>atheists now just rely on buzzwords, slurs and insults to win arguments and bank on their opponents to give in early that they actually fear said tactics
What happened to atheists championing nihilism and enlightenment values? Why can't modern atheist intellectuals replicate the same mental competence as the well known ones of the 19th century?
>What happened to atheists championing nihilism and enlightenment values?
They were affected by nihilism and enlightenment values.
>NOOOOOO!!!! YOU CAN'T JUST JECKIN' HAVE A COMPLEX AND NUANCED WORLDVIEW THAT I CAN'T SHOEHORN INTO MY HEGELIAN DIALECTERINO!!!!!1111
>proving my point and making a non argument
why are you like this?
True but still, Voltaire would look at a modern atheist and be infuriated
He would find it funny that all it takes to btfo you is a bald man looking angry actually.
Obviously. If those philosophers understood what the outcome of their ideas would be, I doubt they would teach them.
No matter what I say you'll say it proves your point because you are a pigheaded cultist.
>base argument off insults and drivel
>expect to be taken seriously
He would look at how childish you are then call you a cretin
I'm not arguing, I'm telling you to have a nice day.
Based
Even if its a shitpost or a meme a christcuck simply cant refute it without resorting to muh metaphors. Why do you think we still keep having Epicurus threads years later?
>non arguments
>continuing to willingly prove my point
It's honestly pathetic that you proclaim yourself as an intellectual yet fail at every turn to prove it. You rely solely on insults and baseless fallacies that have no logical stake in reality as your sole means of argumentation. Atheism in the 21st century is a dead religion and you are killing it.
>It's honestly pathetic that you proclaim yourself as an intellectual
Less talky, more ropey!
>still proving my point and not providing any actual argument
Astonishingly pathetic
Schizophrenic insanity is not worthy of argumentation.
No one is obligated to take the effort to engage with people who believe in Iron Age mythology. It’s truly a waste of time.
They are obligated if they enter this conversation, they have no right to provide nothing but insults and nonsense.
Your fallacy only proves how mind-numbingly abhorrent your kind is, as you and your religion have proved to be nothing but a nihilistic cult of petulant manchildren and degenerates who despise object morality under the guise of liberation of base desires and moral authority figures
shut up homosexual
>still gladly and consciously in his actions to prove my point and again provide no argument
Why is it impossible for an atheist to act in good faith since the 20th and now 21st century?
Are they just evil by nature?
>Why is it impossible for an atheist to act in good faith since the 20th and now 21st century?
Here is your answer:
why is it so difficult to admit that you're not blameless in this?
It's not a religion and you will never be a bride.
I’ve been here since the beginning of the board and Ive had no more than 5 good faith engagement conversations from Christians. Everything is sophistry or insults, usually both.
The YHWH-jak posting is no worse than the Fedora-posting. You're just upset you got the same response you give.
Fedora posting is insulting to the kind of person who posts on r/atheism. Godjak posting is offensive to Christians in general.
Have you considered not attacking everyone who disagrees with you?
I try to never attack anyone, because I don't want to be a hypocrite. I can't think of a time I've accused anyone of being a fedora tipper, so if I ever did it was years ago.
>Godjak posting is offensive to Christians in general.
>Uh, contradictions aren't actually contradictions... because...uhhh... they just aren't.
>Yes, God can do anything.... but not that... because... or that....uh.... because.... it's not INTRINSICALLY possible... yeah haha.... Wait, no they're not the same.... j-just S-SHUT UP, OK!?
Can God vacillate the squamous empathy of ulterior Tuesday shenanigans?
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Lmao
Good response. Thanks.
what's so frustrating about cs lewis is his long-windedness. Like he'll write something really long for no reason, something that can be said in a sentence and it's always either something much simpler than it appears or something completely made up.
>you actually lock yourself in hell cause you don't want god
not biblical at all, it could be true it could not be true, it just sounds good.
and the thing in the image just says "no he can't because he can't break the law of non-contradiction. the phrase is meaningless so it can't be done."
that's it he doesn't need two paragraphs to say that.
So, cope? Descartes doesn't even agree with this and is by far the smartest of the three (no appeal to moron for you).
