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How can the Bible be true if the Bible was written by man and not by God, unlike the Quran?
God is the Author of the Bible. (1 Thessalonians 2:13.)
The writers did not record their own thoughts. Rather, they “spoke from God as they were moved by holy spirit.” (2 Peter 1:21)
God used his holy spirit to inspire, or motivate, men to record his thoughts.—2 Timothy 3:16.
If you're interested in archaeological discoveries related to biblical events, there are ongoing excavations in the region that aim to shed light on the historical context.
If man is fallible how do you know which canon of scripture is correct?
Ultimately, it was Jehovah God who decided what books belonged in the biblical canon.
A book of Scripture belonged in the canon from the moment God inspired its writing. It was simply a matter of God’s convincing His human followers which books should be included in the Bible.
There are different canons of scripture though. Which was is correct and why? Did a human perhaps have the authority to infallibly define it?
The canon of the Hebrew Scriptures was established by the end of the fifth century B.C.E.
The skilled scribe and inspired Bible writer Ezra began the work, and it was completed by Nehemiah. (Ezra 7:6)
The writing of the Christian Greek Scriptures was completed during the time that the gifts of the spirit were operative on Christ’s followers. (John 14:26; Revelation 1:1)
Some Christians had the gift of “discernment of inspired expressions.” (1 Corinthians 12:10)
Thus, they could, without referring the matter to a supposed church council, determine which of the letters the congregation received were inspired of God. With the death of John, the last apostle, this reliable chain of divinely inspired men came to an end.
Therefore, with the book of Revelation, John’s Gospel, and his three letters, the Bible canon was closed.
The problem is that you keep referring to scripture to determine which scripture is canon. This is circular. If I find a kid's book like "Cat in the Hat" that says "This is the word of God" in it, that doesn't make it true. You would need some sort of verification not found in scripture. You also did not answer the question as to which canon is correct, I assume the JW one. Why is this one correct but not the Orthodox canon for instance?
Hebrew believers recognized God’s messengers and accepted their writings as inspired of God.
For the New Testament, the process of the recognition and collection began and ended in the first century.
For example, Paul considered Luke’s writings to be as authoritative as the Old Testament (1 Timothy 5:18; see also Deuteronomy 25:4 and Luke 10:7). Peter recognized Paul’s writings as Scripture (2 Peter 3:15-16).
So the Bible has a fixed catalog that contains 66 books, all products of God’s guiding holy spirit.
>hebrew believers recognized God’s messengers and accepted their writings as inspired of God.
Then why don't you accept the Book of Enoch as canon? It is quoted in Jude 1:14-15, so clearly its author accepted it as being inspired by God. It was also found among the Dead Sea Scrolls.
>the bible is written by God because the bible said so
holy fricking shit you're actually the meme
I remember on the book of joshua he had slain 30 or something caananite kings and tossed their bodies into a cave. Has anyone gone searching for such cave?
Why do JWs lack humanity? Anytime a JW is seen they come across as skinwalkers that pretend to be normal in order to entrap you into their pyramid scheme.
It's unfair and inaccurate to generalize an entire group of people based on religion. Individuals vary widely in their beliefs and actions. It's important to approach others with an open mind and not make assumptions about their character based on stereotypes. Engaging in dialogue and understanding diverse perspectives can lead to more meaningful connections.
More so than with any other religious text, we have assurance that the Bible is true. The combination of internal consistency, connection to evidence, and relevance to our experience makes the Bible unique among books!
Granted, like many religious works, the Bible claims to be true (2 Timothy 3:16). But unlike any other religious work, the Bible emphatically supports that assertion.
This is post was written by God
>Source?
Trust me bro, where in this post did I ever said otherwise?
This post is the word of God, you can now add to your cannon JWanon.
t. God
But I could as well say it's purely because the Bible said so to dab on the uppity atheists and there is nothing they could do about it.
For example, this anon made an attempt to refute it by supposedly using the same logic, but going by the date, it's a later "revelation" which isn't canonical in anyway to the previous revelation which is the Bible.
The Bible is the oldest revelation and so it's true over any other revelation.
