the universe and programmes coded in DNA is the proof that God exists not any holy books.
Nothing about the cardiovascular system or DNA necessarily requires supernatural explanation
6 months ago
JWanon
Intelligent design
6 months ago
Anonymous
We'll be able to prove abiogenesis probably within your lifetimes. Granted, probably just in simulations and therefore you'll goalpost it, but your kids will be convinced.
6 months ago
JWanon
abiogenesis is not a thing
You don't get something from nothing
6 months ago
Anonymous
As I said, we will prove it to you within your lifetime.
RNA essentially forms naturally, so the earliest "organisms" would essentially be viruses that replicate by using freely available RNA molecules - with that as their "purpose". The rest gets built later. Ironically, reverse transcriptase probably predates transcriptase.
I am truly sad that you will not understand the proof when it is shown to you.
6 months ago
JWanon
>, we will prove it to you
No you won't
6 months ago
Anonymous
Then explain it. Explain what makes a living heart beat and what chances after death. What is keeping the body alive? What does alive even entail? What is it that makes you grow from a newborn to an adult? What makes the plants bloom? Who taught the birds to make a nest? Who teaches the bees to make honey?
6 months ago
Anonymous
God! I can believe you converted me. I am now a Muslim, wooooo!
Now frick off you dimwit inshallah
6 months ago
Anonymous
Your heart beats because of a small electrical current generated by a group of muscle cells in the walls of your heart. These cells are called the cardiac conduction system and they control the rate and rhythm of your heartbeat. The cardiac conduction system has five major components12:
- The sinoatrial node (SA node): This is the heart's natural pacemaker. It fires at regular intervals, causing the heart to beat.
- The atrioventricular node (AV node): This is the electrical relay station between the upper and lower chambers of the heart. It slows down the electrical signal slightly, allowing the ventricles to fill with blood.
- The bundle of His (also known as the atrioventricular bundle): This is a group of muscle fibers that conduct the electrical impulses that regulate the heartbeat.
- The bundle branches: These are connected to the bundle of His and lead to the lower ventricles.
- The Purkinje fibers: These are embedded in the tissue of the ventricles and conduct impulses through the heart.
The electrical signal travels from the SA node to the AV node, then to the bundle of His, the bundle branches, and the Purkinje fibers. As the signal travels, it causes the heart to contract and pump blood. You can hear the sound of the heart valves closing as the blood flows through them. The sound is "lub-DUB", where "lub" is the sound of the atrioventricular valves closing and "DUB" is the sound of the aortic and pulmonary valves closing.
The electrical activity of the heart can be measured by an electrocardiogram (EKG), which traces the movement of the electrical signals across the heart. An EKG can show if the heart is beating normally or if there are any problems with the cardiac conduction system.
6 months ago
2Joshua2
So the beating comes from the heart? From the walls? From the muscles? From the cells? Cells may control some of the heartbeat, but what made the cells? And what made the cells do what the cells do? Other cells?
Where is the beginning
Of what is made
Was there beginning
Or was it made
That in the mind of God
Actually knew what actually was
So in time reason
Knew what actually was was was
6 months ago
Anonymous
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6 months ago
Anonymous
and there are thousands of other complex systems integrated to produce that single high level process you hust described. the complexity at the molecular level is astonishing enough. there is not enough time elapsed for these things to happen purely from chance. scientists can't produce a single cell or even fold a protein in lab conditions.
6 months ago
Anonymous
>there is not enough time elapsed for these things to happen purely from chance
Unfounded >scientists can't produce a single cell or even fold a protein in lab conditions.
Irrelevant conclusion fallacy
6 months ago
Anonymous
>Irrelevant conclusion fallacy >Unfounded
are you referring to the primordial soup theory?
The late astronomer Allan Sandage once said regarding the universe:
“I find it quite improbable that such order came out of chaos. There has to be some organizing principle. God to me is a mystery, but is the explanation for the miracle of existence, why there is something instead of nothing.”
So you don't agree that every house is constructed by someone ?
It's the observer problem. In order for us to be present to observe this, the unlikely scenario in which we exist must have happened.
It would be like saying your conception proves that God ensured you would be born, since your conception was so unlikely.
Granted, we don't "know" if there are other universes or not (probably not), but the issue is the same either way.
So many words you're using are just mental concepts.
Since no one knows absolute truth, even that no one knows absolute truth, how do you know it necessarily is ordered if you don't first know everything?
