anyway r u anti consciousness or pro consciousness rn
'frick do u think stupid homosexual'
yeah uhuh
fair.
Anyway, if any of you want personal experience from someone with plenty of ego, having to give up my desires and self was equally as disruptive to my ego as trying to accept christ, they are equally "disappointing to the ego"
I didn’t what properly? I am saying that ego exists, and I am proof.
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to my understanding, I assumed you were stating that yough went through the processes and methods buddhism outlines for erasure of ego, but these methods failed you somehow, or you failed them, resulting in your current beliefs .
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Alone in silence without thoughts in the dark theres no you, but meet someone and this you reappears differently to everyone you meet. The most "true" version of yourself changes with forgetting and aging, a illusion created around thinking past and future are real and theres a you in them fixed somewhat in spacetime
5 months ago
Anonymous
Good post, if you have more to add please do tell.
>Christiana are humble, selfless lovers
I have talked to plenty of arrogant Christians, especially online where people have no problem letting go of the virtue signalling
>The real christians aren't Christians just the people who are good and Christians >The real Buddhists aren't Buddhists it's just the people who are bad and Buddhist
What does it take to lack this much self awareness?
No go ahead and play the victim card because it's all you have.
5 months ago
Anonymous
the frick kinda crack you smoking I just said those people you've claimed have done bad aren't really Christian because there not following the Christian tenants.
5 months ago
Anonymous
I just assumed you were the same anon from above, sorry
How many Buddhist do you know? The Christian countries create most of the demonic people on this planet so I hope I don't need to tell you that you're a moron
I would reckon you've never traveled to that part of the world. People their act basically the same as the west.
Not that these people are demonic, it's more those in power who follow no religion.
Depends on if there is a God. If there is a God, then there is a self, and that self will be resurrected unto eternity. Anattā is an article of faith—an uninspiring one at that—and it’s contradicted by the Judeo-Christian witness.
>If there is a God, then there is a self
As I know the buddhist doctrine, even Brahma the creator has no real self, and his creation has no fundamental reality. It's all interdependent, illusionary phenomena. The only "real" thing is Shunyata, emptiness.
Emptiness is a terrible translation that leads to confusion. Sunyata means potentiality more than it means emptiness. There exists in sunyata the potential for that we would call a soul, but there isn't the fundamental building block of reality that is the atman in Hindu traditions.
> It's all interdependent, illusionary phenomena. The only "real" thing is Shunyata, emptiness
Only if you want to say there is no God. I believe everything is contingent on God, who is real.
The frick are you talking about? The whole point of Buddhism is that everything is false and that the ego/self must be abandoned in order to be free of suffering. Like, what are you basing this on? Are you just trying to be inflammatory? I'm trying to understand how someone can come to that conclusion.
> The whole point of Buddhism is that everything is false and that the ego/self must be abandoned in order to be free of suffering. Like, what are you basing this on?
If you pretend your ego doesn’t exist then you don’t have to deal with it becoming damaged or humiliated.
And perhaps you'll escape the cycle and float around like some force ghost Yoda for a billion years, but you'll end up right back here in the end. And you know why? Cause there's nowhere to go from that point. The eight fold path, nirvana, all that will just lead you to returning to this all over again when all of existence ceases and restarts. There is no escape, so better just learn how to live in the moment.
Christianity is a mind trap like most other doctrines. At best it'll lead you to be temporarily reborn in Yahweh's inferior heaven
Only the dharma sets you free
> Chisth or Christ?
Jesus is an ascended master that went to India and Tibet to receive his knowledge and mystical power that give him the title Son of God.
The way I understand ego is that it is the concept of YOU
Ego death is when that concept is broken, unbound by your own prism.
By my understanding I'm not really sure how Buddhism protects it.
If the self doesn’t exist then there is less to feel hurt about when life doesn’t go your way or your ego would otherwise have been bruised. Also, with the anattā doctrine, there is no moral responsibility, which is also protective of the ego. On the other hand, respecting the existence of your own selfhood leaves you vulnerable to all manner of attacks. Christ offers little consolation to the ego: you’re lesser than Him and do not necessarily deserve more than your lot in life.
>If the self doesn’t exist then there is less to feel hurt about
So it "protects" the ego the same way shooting a kid in the head "protects" them from starving.
Yes, that’s a good way of putting it. The protective effect that the nonexistence of self in Buddhism has on someone’s ego is similar to the protective effect that a starving kid gets from being shot in the head. Pretty dark when you phrase it that way.
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It is moronic to think that murder is a form of protection.
There is no protection of ego in Buddhism, as you just admitted.
5 months ago
<3 :)
Death is a cheap way to get out of suffering so it kind of works. I would never want to be part of a spirituality that could be compared to a self-inflicted gunshot.
5 months ago
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Neither Christianity nor Buddhism accepts death as an end to suffering.
