>the thread from yesterday >and the day before >and the day before >and the day before >and the day before
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/filename/Kek.png%20/type/op/width/495/height/430/
stupid people are so tiresome. when you try to use figures, numbers, and graphs, it's like a dog putting on a bowtie and pretending to be a shareholder.
5 months ago
Anonymous
> Refuses to explain his moronic, obscure point > "I WON, BHAHAHA"
Total atheist defeat
Oh yeah, the Pope is an absolute heretic!
He stopped actually following the Biblical teachings a while ago. Thank you for pointing out the current corruption of the Catholic institution, which once stood defiant to liberal tendencies such as Napoleon's, and are now nothing more but puppets subverting the original teachings
Being an atheist requires believing in the magical miracle of the big bang when nothing exploded into everything for no reason and believing that magical wizard lightening shot into life goop and created entropy fighting self replicating complexity enhancing microbial life which branched into mycelium, athopods, plants, mollusks, vertibrates all for absolutely no reason because the great and mighty hero Time slayed downs syndrome and allowed entire chromosomal mutations to still successfully engage in meiosis
The Big Bang is a pseudoscientific theory to add a material veneer on the genesis myth. They’re the same story. Big Bang was first proposed by a Jesuit priest. Look it up. It’s not even a secret.
It’s catted a theory. Because theory means potentially true, but not for certain. There’s alternative theories. That’s the difference between science and dogma. I don’t know who “we” is referring to.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Ohhhh nooo!!!? I need to meditate!?!? go get boosted orange man bad!!!
*enters fugue stare*
May my love for myself and others flow freelyMay I and all living beings be safe, happy and peaceful.May all beings find happiness and the cause of happiness.May my love for myself and others flow freelyMay I and all living beings be safe, happy and peaceful.May all beings find happiness and the cause of happinessMay my love for myself and others flow freelyMay I and all living beings be safe, happy and peaceful.May all beings find happiness and the cause of happinessMay my love for myself and others flow freelyMay I and all living beings be safe, happy and peaceful.May all beings find happiness and the cause of happinessMay my love for myself and others flow freelyMay I and all living beings be safe, happy and peaceful.May all beings find happiness and the cause of happinessMay my love for myself and others flow freelyMay I and all living beings be safe, happy and peaceful.May all beings find happiness and the cause of happinessMay my love for myself and others flow freelyMay I and all living beings be safe, happy and peaceful.May all beings find happiness and the cause of happiness
5 months ago
Anonymous
You’re not helping your case. You’re coming off as petulant, irrational, and feminine. That’s why the Jesuits invented the Big Bang. So you could argue your myth without sounding like you.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Orange man bad!! palestinians must be bombed!?! israel good!! orange man make no no my pp pp small pp no big PP uh oh need more vaxx3ds!! Hamas need covid scary vaccinesss
(I'm a deist not a christian)
5 months ago
Anonymous
Sure you are.
5 months ago
Anonymous
I am basically Matt McCusker. I've read at least the basics of most religious scriptures. Haven't done sikhism yet tbh though. Hinduism is better than buddhism and it isn't close. I just find atheism embarassing.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>Hinduism is better than buddhism and it isn't close.
why? >I just find atheism embarassing.
why?
5 months ago
Anonymous
Buddhism rejects the idea of learning to embrace your shadow and is completely parasitic in nature. Monks are neet parasites who do and contribute nothing. In hinduism, when asked why we must fight and kill one another if we are all pieces of God, Krishna says, "lol. Lmao you just have to bro have fun with it"
Atheism is embarassing because of the hubris of acting like you know what the frick is going on when we can't even explain evolution let alone consciousness. It's just an act of humility to at least prostrate yourself to a god of the gaps.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>f learning to embrace your shadow
? what is that supposed to mean
>Monks are neet parasites who do and contribute nothing.
Modern social problem, has nothing to do with the religion itself, it's the same as how most christians are actively satan worshippers in day to day life.
>In hinduism, when asked why we must fight and kill one another if we are all pieces of God, Krishna says, "lol. Lmao you just have to bro have fun with it"
for what reason is this superior to buddhism? you haven't given a reason, you just restated what you think the perspectives are. I asked Why.
>Atheism is embarassing because of the hubris of acting like you know what the frick is going on
Hm? It's the opposite. Religious people assume complete knowledge of the universe and creation. Atheists are forced to look for answers through science, always changing.
I have always criticized the religious for this-- The Christian says "I know the origin of the universe, man, Earth and life. I know all things. In this way, I am God."
The religious man appoints himself God-- religion is the ultimate hubris.
I'd like you to intellectually respond to that if you can. How is always knowing the answers not hubristic, while constantly seeking them is hubristic?
5 months ago
Anonymous
>Atheists are forced to look for answers through science, always changing.
Worshiping the baconian method is moronic. It fails the moment something is immeasurable or unrepeatable. Read some joseph campbell if you want an easy intro to appreciating mythology. Try the power of myth or myths to live by. Not knowing about the concept of the jungian shadow as an adult is not forgivable. The concept is in the cracks of ethics. Essentially it is the evil you are capable of- say if your child is threatened. Could you slit the throat of the man threatening your child? If no then you are undeveloped in your "shadow". You can call it whatever but that's what people like in amoral characters in stories(as opposed to immoral).
5 months ago
Anonymous
>d. It fails the moment something is immeasurable or unrepeatable
That’s science for you. No fixed solution, only testable hypotheses. The next step is examining why an experiment failed, and continuing until the answer is measurable and repeatable. Have you made it out of junior high school?
5 months ago
Anonymous
I'm not the one who doesn't know what a jungian shadow is anon. Go read man and his symbols, it's a laymans introduction and will help you understand mythology, stories, and art in general. Sometimes I assume people know things like basic narrative structure or music theory because everybody should know them as they take 2 hours to learn.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Jung was just a philosopher. Like a thousand others. Believing in his words as indisputable dogma is faith.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Read more. Watch adam ruins everything less.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Referring to specific youtubers means you watch specific youtubers
when you guys mention these people i am always totally confused why you are bringing up things ive never heard of but are obviously youtubers
it's kind of like how i can identify your age by how much you say troony and cope.