>The YHWH-jak posting is no worse than the Fedora-posting.
It's worse, fedora posting attacked the maker of argument and that is cool and fun. Godjak posting attacks and destroys the argument itself and that is not cool and is unfun. After all, there'd be no shitposting anymore and this place would die were all bad arguments like religions dispelled.
>Christians post fedora images of atheists for a decade
>Constantly shit up Oyish making anti-neopagan and anti-Hinduism posts
>Can't deal with a few days of soijack spam
The persecution complex Christians have never ceases to amaze me.
Fedora mocked a certain kind of internet poster. The fact you are bringing it up as a comparison proves that it was accurate.
You could take a screenshot of one of those threads but instead you made an ordinary strawman meme. Why? Because those threads rely on actual quotes from the bible. Pathetic.
Christians have a lower than average IQ and the rest of them are LARPer sophists. There is no value in debating them. I’m proud of atheists and other secular guys that are just going for bullying and demoralization at this point.
I think I’ve had one single productive and interesting debate with a Christian here in the past 5 years or however long this board existed
Brother, this is Oyish. You expect intelligent conversation on Oyish?
There are some smart guys here, unfortunately the Christians need to be cleaned out for derailing good threads
The meme that destroyed e-israelitetianity
The truth is that Christians are deeply embarrassed about lots of things in the Bible, and put them out of their mind as quickly as they can. The God basedjak spam infuriates them because they literally can't read the post without being subliminally reminded that the apologetics they've memorized didn't really convince them in the first place. You will never once hear the verses the God basedjak posters are reiterating in Church.
Picking at someone's cognitive dissonance is very uncomfortable and causes them to seethe with fury and lash out.
atheist on this board are far more stupid than christoids, which is impressive in a bad way
Christians on Oyish don't even make real arguments anymore, instead they've retreated into some sort of epistemological nihilism or solipsist fantasy world where nothing can be proven or disproven and God is just some vague, impersonal Platonic monad that doesn't have any interaction with the world except you have to believe in him anyway for some reason. It's just deism or pantheism for many people yet they can't actually bring themselves to call it deism because Christianity is just a political identity for most of them.
Atheists have this really weird motte and bailey that you've illustrated quite well where if you aren't a Biblical literalist fundie then you're not a real christian, and if you've kept up with theological discourse over the past 2000 years then you must be some sort of deist. The reality is that nobody buys into stuff like holy relics of martyred Saints or weeping statues of Mary, but somehow the problem is 'bad Christians', who atheists think shouldn't be Christians in the first place.
The Bible was not written by God, you will find no Biblical scholar who believes this, everyone agrees it was written by multiple people who are simply writing down various interactions with God (the reality or falsehood of which are a different matter) and that's the end of it. Bringing up shit like "WELL WHY DID GOD CREATE PLANTS BEFORE THE SUN" is meaningless because Genesis is one of innumerable theodicies (explanations for the problem of evil) that was included in the Bible because the people that compiled the Bible liked it. They also liked the Book of Revelations, which is absolute trash. And so what? Christianity isn't bound to a fricking book.
>If I don't believe it, no one does.
This site has become so horrifically brown. You don't even have a theory of mind.
>Atheists have this really weird motte and bailey that you've illustrated quite well where if you aren't a Biblical literalist fundie then you're not a real christian
Have you considered that they're not actually arguing with you, but rather other people who you disagree with that happen to call themselves Christian? Like, if you want to be a deist or whatever and call yourself Christian fine, but at best you're just making things more confusing because you don't want to let go of the label of "Christian", and at worst you yourself are doing a motte and bailey by calling yourself someone who believes X but ACTUALLY you DON'T believe X.
More importantly, if you don't believe that Christians should believe that the world is 6,000 years old and flat because ancient rabbis said so, why are you defending people doing so and making YOU look like a dumbass by association? Shouldn't you be correcting them?
When you keep taking out things like gods commands from the bible because they offend your sense of morality and logic, at what point does your belief cease to be Christian and become a new agey spiritualism with no real dogma? I mean there's nothing wrong with loosely defined spritualism, it sure as hell is better than dogmatic organized religion. But why call yourself a Christian at that point? Just embrace the woo and your neo-pagan, wiccan and crystal healer friends.