5 months ago
<3 :)
Anon originally made the comparison that Buddhism "protects" the ego the same way shooting a kid in the head "protects" them from starving. I am aware that suicide in B*ddhism is a bad karma.
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Anonymous
Yeah, I made that comparison to show how stupid it is to say Buddhism protects ego. I didnt think someone would be stupid enough to consider a bullet to the head to actually be protection.
The way I understand ego is that it is the concept of YOU
Ego death is when that concept is broken, unbound by your own prism.
By my understanding I'm not really sure how Buddhism protects it.
not to defend christianity but even some elements of the tribe seem to like Islam in Europe more than Christianity.
In general they have always rejected and abhorred Christianity.
Currently cristians seem to be the most persecuted.
The only exception would be the Protestant evangelists of the US, who seem to actively collaborate with the return of the israelites to Palestine, since they believe that this accelerates the second coming of Jesus, which does not make much sense is like wanting to accelerate or dictate the times of the darling,
In addition, they do not seem to receive any recognition for it but rather seem more like useful messengers.
Beyond that, not long ago I read or saw a video, I don't remember it, of a supposed former Satanist, she noticed that the rites of satanic churches, whether they were "Atheist" or openly mysticist, always perform contrary rituals. to those of the Christian church and in particular to those of the Catholic church.
If they are Satanists, why not desacralize all religions? that is, destroying idols and images of Hinduism, Buddhism, Islam or Judaism,
They are always images of virgins, crosses and Bibles.
All the worlds religions and teachings are in the service of keeping you within the illusion. Neither Christianity nor Buddhism will take you beyond ego. You are being lied to, you are lying, you are the lie. There is no ego to go beyond. don't @me i'm going to work
' / <3 :)' what's with that I've been seeing that trio everywhere lately
I used it on Oyish
anyway r u anti consciousness or pro consciousness rn
'frick do u think stupid homosexual'
yeah uhuh
fair.
Anyway, if any of you want personal experience from someone with plenty of ego, having to give up my desires and self was equally as disruptive to my ego as trying to accept christ, they are equally "disappointing to the ego"
>Christianity is a disappointment;
>Buddhism is protective.
FTFY
Buddhism obliterates it, showing it never existed
It does though, I am proof.
I don't think you did it properly
I didn’t what properly? I am saying that ego exists, and I am proof.
to my understanding, I assumed you were stating that yough went through the processes and methods buddhism outlines for erasure of ego, but these methods failed you somehow, or you failed them, resulting in your current beliefs .
Alone in silence without thoughts in the dark theres no you, but meet someone and this you reappears differently to everyone you meet. The most "true" version of yourself changes with forgetting and aging, a illusion created around thinking past and future are real and theres a you in them fixed somewhat in spacetime
Good post, if you have more to add please do tell.
You're proof that /x/ is full of larpers, dude.
And yet Christiana are humble, selfless lovers while Buddhists are selfish entitled karma prostitutes
>Christiana are humble, selfless lovers
I have talked to plenty of arrogant Christians, especially online where people have no problem letting go of the virtue signalling
the bible has multiple warnings of idolaters who just use Christianity as a mask for their own personal gain
i.e those people are just as christen as a vegan who thinks it's fine to eat fish and chickens because they aren't smart.
>The real christians aren't Christians just the people who are good and Christians
>The real Buddhists aren't Buddhists it's just the people who are bad and Buddhist
What does it take to lack this much self awareness?
No go ahead and play the victim card because it's all you have.
the frick kinda crack you smoking I just said those people you've claimed have done bad aren't really Christian because there not following the Christian tenants.
I just assumed you were the same anon from above, sorry
How many Buddhist do you know? The Christian countries create most of the demonic people on this planet so I hope I don't need to tell you that you're a moron
Do you think Armenians are demonic? Or Eastern Europeans? The western church is obviously on a degenerate path.
I would reckon you've never traveled to that part of the world. People their act basically the same as the west.
Not that these people are demonic, it's more those in power who follow no religion.
*there
Buddhism is a force of good but it shaves the ego. It doesn’t protect it.
Dunno about "ego" but I see an awful lot of hair being shaved in Buddhism.
sure that is the correct perspective?
Can you explain your pic? How does it contradict my OP?
looks like anon is providing contrast by posting something that brings humanity together.
Depends on if there is a God. If there is a God, then there is a self, and that self will be resurrected unto eternity. Anattā is an article of faith—an uninspiring one at that—and it’s contradicted by the Judeo-Christian witness.
>If there is a God, then there is a self
As I know the buddhist doctrine, even Brahma the creator has no real self, and his creation has no fundamental reality. It's all interdependent, illusionary phenomena. The only "real" thing is Shunyata, emptiness.
Emptiness is a terrible translation that leads to confusion. Sunyata means potentiality more than it means emptiness. There exists in sunyata the potential for that we would call a soul, but there isn't the fundamental building block of reality that is the atman in Hindu traditions.
> It's all interdependent, illusionary phenomena. The only "real" thing is Shunyata, emptiness
Only if you want to say there is no God. I believe everything is contingent on God, who is real.