5 months ago
Anonymous
I was going to say mythbusters but I assumed you were a zoomer since you don't read.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>you don't read
you think jung is advanced. you're 23-24. you don't have a university degree
5 months ago
Anonymous
You didn't know what the shadow is anon.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Jung isn't important in the way you think it is. You were talking about buddhism. The word shadow does not automatically evoke Jung. This was explained already.
The fact that you're attributing this much importance to Jung directly outs your pseudointellectualism. Will you continue with this fervor going forward, meeting a wall of disinterest at every turn? Have you taken a university-level philosophy or religion course? Have you attended university-level education at all?
You arrived at Jung through inceldom, correct? "Self-improvement" focus? You also read Marcus Aurelius, as you were instructed to by an image on Oyish? Tell me I am wrong. I dare you to look me in the eye, and tell me I am wrong. I am staring right at the screen anon.
5 months ago
Anonymous
No I read jung when I was learning story structure after reading the hero with a thousand faces. Swing and miss.
5 months ago
Anonymous
just like it's a swing and a miss when you try to do predictably zoomery pounce mic drop behavior after context indicating you were alluding to the word shadow in a buddhist or hindu context
people who are actually intelligent get tired of people like you. If you were you who pretend to be, you'd seek knowledge from others, not narcissistically dismiss them
5 months ago
Anonymous
Calm down and get another covid vaccine.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>I dwop the mic!
You're 23-24 years old and haven't attended university. You own anime figurines. You consider buying things like portable devices that run emulators
5 months ago
Anonymous
Lmao you actually did fall for that obvious scam didn't you? I have a ba in english and a bs in IT after the ba made me no money.
5 months ago
Anonymous
The sign of a dishonest snake arguing in bad faith is always the persistent application of myopic armchair psychology. You don't care about having a conversation you just want to bully and demoralize.
5 months ago
Anonymous
yes, i should argue in good faith, honestly, against "calm down and get another covid vaccine"
*claps for your astute and useful analysis of the situation*
5 months ago
Anonymous
Well? Go get another covid vaccine bro. The 3 you got so far need to be boosted. You can double triple stack them. There's no wrong way to use this product.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Do you think I don't know what was you posting from your phone?
Anon you're embarrassing yourself, this is why people call out your age, lack of formal education and anime figurines. Because you act like that. Remember when I told you that you were a pseudointellectual? You're proving it
How ghoulish, to accuse someone else of the need to "win" using a fake samegay post.
5 months ago
Anonymous
It's not my fault that my ip changes as I move around throughout my day. I'm shitposting at work, not home. Now go get another covid booster bro. Trust the science my man. And while you're at it keep being hilariously bombastic for no reason!
5 months ago
Anonymous
5 months ago
Anonymous
Did you factor in that you didn’t specify that it was the jungian metaphor and the fact that you implied that it was a Buddhist idea? Thus confusing the allegorical meaning of shadow completely?
5 months ago
Anonymous
I’m very familiar with Jung. He’s esoteric. I prefer Manley P Hall if I want to entertain myself with wild speculative prose.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>It fails the moment something is immeasurable or unrepeatable.
So there is nothing to say of the myriad successes of technology? All things are meaningless if they fail in any domain? This is not an intellectually developed perspective
I'm tired of this already, I didn't read the rest.
>le jungian shadow
oh, you're just repeating what Oyish/youtube told you, got it. Intellectual people appreciate context because they're well-read so "the shadow" doesn't necessarily refer to Jung, it just comes off as babble.
You are a pseudointellectual, I'm afraid.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Hinduism is the working model accepted by CERN and particle physics and astronomers today. It’s why Shiva is all over their laboratories.
5 months ago
Anonymous
people that work in those environments are implicitly irreligious. atheism is predominate among high iqs in the modern world
5 months ago
Anonymous
Agnosticism, as it requires an impartial agnostic to and answer questions. The problem with dogmatics is that they don’t understand that there is no difference between religion and philosophy outside of the associated rituals.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>*to ask and answer
5 months ago
Anonymous
>That’s the difference between science and dogma
show me a single major 'scientific' institution that calls out the medical 'science' of clotshots and trannies. science is dogma. always has been.
5 months ago
Anonymous
There aren't any scientific institutions, only capitalist ones.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>real science has never been tried
5 months ago
Anonymous
Uhh, pretty much, yeah. What we do now isn't science. We don't even record negative results. It's all a money circle jerk.
Seriously. I wanted to be a scientist when I was a kid and for my entire life really...Until now...I could tell you everything wrong with formal "science".
A true scientist is now considered a radical thinker and would have to operate outside of accepted/legal structures. We are back at the frontier.
5 months ago
Anonymous
all this is true, but the corollary of most supposedly rationalist arguments, when they try to elevate their idea of science above spiritual thinking, is that they hark towards a fictitious time of purer science and superior method. This never existed. Newton was an alchemist. Galileo was a bullshitter. Giordano Bruno wrote books on magic. They were all at the mercy of institutional vested interest. A true 'scientific' mindset has always been an outsider, yet one who requires institutional allies in order for their research to benefit society, and those allies are impossible to make except by using supra-scientific means.
5 months ago
Anonymous
I am the most stringent scientific thinker of anyone I have ever known. I am also pretty sure we are in a simulation or are a holographic projection of some higher-dimensional structure. We could literally be a thought, or a weak nuclear reaction.
I have arrived at the conclusion that it is impossible to reach these conclusions using "science".
A pure "Scientific thinker" is, hence, not a scientific thinker. They are drones. They are preventing progress.
> ok the only legitimate atheists then are racist ones
Except the only description of atheism is not believing in an existence of the divine. Nowhere does it include the obligation of being racist, homophobic, etc etc.