You'd have to see everything, know everything, then you could say if it was certainly ordered or not.
This is where the "have faith" cope comes in.
All you can really say is that it seems like it is ordered.
Also, why do patterns mean god exists? Does it not occur to you that perhaps patterns are also just mental concepts. Without a mind there to make connections and separations, there is no difference or similarity.
Things are as connected or as disconnected as you think they are.
A lot of what you think you're seeing in the universe is just a reflection of your own mind. You should take the time to really ask you why you think what you think, where it is coming from.
We, as humans, live in an orderly universe because IT IS orderly, our species, and any other similar to humans, couldn't have survived if, for example, magnetic fields didn't exist or were weaker.
Also, I wouldn't rule out that chaotic universes exist.
Christcucks realizing that they always argue from the gnostic position of random undefined "god" because dogmatic gods are too silly for adults to take seriously
Your heart beats because of a small electrical current generated by a group of muscle cells in the walls of your heart. These cells are called the cardiac conduction system and they control the rate and rhythm of your heartbeat. The cardiac conduction system has five major components12:
- The sinoatrial node (SA node): This is the heart's natural pacemaker. It fires at regular intervals, causing the heart to beat.
- The atrioventricular node (AV node): This is the electrical relay station between the upper and lower chambers of the heart. It slows down the electrical signal slightly, allowing the ventricles to fill with blood.
- The bundle of His (also known as the atrioventricular bundle): This is a group of muscle fibers that conduct the electrical impulses that regulate the heartbeat.
- The bundle branches: These are connected to the bundle of His and lead to the lower ventricles.
- The Purkinje fibers: These are embedded in the tissue of the ventricles and conduct impulses through the heart.
The electrical signal travels from the SA node to the AV node, then to the bundle of His, the bundle branches, and the Purkinje fibers. As the signal travels, it causes the heart to contract and pump blood. You can hear the sound of the heart valves closing as the blood flows through them. The sound is "lub-DUB", where "lub" is the sound of the atrioventricular valves closing and "DUB" is the sound of the aortic and pulmonary valves closing.
The electrical activity of the heart can be measured by an electrocardiogram (EKG), which traces the movement of the electrical signals across the heart. An EKG can show if the heart is beating normally or if there are any problems with the cardiac conduction system.
How do atheists even exist ?
The existence of an orderly universe containing life proves a Creator
There is nothing about the world that necessarily requires a supernatural explanation
“Of course, every house is constructed by someone, but the one who constructed all things is God.” (Hebrews 3:4)
the universe and programmes coded in DNA is the proof that God exists not any holy books.
Damn I wonder why you didn’t pick something natural like a lake or a rock
Yeah, your heart pumps just because.... it does OK!
Nothing about the cardiovascular system or DNA necessarily requires supernatural explanation
Intelligent design
We'll be able to prove abiogenesis probably within your lifetimes. Granted, probably just in simulations and therefore you'll goalpost it, but your kids will be convinced.
abiogenesis is not a thing
You don't get something from nothing
As I said, we will prove it to you within your lifetime.
RNA essentially forms naturally, so the earliest "organisms" would essentially be viruses that replicate by using freely available RNA molecules - with that as their "purpose". The rest gets built later. Ironically, reverse transcriptase probably predates transcriptase.
I am truly sad that you will not understand the proof when it is shown to you.
>, we will prove it to you
No you won't
Then explain it. Explain what makes a living heart beat and what chances after death. What is keeping the body alive? What does alive even entail? What is it that makes you grow from a newborn to an adult? What makes the plants bloom? Who taught the birds to make a nest? Who teaches the bees to make honey?
God! I can believe you converted me. I am now a Muslim, wooooo!
Now frick off you dimwit inshallah
Your heart beats because of a small electrical current generated by a group of muscle cells in the walls of your heart. These cells are called the cardiac conduction system and they control the rate and rhythm of your heartbeat. The cardiac conduction system has five major components12:
- The sinoatrial node (SA node): This is the heart's natural pacemaker. It fires at regular intervals, causing the heart to beat.
- The atrioventricular node (AV node): This is the electrical relay station between the upper and lower chambers of the heart. It slows down the electrical signal slightly, allowing the ventricles to fill with blood.
- The bundle of His (also known as the atrioventricular bundle): This is a group of muscle fibers that conduct the electrical impulses that regulate the heartbeat.