>Atheists directly attack the israeli/Christian idea of God using real Bible verses while Christians still use the same shitty ad hominem attacks as they did a decade ago
You're right, they're not the same.
This guy prolly posted 500 fedora meme before making this post.
>Christians debate disingenuously
>Atheists debate disingenuously
>Why are Atheists so disingenuous?
You're moronic
>NOOOOO the cattle i created to torture with my twisted mindgames are starting to realize how evil I am, w-what can I do?!
>I know! I'll just call my trusty underling, whom I created along with the massive torture dimension that I let him run his massive snuff blood orgy of eternal torment and abuse, to help.
>Hey Lucifer, gather your demons that I also created, I'll be sending you some more victims I have kidnapped into my impossible mindgames!
>What, no they've not eaten shrimp this time. Now they are making fun of me for forbidding the shrimp eating and THIS WILL NOT STAND
>So do your thing Lucifer, it's what I created you to do
Can you refute the meme?
>people are countering my nonsensical LARP with nonsense
oh shit, crazy
>spend years larping and proselytizing and telling everyone that if they're not christian they're going to hell
>start shitting and pissing your pants when others don't like it and start shitposting in return
why are you like this?
Most Atheists and Christians of today are an embarrassment to their historical counterparts.
Atheists went from people who were unsatisfied with mythological explanations of the world and sought truth through scientific reasoning.
The modern Atheist just screeches.
>GOD DOES NOT EXIST, LOOOOOL!
>GOD IS DEAD (those who did not get Nietzsche)
>SKYDADDY BAD
The Christians—or at least Yeshua, I've yet to read Augustine, Aquinas or Kierkegard—taught that you should love those around you, be kind and generous, and genrally just don't be a prick.
The modern Christian just screeches
>You should not be X, THAT IS A SIN
>HOW DARE YOU GET DIVORCED!
>THIS PIECE OF MEDIA IS A SIN!
>taught that you should love those around you, be kind and generous, and genrally just don't be a prick.
Also if you eat shrimp, you'll go to hell to be tortured for eternity. Such a loving religion that just radiates with empathetic bliss.
jesus, grow up. This is teenager stuff. Show your uter lack of knowledge if you are talking about christianity
Who knew that pushing the idea of Hell and eternal torment would end up coming back to bite Christianity... There's no way you can reconcile the concept of Hell as a punishment to those who go against the word of God and the message of a loving God.
There is a way to reconcile the idea of hell with a loving god, as long as god isn't omnipotent and someone else created hell.
God is still the judge who decides who goes to hell. Even if the blood orgy rape dungeon was built by someone else, the guy who puts people there is still evil.
that has nothing to do with shellfish eating, dummy. If you knew anything about Christ you would know it's a non-factor.
The fact that our eternal omnipotent creator God has had trouble deciding should people eat shrimp or not doesn't change the fact that there's no way you can reconcile the concept of Hell as a punishment to those who go against the word of God and the message of a loving God.
lmao we are seeing Christian larpers on Oyish being absolutely destroyed in real time. for every godjak posted, one larper looses his faith or atleast shuts up about it for rest of his life because he realizes how inherently illogical and immoral it is.
Whoever created the Godjak meme had no clue how powerful it is
When did Christians clown atheists?
remember to lurk 8 years before posting
The worst you had in recent history was one sided fedora.jpg posting, which didn't trigger anyone, you just thought it was some sort of magical "I win" button to any argument. Second to that was Gervais posting who no atheists give a shit about and it was just your schizo obsession with some guy that triggered you.
you're seething
>n-no ur seething...
lmao. remind me what the OP is about again?
>What happened to atheists championing nihilism
you took your medicines and they disappeared.
Who cares about Godjak?
We have Zeusson now
Plus this is now comparative analysis... very Oyish if i say so myself or something
Atheism (the disbelievers) never win arguments. They can't reason. They try to sound smart, but I can see through them effortlessly.
>everyone who makes fun of israeli mythology is atheist