Besides, even if we just went by self-identification as the only requirement to be a Christian, I still win in pretty much every situation 🙂
>Except the only description of atheism is not believing in an existence of the divine.
Anon you've been defeated and you are posing a hypocritical perspective. You won't be acknowledged past this point
Your people should read books more and torture animals less. I spit on you, btw, for being part of that culture. Just for being from there. I spit on you for being an animal torturer. ptoo.
5 months ago
Anonymous
> Anon you've been defeated
Lol, LMAO > You won't be acknowledged past this point
Posting so everyone can see how much of a clown you are - which I already knew from yesterday 🙂 > No counter argument > "I WON"
It's so over atheismsisters, it never began
5 months ago
Anonymous
post equivalent of when homer simpson went "wooowoowoowoowoowoo" and went in circles on the ground by swishing his legs
5 months ago
Anonymous
> You won't be acknowledged past this point > You won't be acknowledged past this point > You won't be acknowledged past this point
HAHHAHAHHAA
5 months ago
Anonymous
>. I am also pretty sure we are in a simulation or are a holographic projection of some higher-dimensional structure.
That’s just the Platonism of Timeaus.
5 months ago
Anonymous
I know, I play Genshin Impact.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Of I ask you to describe your god right now, you’ll describe Plato’s nous, the logos spermatikos of the stoics, or the Hindu Brahman. The one thing you won’t describe is the completely anthropomorphic deity described in detail as the ancient of days in the Old Testament.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Did you know the first ever mention of YHWH was reported this year, dated accurately due to various organic material found in the cave?
It's a cave scribbling that says, "In the name of YHWH, I curse you!"
it was just one of a million desert spirits that you throw at someone who took your bronze or whatever. lol.
5 months ago
Anonymous
It was written in Aramaic. And is only visible through an X-ray. Yhvh is well documented as part of the Canaanite pantheon as the son of el and Asherah in the ugaritic texts.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>YHWH was just some homie >people turned him into their whole ass god
damn, religion is fricking crazy. You know, my best friend hardcore believes in this shit. I don't know what to do with him. He's a good man though, that's all tha tmatters.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Show him this. > Use of the term "Paleo-Hebrew alphabet" is due to a 1954 suggestion by Solomon Birnbaum, who argued that "[t]o apply the term Phoenician [from Northern Canaan, today's Lebanon] to the script of the Hebrews [from Southern Canaan, today's Israel-Palestine] is hardly suitable".[3] The Paleo-Hebrew and Phoenician alphabets are two slight regional variants of the same script.
Then show him the temple coin. It’s available everywhere. A Phoenician Tyre half shekel with the Canaanite deity Baal Melquart on it.
5 months ago
Anonymous
i'm not going to attempt to attack the faith of others, it's useful. wish i had some
5 months ago
Anonymous
No worries. Your friend shouldn’t feel like his israeli deity thinks he’s a piece of shit for being born. As long as he finds solace in it. More power to him.
Be well, I have to go.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Be safe my friend
5 months ago
Anonymous
The only place in my town that required a mask was the post office and the church. Please show me the religious institutions that were fighting the vaccine. Not randos on YouTube. The official spokespeople for an institution.
5 months ago
Anonymous
institutionalised religion is trash
admitting that it's on the same level of trash as institutionalised science does not work out very well for science. 1000s of doctors, researchers, politicians and companies immediately lose all their social power once you admit they're on the same level as a forgotten old catholic church one the corner of the street.
5 months ago
Anonymous
So you’re acquiescing to my point? No institutional religion came out against the vax. Thousands of individual scientists did come out against the vax. The Great Barrington declaration. Many of which lost their jobs because of it.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>No institutional religion came out against the vax. Thousands of individual scientists did come out against the vax >institutions >individuals
weirdly unscientific double standard you cooked up here. remember when you said 'randos on youtube' doesn't pass as evidence of resistance to dogma? Precisely the reason I was happy to zero in on institutions specifically.
sorry but as much as I like the work of Jessica Rose, Peter McCullough, JJ Coeuy and whoever, they are very much randos. They don't even have as much institutional weight as, eg. the getout clause many normies were able to exploit by claiming a religious exemption to the vax. >The official spokespeople for an institution.
what institution are ANY of the great barrington signatories the official spokespeople for, and do any of those institutions happen to be as insignificant as, say, Artur Pawvlowski's church in canada?
5 months ago
Anonymous
Sorry. Science isn’t my religion, as much as that would be convenient for your strawmanned false dialectics.
5 months ago
Anonymous
you're religious all right, that much is clear. up to you what you call it.
Every time I see that photo I frickin cringe so hard for atheists lol don't cut yourself on that edge Bro. You're in your frickin 50s doing edgelord Twitter photo shoots and expect any actually adult to take your opinions seriously. You're a frickin comedian you've never worked a real job in your life and are so far removed from having a normal life absolutely nothing in your world is real or valid. It's on par with taking political advice from one of the frickin Kardashians lol
That's the nature of the grift. You end up putting yourself in that position just for money. They're like prostitutes except they're just trying to tickle your brain, not yer pecker.
loved an idiot abroad, and i fricking loved the fact that gervais thought that us regular plebs where laughing AT carl pilkington and not with him. probably a fricking nonse as well i rate
You're right! Those images correlate with the rise of evangelical "Christianity" as the preferred mode in America. Evangelical christianity has about 5000000x the political power and visibility of atheism
>correlate with the rise of evangelical "Christianity" as the preferred mode in America
HOLY COPE BHAHAHHAHA
5 months ago
Anonymous
So why do the images correlate with atheists (fewer people, little political power) rather than evangelical christians (tens of millions of highly visible boomers, wealthy, heavy political power)?
Explain it. If you can, despite your genetic handicap.
5 months ago
Anonymous
It's really simple my friend!
Christianity in general is highly on the decline, as well as how much people actually follow the doctrine!
