Can anyone offer an argument for the existence of God which can be convincing?

Can anyone offer an argument for the existence of God which can be convincing?

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  1. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Existence of God? No, but I think I've got a pretty convincing case on why atheism, specifically the atheist objection to the existence of God on empirical grounds is pretty inconsistent.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Why it is inconsistent

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

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        Have fun.

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          Frick, it's on Oyish in any case.
          Search for the slow boy thread.
          Have fun.

  2. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    I fart
    The motion of the fart moves the fart around
    Evidence: people can smell it
    That means the fart doesn't stay still
    Therefore god exists

  3. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    No.

  4. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Fixed.

  5. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    No. You know when you know.

  6. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yes. I can.
    If you want to be able to do the same, put the rudimentary amount of effort necessary to research the basics of this topic.
    You are welcome.

  7. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    you have to experience god to be convinced...
    there is no way of knowing the existence if something a priori...

  8. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    God is infinite and perfect, if he existed only in my mind he would not be infinite or perfect, therefore God exists.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      you need to prove your first statement has to be true for your second statement to be true

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        >you need to prove your first statement has to be true
        How about instead of being a low IQ atheist you actually discuss?

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          nice ad hominem

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            If the shoe fits, I mean, I calls them as I see them.

  9. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    People groan and roll their eyes when you mention it but the TAG argument to me seems to pretty decisively eliminate the possibility of the contrary. If you don’t accept some sort of transcendent thing, which would be a sort of God by default, you can’t really accept anything. At that point it’s just navigating a series of arguments to figure out exactly which sort of God makes sense.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      I'm pretty new to the TAG argument, so I have a few questions: Why would logic and morality necessitate a higher being? Would this argument, were it true, not be demonstrating only that the universe was created by something, rather than specifically the abrahamic God?

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

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  10. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    I think it's probably possible to make some kind of argument that there exists something that's omnipotent or omnipresent or "superior to everything else," something like what the ontological argument tries to do (but kind of fails IMO). But even if it was proved outright, the existence of such a thing doesn't imply diddly dick about what religion you should follow. The best it could do is turn an atheist into some kind of deist or pantheist, but in practice they would treat the existence of this "God" as not much more meaningful than a mathematical novelty.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      >But even if it was proved outright, the existence of such a thing doesn't imply diddly dick about what religion you should follow. The best it could do is turn an atheist into some kind of deist or pantheist
      Wrong. TAG solves this question.

      Yeah. It's actually pretty obvious once you understand the Transcendental Argument for God (called TAG for short).

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        sure Jay, I'll look into that as soon as I'm done watching your latest Tiktok cringe compilation

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          Just because Jay goofs around sometimes doesn't mean he doesn't know what he's talking about when he's being serious.

  11. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah. It's actually pretty obvious once you understand the Transcendental Argument for God (called TAG for short).

  12. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Theology is a waste of time

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      No he has it backwards.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        If God created logic, then God’s existence is not logical by definition, and all of our logical arguments are useless for trying to prove that he exists.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      How so would logic proceed god?

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        Because if logic didn’t exist, then God wouldn’t exist. God relies on logic to exist. Otherwise, then you must admit that God’s existence is beyond logic and it’s pointless to use logic to explain why he exists. Or God and logic are the same entity, in which using logic would be a circular argument (God exists because of God)

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          >God relies on logic to exist
          How do you come to this conclusion?

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            If you disagree, I already gave the alternative possibilities. If God doesn’t rely on logic, then we can’t access the explanation of his existence through logic

  13. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Okay I'll try. All matter in the universe is an interwoven mesh of connected particles in motion that is constantly interacting. Any form of divine being that is omniscient, omnipresent and omnipotent would exist in a way that defies humanities attempts to rationalise it's motives because we cannot grasp the scope of it's activities or influence. Linking the first concept to the second, Christian idea of God is that it makes up everything in the universe and that concept has survived the test of time within the religious space and modern science continues to reveal more way's that matter is connected as technology evolves to study it.

    I'm an agnostic so finding common ground with both sides has helped shape my worldview, I don't necessarily believe what I wrote above but it is as close to proof that you'll get without dying and finding out yourself.

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