Did Islam create the concept of a "White race"?

Before Islam, the Mediterranean was basically it's own sphere, but after Islam Europe kind of got cut off from North Africa and the Levant and grew closer with northern Europe in identity as Christians. Meanwhile the Arabic language spread with Islam across the levant and north Africa and created a cultural continuum in MENA

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  1. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    The concept of the white race is at least as old as the Rig Veda. So it predates islam, cristianity, and even the concept of Europe.
    >white guy meets a non white guy
    >hey, I'm white, and the other guy is not
    This is all it takes for white race as a concept to emerge. It's just pattern recognition.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >The concept of the white race is at least as old as the Rig Veda.
      Fake translations you pseud.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        It predates Islam by at least a millennium but Syrians used to believe in it.

        Proof? Evidence?

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Proof? Evidence?
          Where's yours? You can't even read Sanskrit, monoglot pleb.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            I have academic consensus. 🙂

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            You have head-in-your-ass-ness

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            1. Post Sanskrit sources in Sanskrit showing concepts of whiteness and swarthiness (protip: these passages don't exist, and Indians considered dark skin good before these wimpy shitskins b***hed out)
            2. Post academics from Oxford or similar universities supporting your case

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            >whiteness and swarthiness
            More specifically whiteness against swarthiness

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            >before these wimpy shitskins b***hed out)
            from colonialism

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            There are no "swarthy" figures to my knowledge, unless you consider obsidian black to be that, which it is not.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            Ah, so your knowledge of Indian culture is from art and memes. I pity your ignorance.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            >t. zidovsky potkan

  2. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Islamic expansion definitely helped create a Christian European identity. People were aware some foreigners had brown skin back then but the vast majority of people only ever saw humans that looked like them. Unless they were in the Balkans or Iberia maybe. So I don't think they really placed much importance on race. To average European in the Middle Ages your religious affiliation or cultural identity was far more important.

  3. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Before Islam, the Mediterranean was basically it's own sphere
    Sure, but in what sense, and how is this relevant to the question?

    >after Islam Europe kind of got cut off from North Africa and the Levant
    Never completely.

    >grew closer with northern Europe in identity as Christians
    Irrelevant.

    >Meanwhile the Arabic language spread with Islam across the levant and north Africa and created a cultural continuum in MENA
    There were many other peoples that established enormous cultural continuum in MENA before the advent of Islam (e.g. Phoenicians / Carthaginians, Assyrians, and Hittites), and none of what you are saying implicates Islam as the creator of this thing we call the white race.

    In conclusion:
    >Did Islam create the concept of a "White race"?
    No.

  4. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    yes, dumbasses

    The muslims even used "white" to describe the "people of the north" and black for the people to the south. With baking analogies about how white people come out of the womb as raw dough and black people are burnt bread while the Iraqis are well done buns.

    Read Al-Muqadimmah and stop making up ridiculous ideas about how whiteness was invented in the 17th century or whatever.

    >The inhabitants of the north are not called by their color, because the people who established the conventional meanings of words were themselves white. Thus, whiteness was something usual and common (to them), and they did not see anything sufficiently remarkable in it to cause them to use it as a specific term. Therefore, the inhabitants of the north, the Turks, the Slavs, the Tughuzghuz, the Khazars, the Alans, most of the European Christians, the Gog and Magog are found to be separate nations and numerous races called by a variety of names.

    Turks confirmed white. In fact the muslims were more accurate with the term than europeans because they felt no need to exclude turks from the definition merely for being muslim.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Even Juvenal talks about whites and blacks. When did this idea that Americans/Anglos invented whiteness even come from?

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Americans invented the idea that Americans invented whiteness

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Americans think they're the center of the universe and everyone copies everything from them, like a majority of them believe Nuremberg laws were just a copy of Jim Crow. I really liked the quote from Goebbels about Americans and general Lee.

  5. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Reminder the Christians never caller the Muslim invaders brown because they knew they were similar to their iberian and Greek brothers. The muh brown and white race is a modern post-enlightenment cope.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Suyab the Roman, a companion of Muhhamad who speaks Arabic with a Greek accent is describe as a blond man with blue eyes
      >inb4 cope about he actually was an arab because you believe the story about his royal arab parentage he told everyone
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suhayb
      It is really fricking funny seeing all this race bullshit getting blown out of the water when you remove it from the western cultural context of people trying to exclude each other because they have bones to pick with each other and instead you just end up with people saying "the europeans? oh you mean those white guys"

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