Since you know, one thing is to say "I am totes a Christian" and another is actually go to church, pray, believe the commandments, and so on
5 months ago
Anonymous
Do they have any true Scotsmen at your church?
5 months ago
Anonymous
Ah, the very expected misuse of the Scotsman Fallacy
You see my fellow golem, just saying you are something does not make you something! The point of the fallacy is to illustrate that when you actually fall into a certain group by virtue of your actions, being labeled as "false member" unreasonably is incorrect!
But you wouldn't know that, just like you don't know that "correlation does not equal causation" was originally used to describe a situation where no plausible rationalization for a correlation could be found, i.e. DiCaprio movies per amount of car crashes. That is, until redditors such as you started using it to dismiss ALL correlations, like a bunch of midwits you are 🙂
5 months ago
Anonymous
Okay so why arent you considering the false members of atheism that dont adhere to those stastical figures you are posting then?
checkmate
i am sorry but spanish people are stupid. 40+ million population no inventions no companies no universities
you get drunk and torture animals for fun. You are lower than us.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Name the legitimate Christians. I take them all at face value. If someone calls themselves a Christian that’s good enough for me to say they’re a Christian. You however, I’m certain, are not as inclusive in your definition.
5 months ago
Anonymous
> Name the legitimate Christians.
People who aside from the self identification (which tbh, is already a great stat. correlator of being less degenerate), go to church, pray at least occasionally, and honestly try to live by the commandments, even if not perfectly successful
5 months ago
Anonymous
ok the only legitimate atheists then are racist ones because that's where science leads a thinking man
glad you agree and that you now lost your entire basis to attack atheism, hence the argument is over and you have lost by your own words/position
arguing against spanish people is fish in a barrel honestly
If you can explain at any point why you have 46 million people and no university inside the top 150 (on any ranking, there are 3 major rankings) I would love to hear it
5 months ago
Anonymous
Based and Kenneth Anger pilled.
5 months ago
Anonymous
I dunno who that is
5 months ago
Anonymous
You’d love him. He was on Oprah in the late 80s if you want to hear his finest speech.
5 months ago
Anonymous
> ok the only legitimate atheists then are racist ones
Except the only description of atheism is not believing in an existence of the divine. Nowhere does it include the obligation of being racist, homophobic, etc etc.
Besides, even if we just went by self-identification as the only requirement to be a Christian, I still win in pretty much every situation 🙂
5 months ago
Anonymous
Btw I'm not Spanish. Tourism time. But I know you are israeli, despite your flag 🙂
5 months ago
Anonymous
So a handful of Mexican octogenarian women and their grandchildren under age 10.
5 months ago
Anonymous
> Nobody is a real christian, silly goy. Nobody goes to church, prays once a week, and believes evil is indeed evil
5 months ago
Anonymous
>and believes evil is indeed evil
Believes evil is anthropomorphic
FTFY
5 months ago
Anonymous
> I am being obtuse about semantics. I am so correct
5 months ago
Anonymous
right but those people identify as christians. they're the evangelical christians.
are you saying christians don't count as christians if they aren't good christians? well, sure, if god was watching
but we're talking about census statistics here, and they count as christians on paper, they identify as christians so they are christians.
What a thing is is the reality of that thing as well as the essence. They can't be dissimilated.
Hey, how come your people have 40+ million citizens but you don't invent anything, don't craft any biomedical or technical advances, don't have any aerospace or technology companies, and don't appear on the worldwide top university rankings, by any body, in the top 150?
Just curious what your people do. In fact, you haven't contributed any significant inventions to the world in 200 years. Can you name one?
I did not think so.
5 months ago
Anonymous
I wasn't specifically arguing in favor of evangelicals, it was just the first christian stat I pulled up from my folder.
And if you want to question Christian contribution to society in general, my hook nosed friend, I am happy to oblige 🙂
5 months ago
Anonymous
>majority of pie chart is majority of pie chart
what's it like to be spanish? does your brain automatically turn off at lunch?
5 months ago
Anonymous
>majority of pie chart is majority of pie chart
Lmao, what does that even supposed to counter? Are you low on battery? Christians are the majority of inventors, great statesmen, and just important people for the past 100 (1000) years, since that was your question
5 months ago
Anonymous
>have to explain all my points to my opponent in an argument
are you black AND spanish?
5 months ago
Anonymous
> Refuses to explain his moronic point because it had no meaning besides "Nuh uh" in the first place
Ricky Gervais: >"LOOK HOW EDGY AND COOL I AM FOR NOT BELIEVING IN GOD!"
Dude if you want to tip your fedora whatever just don't expect me to think you're cool for actually doing it. Fricking hate when these types of people pretend they're being politically offensive and breaking social norms by doing exactly what society tells them to do.
You want to truly be politically incorrect Ricky Gervais? Write the word "WHITE" on your chest in fake blood and then post it on twitter.
Not religious, but I can't help but notice how these tough edgy cuck atheists don't say a word against islam or judaism, only against the weak pathetic christians
>people don't focus on what they don't experience in their everyday life and what doesn't surround them growing up and directly contribute to their experiences
wow imagine that
youre just a frickin genius arent you bro? your people are really known for their successes and thinkers.
To deny the Abrahamic god is all inclusive. Only you don’t see that. Dismissing the Old Testament as nonsense fairytales dismissed all three derivations at once.
>outs himself as a complete midwit >by talking to a working class raised illiterate clever bald mank
It never ceases being hilarious of how hard Stephen merchant and Ricky Gervais made themselves look like closed minded midwits who fail to understand abstract concepts. All it takes is one open minded person who doesn’t back down to out morons like Ricky
Oh hey look, it's the thread from yesterday! Where is the "correlation does not equal causation" guy?
>the thread from yesterday
>and the day before
>and the day before
>and the day before
>and the day before
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/filename/Kek.png%20/type/op/width/495/height/430/
My bad, I don't live on Oyish
Yeah ok you fricking loser
*checks note* N-Black person
Pic is related to the subject, fellow White Supremacists
god forbid it's not another troony or black wiener thread you fricking homosexuals post every day.