True, just a bundle of sensations.
ego get a frickin job
>Buddhism
is all lies and idolatry, embrace the right religion, chrisitanity and islam
The frick are you talking about? The whole point of Buddhism is that everything is false and that the ego/self must be abandoned in order to be free of suffering. Like, what are you basing this on? Are you just trying to be inflammatory? I'm trying to understand how someone can come to that conclusion.
> The whole point of Buddhism is that everything is false and that the ego/self must be abandoned in order to be free of suffering. Like, what are you basing this on?
If you pretend your ego doesn’t exist then you don’t have to deal with it becoming damaged or humiliated.
The only way to leave your "ego" behind is to have perfect morals.
overlay the truths from each culture and there will be at least 90% similarity. the tosser tossing stones is likely harm themself.
If you follow Jesus path and choose to sacrifice yourself like him for the service of all, the Ego-Death happen.
So both realize the Anatman.
And perhaps you'll escape the cycle and float around like some force ghost Yoda for a billion years, but you'll end up right back here in the end. And you know why? Cause there's nowhere to go from that point. The eight fold path, nirvana, all that will just lead you to returning to this all over again when all of existence ceases and restarts. There is no escape, so better just learn how to live in the moment.
Or you could look accept Christ!
Christianity is a mind trap like most other doctrines. At best it'll lead you to be temporarily reborn in Yahweh's inferior heaven
Only the dharma sets you free
Isn't taking refuge in Dharma about renunciation and helping others?
dharma will send you straight to hell, YHWH is the only way to salvation, your false doctrine won't last
> Chisth or Christ?
Jesus is an ascended master that went to India and Tibet to receive his knowledge and mystical power that give him the title Son of God.
Someday maybe you will abandon delusion and Semitic lies and break out of samsara
samsara is full of lies your doctrine is functional
imagine worshiping the final boss of a weeb rpg and still thinking you're the good guys lol
>Buddhism
>ego
You disappoint your parents.
Buddhism is ego. Christianity requires the death of the ego. Now take your Eastern Satanism and shove it.
That’s what I’m saying.
If the self doesn’t exist then there is less to feel hurt about when life doesn’t go your way or your ego would otherwise have been bruised. Also, with the anattā doctrine, there is no moral responsibility, which is also protective of the ego. On the other hand, respecting the existence of your own selfhood leaves you vulnerable to all manner of attacks. Christ offers little consolation to the ego: you’re lesser than Him and do not necessarily deserve more than your lot in life.
Can't argue with you but what's with the slander D:
>If the self doesn’t exist then there is less to feel hurt about
So it "protects" the ego the same way shooting a kid in the head "protects" them from starving.
Yes, that’s a good way of putting it. The protective effect that the nonexistence of self in Buddhism has on someone’s ego is similar to the protective effect that a starving kid gets from being shot in the head. Pretty dark when you phrase it that way.
It is moronic to think that murder is a form of protection.
There is no protection of ego in Buddhism, as you just admitted.
Death is a cheap way to get out of suffering so it kind of works. I would never want to be part of a spirituality that could be compared to a self-inflicted gunshot.
Neither Christianity nor Buddhism accepts death as an end to suffering.
Anon originally made the comparison that Buddhism "protects" the ego the same way shooting a kid in the head "protects" them from starving. I am aware that suicide in B*ddhism is a bad karma.
Yeah, I made that comparison to show how stupid it is to say Buddhism protects ego. I didnt think someone would be stupid enough to consider a bullet to the head to actually be protection.
The way I understand ego is that it is the concept of YOU
Ego death is when that concept is broken, unbound by your own prism.
By my understanding I'm not really sure how Buddhism protects it.
not to defend christianity but even some elements of the tribe seem to like Islam in Europe more than Christianity.
In general they have always rejected and abhorred Christianity.
Currently cristians seem to be the most persecuted.
The only exception would be the Protestant evangelists of the US, who seem to actively collaborate with the return of the israelites to Palestine, since they believe that this accelerates the second coming of Jesus, which does not make much sense is like wanting to accelerate or dictate the times of the darling,
In addition, they do not seem to receive any recognition for it but rather seem more like useful messengers.
Beyond that, not long ago I read or saw a video, I don't remember it, of a supposed former Satanist, she noticed that the rites of satanic churches, whether they were "Atheist" or openly mysticist, always perform contrary rituals. to those of the Christian church and in particular to those of the Catholic church.
If they are Satanists, why not desacralize all religions? that is, destroying idols and images of Hinduism, Buddhism, Islam or Judaism,
They are always images of virgins, crosses and Bibles.
it caught my attention
wrong
All the worlds religions and teachings are in the service of keeping you within the illusion. Neither Christianity nor Buddhism will take you beyond ego. You are being lied to, you are lying, you are the lie. There is no ego to go beyond. don't @me i'm going to work
Jesus Christ is God!