Do Gnostics, Kabbalists, and Freemasons see the God of the Bible as the Demiurge, and see Satan/Lucifer as the real one true god?

Do Gnostics, Kabbalists, and Freemasons see the God of the Bible as the Demiurge, and see Satan/Lucifer as the real one true god?

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  1. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Kabbalists and Freemasons are not connected to Gnosticism. There is also no such thing as demiurge in the former two.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Both Kabbalists and Freemasons believe in a Devil, a god of evil, which would be the same as the Demiurge.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Kabbalists are monists, they believe everything is a part of the divine One. Gnostics, Manichaeans and Marcionites are dualists, in a way they believe the opposite of Kabbalists.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          What they teach and what they believe are two different things Depending on what level Mason or Kabbalist you are, will change your belief. What they teach the initiates, isn't the same as what they believe. It's the same in Judaism, what they teach isn't what the Rabbis believe.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            Kabbalah is judaism and masonry is just kabbalah for the goyim.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            >What they teach and what they believe are two different things Depending on what level Mason or Kabbalist you are, will change your belief
            Mathematics education works the same way.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pythagoreanism
            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentagram#Early_history

  2. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    gnostics believe that the OT god is the demiurge as he is the creator of the material world and as every good platonist knows matter=bad, and that christ came from the good god(that created the spiritual world) to liberate us from him.

    kabbalist have some autisitc saphrot thing about God's attributes being multiple and independent of each other and of God's own nature but they don't have the demiurge in their belief system.

    well what you described is probably what the masons believe in but since they are autistically a closed society we can't be sure about their believes, they can be also said to be linked to the templars but agains we can't be sure.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >they don't have the demiurge in their belief system.
      They believe in Samael, who is their version of the Devil or Demiurge.

  3. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Kabbalah believes in infinite light of Ein Soph.
    Gnosticism believes in The Monad
    Freemasons idk

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Gnosticism believes in The Monad
      Not necessarily

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        I'm a gnostic and believe on it

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Only Valentinians were monists who believed in the Monad. Sethians were dualists.

  4. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Freemasons are allowed to believe whatever they want as long as they're theists.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      And if they believe in rebuilding the temple in Jerusalem, since all their rituals are based on it.

  5. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%89liphas_L%C3%A9vi
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baphomet

  6. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    No. That's just a Oyish thing.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Gnostic cosmogony generally presents a distinction between a supreme, hidden God and a malevolent lesser divinity (sometimes associated with the biblical deity Yahweh)[1] who is responsible for creating the material universe.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        And?

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          So, it's not a Oyish thing. Gnostics do equate the God of the Bible to the lesser god of evil.

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