>Where is the "correlation does not equal causation" guy?
It's that clergy boy fricker again
Not very consistent with your schedule, are you?
>people who don't believe marriage is a sacred pact don't give a shit if gays sign a legal contract and live together
Wow, amazing insight.
> Wow, amazing insight
Thanks! I'm glad you agree atheists are disgusting homosexual lovers stuck in open relationships
Boy fricking is gay (lgbt)
>evangelicals
Ehh, was talking more about christianity in general
lmao now indicate by age
Relevancy? Cute derailment cope btw
>Relevancy?
>you have to be told
LOL
stupid people are so tiresome. when you try to use figures, numbers, and graphs, it's like a dog putting on a bowtie and pretending to be a shareholder.
> Refuses to explain his moronic, obscure point
> "I WON, BHAHAHA"
Total atheist defeat
Oh yeah, the Pope is an absolute heretic!
He stopped actually following the Biblical teachings a while ago. Thank you for pointing out the current corruption of the Catholic institution, which once stood defiant to liberal tendencies such as Napoleon's, and are now nothing more but puppets subverting the original teachings
>pastors
Their's your problem
>Their's
> Pastors
Found the problem
Being an atheist requires believing in the magical miracle of the big bang when nothing exploded into everything for no reason and believing that magical wizard lightening shot into life goop and created entropy fighting self replicating complexity enhancing microbial life which branched into mycelium, athopods, plants, mollusks, vertibrates all for absolutely no reason because the great and mighty hero Time slayed downs syndrome and allowed entire chromosomal mutations to still successfully engage in meiosis
The Big Bang is a pseudoscientific theory to add a material veneer on the genesis myth. They’re the same story. Big Bang was first proposed by a Jesuit priest. Look it up. It’s not even a secret.
And we just accepted this?!? Ohh nooooo I'm getting deranged!!?!bi neeedbbuddhism?!?!
It’s catted a theory. Because theory means potentially true, but not for certain. There’s alternative theories. That’s the difference between science and dogma. I don’t know who “we” is referring to.
Ohhhh nooo!!!? I need to meditate!?!? go get boosted orange man bad!!!
*enters fugue stare*
May my love for myself and others flow freelyMay I and all living beings be safe, happy and peaceful.May all beings find happiness and the cause of happiness.May my love for myself and others flow freelyMay I and all living beings be safe, happy and peaceful.May all beings find happiness and the cause of happinessMay my love for myself and others flow freelyMay I and all living beings be safe, happy and peaceful.May all beings find happiness and the cause of happinessMay my love for myself and others flow freelyMay I and all living beings be safe, happy and peaceful.May all beings find happiness and the cause of happinessMay my love for myself and others flow freelyMay I and all living beings be safe, happy and peaceful.May all beings find happiness and the cause of happinessMay my love for myself and others flow freelyMay I and all living beings be safe, happy and peaceful.May all beings find happiness and the cause of happinessMay my love for myself and others flow freelyMay I and all living beings be safe, happy and peaceful.May all beings find happiness and the cause of happiness
You’re not helping your case. You’re coming off as petulant, irrational, and feminine. That’s why the Jesuits invented the Big Bang. So you could argue your myth without sounding like you.
Orange man bad!! palestinians must be bombed!?! israel good!! orange man make no no my pp pp small pp no big PP uh oh need more vaxx3ds!! Hamas need covid scary vaccinesss
(I'm a deist not a christian)
Sure you are.
I am basically Matt McCusker. I've read at least the basics of most religious scriptures. Haven't done sikhism yet tbh though. Hinduism is better than buddhism and it isn't close. I just find atheism embarassing.
>Hinduism is better than buddhism and it isn't close.
why?
>I just find atheism embarassing.
why?
Buddhism rejects the idea of learning to embrace your shadow and is completely parasitic in nature. Monks are neet parasites who do and contribute nothing. In hinduism, when asked why we must fight and kill one another if we are all pieces of God, Krishna says, "lol. Lmao you just have to bro have fun with it"
Atheism is embarassing because of the hubris of acting like you know what the frick is going on when we can't even explain evolution let alone consciousness. It's just an act of humility to at least prostrate yourself to a god of the gaps.
>f learning to embrace your shadow
? what is that supposed to mean
>Monks are neet parasites who do and contribute nothing.
Modern social problem, has nothing to do with the religion itself, it's the same as how most christians are actively satan worshippers in day to day life.
>In hinduism, when asked why we must fight and kill one another if we are all pieces of God, Krishna says, "lol. Lmao you just have to bro have fun with it"
for what reason is this superior to buddhism? you haven't given a reason, you just restated what you think the perspectives are. I asked Why.
>Atheism is embarassing because of the hubris of acting like you know what the frick is going on
Hm? It's the opposite. Religious people assume complete knowledge of the universe and creation. Atheists are forced to look for answers through science, always changing.
I have always criticized the religious for this-- The Christian says "I know the origin of the universe, man, Earth and life. I know all things. In this way, I am God."
The religious man appoints himself God-- religion is the ultimate hubris.
I'd like you to intellectually respond to that if you can. How is always knowing the answers not hubristic, while constantly seeking them is hubristic?
>Atheists are forced to look for answers through science, always changing.
Worshiping the baconian method is moronic. It fails the moment something is immeasurable or unrepeatable. Read some joseph campbell if you want an easy intro to appreciating mythology. Try the power of myth or myths to live by. Not knowing about the concept of the jungian shadow as an adult is not forgivable. The concept is in the cracks of ethics. Essentially it is the evil you are capable of- say if your child is threatened. Could you slit the throat of the man threatening your child? If no then you are undeveloped in your "shadow". You can call it whatever but that's what people like in amoral characters in stories(as opposed to immoral).
