
So the "shitty anecdotes" about whats in the room isnt good reason to think whats in the room is there either?
People just want a room so bad they start telling stories about the room. There is no room.
>What's clinical death
Precisely, which is why most believe aren't atheists. It is obviously made up and you need qualitative evidence to suggest that it's true.
sometimes i wonder if the fact that religion is determined by either "getting it or not", is an autism filter
God is atheist, Black folk.
>God is atheist
god is god moronic stirnerite
Satan the Creator and God the Devil are Anti-Theists
>Atheism is "God isn't real"
It also includes “I don’t believe in gods because people who believe in them don’t have proof.
I’m agnostic, which means to me with the information we have it is not possible to confirm or deny that some type of god exists.
It’s not the same as that type of atheism
>proof
see
Sophistry. If I claim i have a Ferrari and don’t present proof that I have a Ferrari, you are entirely justified and reasonable if you just don’t believe me.
a ferrari isnt a metaphysical subject you moron
and here you are seething about it
Anon do you seriously not understand the difference between a claim and evidence for the claim?
By chance, is English your second language, my shia friend?
you literally just compared metaphysics to a ferrari, you are in no position to be such a smug homosexual, maybe youre just insecure about me clearly being in the right
"metaphysics" is not just a fancy name for "made up voodoo". A good metaphysics needs to justify itself based on the actual real world.
>"metaphysics" is not just a fancy name for "made up voodoo".
wtf... are anglos even human?
>he thinks it is
Continental "philosophy"..... not even once.....
you will always be a moron
You're either too stupid to understand analogy, or too moronic to notice.
you compared metaphysics to a ferrari, nothing you will ever say or do will change this fact, you compared metaphysics to a ferrari, let this sink in, feel the shame, realize that you are not smart, and your parents were right, log off twitter, read a book, go offline.
I'm a different poster that did understood what the guy you're seething at tried to convey.
>that did understood
really showed me there
Yeah, that was intended. Good job.
>i was pretending to be a moron
how will i ever recover
God appears in physical reality and interacts with it throughout the Bible. If he was actually real it would be possible to show he exists in reality just like you would any other real thing like a Ferrari for example
oh i thought you were pretending to be moronic.
if you have to "see the ferrari" to believe in it, god having manifested in physical form in the scenario youve just given, according to your GENIUS line of reasoning, would be indisputable proof of god, you literally just made my point for me
>the proof is.... le bible
you in your own fricking scenario presupposed that the manifestation of god in the bible is true to make your point, fricking moron, do you have some kind of learning disability? youre literally so stupid i have to spoonfeed you your own posts
I'm not even that anon, you're just failing to make a coherent point. He said that in the Bible God manifests all the time yet this doesn't happen in reality, that's not presupposing the Bible as true you ESL.
btw im a different poster
and in that case it goes back to anons not-understanding of metaphysics
>Does a God/gods exist
Maybe
>Does an omniscient omnipotent all-loving God exist?
No and the concept is logically self-defeating.
>Can a good but not perfect God exist
Maybe
>In our universe something must come from nothing.
>Universe must come from somewhere outside of this universe
>Universe must have come form God.
>Basically slightly modified Kaplan Cosmological proof.
Self-refuting. If God can be uncaused then the universe can be uncaused.
>inbred bonehead still not understanding the analogy
You can't make this shit up.
I've never seen a Christian actually answer the following question, because they either run away or begin a spastic name calling fit. Here's your chance to shine, OP:
>Why is a Christian atheistic towards other deities and other religions? Why are they surprised of atheist being atheistic towards their god?
>Why is a Christian atheistic towards other deities and other religions? Why are they surprised of atheist being atheistic towards their god?
I call this one the Roman killer of Christians.
Christians do believe the other deities exist but they’re demons to them.
>Why is a Christian atheistic
>Why don't Christians believe that any gods exist
Go learn what the word "Christian" means, then go learn what the word "atheist" means, then return to the thread.
>cat individual showing up to shit yet another thread episode #203