- The bundle branches: These are connected to the bundle of His and lead to the lower ventricles.
- The Purkinje fibers: These are embedded in the tissue of the ventricles and conduct impulses through the heart.
The electrical signal travels from the SA node to the AV node, then to the bundle of His, the bundle branches, and the Purkinje fibers. As the signal travels, it causes the heart to contract and pump blood. You can hear the sound of the heart valves closing as the blood flows through them. The sound is "lub-DUB", where "lub" is the sound of the atrioventricular valves closing and "DUB" is the sound of the aortic and pulmonary valves closing.
The electrical activity of the heart can be measured by an electrocardiogram (EKG), which traces the movement of the electrical signals across the heart. An EKG can show if the heart is beating normally or if there are any problems with the cardiac conduction system.
So the beating comes from the heart? From the walls? From the muscles? From the cells? Cells may control some of the heartbeat, but what made the cells? And what made the cells do what the cells do? Other cells?
Where is the beginning
Of what is made
Was there beginning
Or was it made
That in the mind of God
Actually knew what actually was
So in time reason
Knew what actually was was was
?si=4mqgBbzKQ58nqBGz
and there are thousands of other complex systems integrated to produce that single high level process you hust described. the complexity at the molecular level is astonishing enough. there is not enough time elapsed for these things to happen purely from chance. scientists can't produce a single cell or even fold a protein in lab conditions.
>there is not enough time elapsed for these things to happen purely from chance
Unfounded
>scientists can't produce a single cell or even fold a protein in lab conditions.
Irrelevant conclusion fallacy
>Irrelevant conclusion fallacy
>Unfounded
are you referring to the primordial soup theory?
No meme arrow
The fine tuning argument is bunk considering 99% of the universe is outright hostile to life, we just live on a small island of stability.
The late astronomer Allan Sandage once said regarding the universe:
“I find it quite improbable that such order came out of chaos. There has to be some organizing principle. God to me is a mystery, but is the explanation for the miracle of existence, why there is something instead of nothing.”
So you don't agree that every house is constructed by someone ?
Conclusion doesn't follow from the premise
It does
A house is an intelligent design because someone made it
The universe is an intellgentbdesign because someone made it, that someone being God
what do houses have to do with anything
It is hostile to flesh, not spirit.
It's the observer problem. In order for us to be present to observe this, the unlikely scenario in which we exist must have happened.
It would be like saying your conception proves that God ensured you would be born, since your conception was so unlikely.
Granted, we don't "know" if there are other universes or not (probably not), but the issue is the same either way.
The bullet holes prove the planes need reinforcement on the wings
So many words you're using are just mental concepts.
Since no one knows absolute truth, even that no one knows absolute truth, how do you know it necessarily is ordered if you don't first know everything?
You'd have to see everything, know everything, then you could say if it was certainly ordered or not.
This is where the "have faith" cope comes in.
All you can really say is that it seems like it is ordered.
Also, why do patterns mean god exists? Does it not occur to you that perhaps patterns are also just mental concepts. Without a mind there to make connections and separations, there is no difference or similarity.
Things are as connected or as disconnected as you think they are.
A lot of what you think you're seeing in the universe is just a reflection of your own mind. You should take the time to really ask you why you think what you think, where it is coming from.
You're incorrect, it proves nothing.
We, as humans, live in an orderly universe because IT IS orderly, our species, and any other similar to humans, couldn't have survived if, for example, magnetic fields didn't exist or were weaker.
Also, I wouldn't rule out that chaotic universes exist.
atheists have no answer to this creature, they tremble and panic when they remember of its existence
>Here's your crocoduck, bro!
>This proof of Gerd!
Question for Christian larpers.
What does every city, town and small village include?
a) portable desert
b) one or more parks for people to be well in nature
And given b.
What religion worships nature?
a) paganism
b) do not love the world or anything in the world
Wtf is a portable desert? Meds!
Christcucks realizing that they always argue from the gnostic position of random undefined "god" because dogmatic gods are too silly for adults to take seriously
Yes, you're right, a conspicuous absence of evidence can disprove a thing which presupposes certain evidences exist.
Holy frick atheists are WAY more sensitive then christcucks will ever be
>one (1) thread shitting on atheists
>all of Oyish starts crying
So you're conceding the entire board?
Crying? Sometimes people have disagreements, kinda immature you can't accept that.
You are deaf, you discovered a way to see vibrations and now think that you know now what is sound.