>d. It fails the moment something is immeasurable or unrepeatable
That’s science for you. No fixed solution, only testable hypotheses. The next step is examining why an experiment failed, and continuing until the answer is measurable and repeatable. Have you made it out of junior high school?
I'm not the one who doesn't know what a jungian shadow is anon. Go read man and his symbols, it's a laymans introduction and will help you understand mythology, stories, and art in general. Sometimes I assume people know things like basic narrative structure or music theory because everybody should know them as they take 2 hours to learn.
Jung was just a philosopher. Like a thousand others. Believing in his words as indisputable dogma is faith.
Read more. Watch adam ruins everything less.
Referring to specific youtubers means you watch specific youtubers
when you guys mention these people i am always totally confused why you are bringing up things ive never heard of but are obviously youtubers
it's kind of like how i can identify your age by how much you say troony and cope.
I was going to say mythbusters but I assumed you were a zoomer since you don't read.
>you don't read
you think jung is advanced. you're 23-24. you don't have a university degree
You didn't know what the shadow is anon.
Jung isn't important in the way you think it is. You were talking about buddhism. The word shadow does not automatically evoke Jung. This was explained already.
The fact that you're attributing this much importance to Jung directly outs your pseudointellectualism. Will you continue with this fervor going forward, meeting a wall of disinterest at every turn? Have you taken a university-level philosophy or religion course? Have you attended university-level education at all?
You arrived at Jung through inceldom, correct? "Self-improvement" focus? You also read Marcus Aurelius, as you were instructed to by an image on Oyish? Tell me I am wrong. I dare you to look me in the eye, and tell me I am wrong. I am staring right at the screen anon.
No I read jung when I was learning story structure after reading the hero with a thousand faces. Swing and miss.
just like it's a swing and a miss when you try to do predictably zoomery pounce mic drop behavior after context indicating you were alluding to the word shadow in a buddhist or hindu context
people who are actually intelligent get tired of people like you. If you were you who pretend to be, you'd seek knowledge from others, not narcissistically dismiss them
Calm down and get another covid vaccine.
>I dwop the mic!
You're 23-24 years old and haven't attended university. You own anime figurines. You consider buying things like portable devices that run emulators
Lmao you actually did fall for that obvious scam didn't you? I have a ba in english and a bs in IT after the ba made me no money.
The sign of a dishonest snake arguing in bad faith is always the persistent application of myopic armchair psychology. You don't care about having a conversation you just want to bully and demoralize.
yes, i should argue in good faith, honestly, against "calm down and get another covid vaccine"
*claps for your astute and useful analysis of the situation*
Well? Go get another covid vaccine bro. The 3 you got so far need to be boosted. You can double triple stack them. There's no wrong way to use this product.
Do you think I don't know what was you posting from your phone?
Anon you're embarrassing yourself, this is why people call out your age, lack of formal education and anime figurines. Because you act like that. Remember when I told you that you were a pseudointellectual? You're proving it
How ghoulish, to accuse someone else of the need to "win" using a fake samegay post.
It's not my fault that my ip changes as I move around throughout my day. I'm shitposting at work, not home. Now go get another covid booster bro. Trust the science my man. And while you're at it keep being hilariously bombastic for no reason!
Did you factor in that you didn’t specify that it was the jungian metaphor and the fact that you implied that it was a Buddhist idea? Thus confusing the allegorical meaning of shadow completely?
I’m very familiar with Jung. He’s esoteric. I prefer Manley P Hall if I want to entertain myself with wild speculative prose.
>It fails the moment something is immeasurable or unrepeatable.
So there is nothing to say of the myriad successes of technology? All things are meaningless if they fail in any domain? This is not an intellectually developed perspective
I'm tired of this already, I didn't read the rest.
>le jungian shadow
oh, you're just repeating what Oyish/youtube told you, got it. Intellectual people appreciate context because they're well-read so "the shadow" doesn't necessarily refer to Jung, it just comes off as babble.
You are a pseudointellectual, I'm afraid.
Hinduism is the working model accepted by CERN and particle physics and astronomers today. It’s why Shiva is all over their laboratories.
people that work in those environments are implicitly irreligious. atheism is predominate among high iqs in the modern world
Agnosticism, as it requires an impartial agnostic to and answer questions. The problem with dogmatics is that they don’t understand that there is no difference between religion and philosophy outside of the associated rituals.
>*to ask and answer
>That’s the difference between science and dogma
show me a single major 'scientific' institution that calls out the medical 'science' of clotshots and trannies. science is dogma. always has been.
There aren't any scientific institutions, only capitalist ones.
>real science has never been tried
Uhh, pretty much, yeah. What we do now isn't science. We don't even record negative results. It's all a money circle jerk.
Seriously. I wanted to be a scientist when I was a kid and for my entire life really...Until now...I could tell you everything wrong with formal "science".
A true scientist is now considered a radical thinker and would have to operate outside of accepted/legal structures. We are back at the frontier.
all this is true, but the corollary of most supposedly rationalist arguments, when they try to elevate their idea of science above spiritual thinking, is that they hark towards a fictitious time of purer science and superior method. This never existed. Newton was an alchemist. Galileo was a bullshitter. Giordano Bruno wrote books on magic. They were all at the mercy of institutional vested interest. A true 'scientific' mindset has always been an outsider, yet one who requires institutional allies in order for their research to benefit society, and those allies are impossible to make except by using supra-scientific means.
I am the most stringent scientific thinker of anyone I have ever known. I am also pretty sure we are in a simulation or are a holographic projection of some higher-dimensional structure. We could literally be a thought, or a weak nuclear reaction.
I have arrived at the conclusion that it is impossible to reach these conclusions using "science".
A pure "Scientific thinker" is, hence, not a scientific thinker. They are drones. They are preventing progress.
>Except the only description of atheism is not believing in an existence of the divine.
Anon you've been defeated and you are posing a hypocritical perspective. You won't be acknowledged past this point
Your people should read books more and torture animals less. I spit on you, btw, for being part of that culture. Just for being from there. I spit on you for being an animal torturer. ptoo.
> Anon you've been defeated
Lol, LMAO
> You won't be acknowledged past this point
Posting so everyone can see how much of a clown you are - which I already knew from yesterday 🙂
> No counter argument
> "I WON"
It's so over atheismsisters, it never began
post equivalent of when homer simpson went "wooowoowoowoowoowoo" and went in circles on the ground by swishing his legs
> You won't be acknowledged past this point
> You won't be acknowledged past this point
> You won't be acknowledged past this point
HAHHAHAHHAA
>. I am also pretty sure we are in a simulation or are a holographic projection of some higher-dimensional structure.
That’s just the Platonism of Timeaus.
I know, I play Genshin Impact.
Of I ask you to describe your god right now, you’ll describe Plato’s nous, the logos spermatikos of the stoics, or the Hindu Brahman. The one thing you won’t describe is the completely anthropomorphic deity described in detail as the ancient of days in the Old Testament.
Did you know the first ever mention of YHWH was reported this year, dated accurately due to various organic material found in the cave?
It's a cave scribbling that says, "In the name of YHWH, I curse you!"
it was just one of a million desert spirits that you throw at someone who took your bronze or whatever. lol.
It was written in Aramaic. And is only visible through an X-ray. Yhvh is well documented as part of the Canaanite pantheon as the son of el and Asherah in the ugaritic texts.
>YHWH was just some homie
>people turned him into their whole ass god
damn, religion is fricking crazy. You know, my best friend hardcore believes in this shit. I don't know what to do with him. He's a good man though, that's all tha tmatters.
Show him this.
> Use of the term "Paleo-Hebrew alphabet" is due to a 1954 suggestion by Solomon Birnbaum, who argued that "[t]o apply the term Phoenician [from Northern Canaan, today's Lebanon] to the script of the Hebrews [from Southern Canaan, today's Israel-Palestine] is hardly suitable".[3] The Paleo-Hebrew and Phoenician alphabets are two slight regional variants of the same script.
Then show him the temple coin. It’s available everywhere. A Phoenician Tyre half shekel with the Canaanite deity Baal Melquart on it.
i'm not going to attempt to attack the faith of others, it's useful. wish i had some
No worries. Your friend shouldn’t feel like his israeli deity thinks he’s a piece of shit for being born. As long as he finds solace in it. More power to him.
Be well, I have to go.
Be safe my friend
The only place in my town that required a mask was the post office and the church. Please show me the religious institutions that were fighting the vaccine. Not randos on YouTube. The official spokespeople for an institution.
institutionalised religion is trash
admitting that it's on the same level of trash as institutionalised science does not work out very well for science. 1000s of doctors, researchers, politicians and companies immediately lose all their social power once you admit they're on the same level as a forgotten old catholic church one the corner of the street.
So you’re acquiescing to my point? No institutional religion came out against the vax. Thousands of individual scientists did come out against the vax. The Great Barrington declaration. Many of which lost their jobs because of it.
>No institutional religion came out against the vax. Thousands of individual scientists did come out against the vax
>institutions
>individuals
weirdly unscientific double standard you cooked up here. remember when you said 'randos on youtube' doesn't pass as evidence of resistance to dogma? Precisely the reason I was happy to zero in on institutions specifically.
sorry but as much as I like the work of Jessica Rose, Peter McCullough, JJ Coeuy and whoever, they are very much randos. They don't even have as much institutional weight as, eg. the getout clause many normies were able to exploit by claiming a religious exemption to the vax.
>The official spokespeople for an institution.
what institution are ANY of the great barrington signatories the official spokespeople for, and do any of those institutions happen to be as insignificant as, say, Artur Pawvlowski's church in canada?
Sorry. Science isn’t my religion, as much as that would be convenient for your strawmanned false dialectics.
you're religious all right, that much is clear. up to you what you call it.
Every time I see that photo I frickin cringe so hard for atheists lol don't cut yourself on that edge Bro. You're in your frickin 50s doing edgelord Twitter photo shoots and expect any actually adult to take your opinions seriously. You're a frickin comedian you've never worked a real job in your life and are so far removed from having a normal life absolutely nothing in your world is real or valid. It's on par with taking political advice from one of the frickin Kardashians lol
That's the nature of the grift. You end up putting yourself in that position just for money. They're like prostitutes except they're just trying to tickle your brain, not yer pecker.
I've only seen him "walk round" in a poorly fitting , black v-neck t-shirt.
ricky gervais thinks hes so edgy but hes just a posh southern battyman
loved an idiot abroad, and i fricking loved the fact that gervais thought that us regular plebs where laughing AT carl pilkington and not with him. probably a fricking nonse as well i rate
as a lifelong atheist im aghast that someone would post something like this
its like a super saiyin level fedora
also as a lifelong atheist, i believe godless, rootless people are destroying society and man is too weak to survive without god presently
🙁
> NOOOOO ITS JUST A COINCIDENCE
> CORRELATION
> DOESN'T
> EQUAL
> CAUSATIUUUUUUN
You're right! Those images correlate with the rise of evangelical "Christianity" as the preferred mode in America. Evangelical christianity has about 5000000x the political power and visibility of atheism
good thing you recognized this.
>correlate with the rise of evangelical "Christianity" as the preferred mode in America
HOLY COPE BHAHAHHAHA
So why do the images correlate with atheists (fewer people, little political power) rather than evangelical christians (tens of millions of highly visible boomers, wealthy, heavy political power)?
Explain it. If you can, despite your genetic handicap.
It's really simple my friend!
Christianity in general is highly on the decline, as well as how much people actually follow the doctrine!
Since you know, one thing is to say "I am totes a Christian" and another is actually go to church, pray, believe the commandments, and so on
Do they have any true Scotsmen at your church?
Ah, the very expected misuse of the Scotsman Fallacy
You see my fellow golem, just saying you are something does not make you something! The point of the fallacy is to illustrate that when you actually fall into a certain group by virtue of your actions, being labeled as "false member" unreasonably is incorrect!
But you wouldn't know that, just like you don't know that "correlation does not equal causation" was originally used to describe a situation where no plausible rationalization for a correlation could be found, i.e. DiCaprio movies per amount of car crashes. That is, until redditors such as you started using it to dismiss ALL correlations, like a bunch of midwits you are 🙂
Okay so why arent you considering the false members of atheism that dont adhere to those stastical figures you are posting then?
checkmate
i am sorry but spanish people are stupid. 40+ million population no inventions no companies no universities
you get drunk and torture animals for fun. You are lower than us.
Name the legitimate Christians. I take them all at face value. If someone calls themselves a Christian that’s good enough for me to say they’re a Christian. You however, I’m certain, are not as inclusive in your definition.
> Name the legitimate Christians.
People who aside from the self identification (which tbh, is already a great stat. correlator of being less degenerate), go to church, pray at least occasionally, and honestly try to live by the commandments, even if not perfectly successful
ok the only legitimate atheists then are racist ones because that's where science leads a thinking man
glad you agree and that you now lost your entire basis to attack atheism, hence the argument is over and you have lost by your own words/position
arguing against spanish people is fish in a barrel honestly
If you can explain at any point why you have 46 million people and no university inside the top 150 (on any ranking, there are 3 major rankings) I would love to hear it
Based and Kenneth Anger pilled.
I dunno who that is
You’d love him. He was on Oprah in the late 80s if you want to hear his finest speech.
> ok the only legitimate atheists then are racist ones
Except the only description of atheism is not believing in an existence of the divine. Nowhere does it include the obligation of being racist, homophobic, etc etc.
Besides, even if we just went by self-identification as the only requirement to be a Christian, I still win in pretty much every situation 🙂
Btw I'm not Spanish. Tourism time. But I know you are israeli, despite your flag 🙂
So a handful of Mexican octogenarian women and their grandchildren under age 10.
> Nobody is a real christian, silly goy. Nobody goes to church, prays once a week, and believes evil is indeed evil
>and believes evil is indeed evil
Believes evil is anthropomorphic
FTFY
> I am being obtuse about semantics. I am so correct
right but those people identify as christians. they're the evangelical christians.
are you saying christians don't count as christians if they aren't good christians? well, sure, if god was watching
but we're talking about census statistics here, and they count as christians on paper, they identify as christians so they are christians.
What a thing is is the reality of that thing as well as the essence. They can't be dissimilated.
Hey, how come your people have 40+ million citizens but you don't invent anything, don't craft any biomedical or technical advances, don't have any aerospace or technology companies, and don't appear on the worldwide top university rankings, by any body, in the top 150?
Just curious what your people do. In fact, you haven't contributed any significant inventions to the world in 200 years. Can you name one?
I did not think so.
I wasn't specifically arguing in favor of evangelicals, it was just the first christian stat I pulled up from my folder.
And if you want to question Christian contribution to society in general, my hook nosed friend, I am happy to oblige 🙂
>majority of pie chart is majority of pie chart
what's it like to be spanish? does your brain automatically turn off at lunch?
>majority of pie chart is majority of pie chart
Lmao, what does that even supposed to counter? Are you low on battery? Christians are the majority of inventors, great statesmen, and just important people for the past 100 (1000) years, since that was your question
>have to explain all my points to my opponent in an argument
are you black AND spanish?
> Refuses to explain his moronic point because it had no meaning besides "Nuh uh" in the first place
Woah what a genus.
imagine being a grown adult man and still being an "atheist"
Why are shills/bots locked into shit from 10+ years ago?
Has Ricky even done anything this decade?
Captcha: AAAXD
Ricky Gervais:
>"LOOK HOW EDGY AND COOL I AM FOR NOT BELIEVING IN GOD!"
Dude if you want to tip your fedora whatever just don't expect me to think you're cool for actually doing it. Fricking hate when these types of people pretend they're being politically offensive and breaking social norms by doing exactly what society tells them to do.
You want to truly be politically incorrect Ricky Gervais? Write the word "WHITE" on your chest in fake blood and then post it on twitter.
Not religious, but I can't help but notice how these tough edgy cuck atheists don't say a word against islam or judaism, only against the weak pathetic christians
>people don't focus on what they don't experience in their everyday life and what doesn't surround them growing up and directly contribute to their experiences
wow imagine that
youre just a frickin genius arent you bro? your people are really known for their successes and thinkers.
To deny the Abrahamic god is all inclusive. Only you don’t see that. Dismissing the Old Testament as nonsense fairytales dismissed all three derivations at once.
So he falled in to the satanist pedo hollywood kek
555 is an angel number
So the fact you have memory of any of this is a total chance and it will all be forgotten just as trivially?
I mean if you believe Hawking, for instance, time is an illusion and we’re only recalling what happened as the progression of order to total entropy
Meanwhile the fastest growing demographic in the UK Prays to Mecca five times a day. That demographic doesn't have time for such foolish people.
We get it Ricky you're an atheist. Now say something about Judaism and Islam. Oh wait, you won't.
>Judaism
This documentary opened my eyes to the talmud, israelites etc.
He is unironically part of the problem. All pastors are part of the problem
>We get it, you're a car salesman
>Now tell me about oranges
? Why don't you ask him about Zoaraster too?
once again people have perspectives on what they grew up around.
on the other hand, hes bri ish, he grew up around lots of muslims...hmmm..never saw one in my life personally really
The godhead is the only thing that actually exists, and you're it too.
CHIM
>outs himself as a complete midwit
>by talking to a working class raised illiterate clever bald mank
It never ceases being hilarious of how hard Stephen merchant and Ricky Gervais made themselves look like closed minded midwits who fail to understand abstract concepts. All it takes is one open minded person who doesn’t back down to out morons like Ricky