Psychological manipulation. It's the same kind of tactics that ~~*marketers*~~ and ~~*lobbyists*~~ use to convince you of shit. Big man Adolf Hitler dedicated a large chunk of Mein Kampf to the art of propaganda. First they convince you they are just like you. Then they try to convince you to take positions that seem reasonable. Once they got a foot in the door, they can convince you to do other stuff. Finally, they persuade you to abandon your old lifestyle and adopt their doctrine and way of life.
Jehovah’s Witnesses preach to glorify God and to make known his name. (Hebrews 13:15)
We also want to obey Christ Jesus, who commanded: “Go, therefore, and make disciples of people of all the nations, teaching them to observe all the things I have commanded you.”—Matthew 28:19, 20.
It is important not to let circular reasoning become the justification for believing the Bible. We cannot say that one should believe the Bible simply because the Bible says it should be believed.
If, however, the truth claims of the Bible are found true whenever it is possible to test their veracity or are proved true during historical and scientific discovery, then the internal claims of the Bible’s own trustworthiness are more compelling. The internal evidence works in tandem with the external.
Thank you, you summarized the cause of my impressions perfectly. I really should read that book.
If you feel a stirring in your heart to seek God, it is because God Himself is seeking you (Luke 19:10; John 6:44). Life’s highest honor is to be pursued by the Creator of the universe and offered an invitation to become His own child.
So you're god?
No, Jehovah is the only true God. Jehovah has supreme authority, and he alone is “the Most High over all the earth.” (Psalm 83:18.)
He is “the Almighty,” which means he has the power to do whatever he chooses to do.
He “created all things”—the universe and all life on earth. (Revelation 4:8, 11) Unlike anyone else, Jehovah has always existed, and he will exist forever.—Psalm 90:2.
Proof?
Because the only guy having us search for a synagogue of the cross is you
All things that have beginnings had to have causes. The universe had a beginning; therefore, the universe had a cause.
That cause, being outside the whole universe, is God!
Frick off cultist. The Bible is enough for me.
God has always used an organized teaching method to disseminate his Truth i.e., Patriarchs, Prophets, Priests and Apostles.
The current method is the True Christian Congregation.
Paul identified this channel when he wrote that "there might be made known through the congregation the greatly diversified wisdom of God, according to the eternal purpose that he formed in connection with the Christ, Jesus our Lord." (Ephesians 3:10, 11; John 6:67,68; Hebrews 13:17)
Why should a man worship the false god of el biblio?
The Bible is the word of God proven by the internal and external consistency.
It's that simple.
This is still scripture being self-referential. By what authority do you have to trust that the scripture is accurate and that you are accurately interpreting it?
you mentioned the Hebrews recognizing God's messengers. Is this not God giving some degree of infallible authority to a human?
What man knows today as the Bible is in fact a collection of ancient divinely inspired documents. These were composed and compiled in written form over a period of 16 centuries.
All together this collection of documents forms what Jerome well described in Latin as the Bibliotheca Divina, or the Divine Library.
This library has a catalog, or official listing of publications, which is limited to those books pertaining to the scope and specialization of that library. All unauthorized books are excluded.
Jehovah God is the Great Librarian who sets the standard that determines which writings should be included.
Why specifically is the 66 book canon correct as opposed to the Catholic, Eastern Orthodox, or Oriental Orthodox canons?
Because The nation of Israel treated the Apocrypha / Deuterocanonical books with respect, but never accepted them as true books of the Hebrew Bible.
The early Christian church did not believe either that they belonged in the canon of Scripture. The New Testament quotes from the Old Testament hundreds of times, but nowhere quotes or alludes to any of the Apocryphal books.
Further, there are many proven errors and contradictions in the Apocrypha / Deuterocanonicals. Here are a few websites that demonstrate these errors:
http://www.justforcatholics.org/a109.htm
http://www.biblequery.org/Bible/BibleCanon/WhatAboutTheApocrypha.htm
https://carm.org/roman-catholicism/errors-in-the-apocrypha/
Good answer. Even Jerome himself differentiated between the canonical books and ecclesiastical books, which he did not recognize as authoritative. So I would agree on this. But if we are saying that the canon depended on the opinion of the early church we must accept that they were infallibly defined by man with the authority of God, no?
All the writing of the Christian Greek Scriptures was completed during the time that the special gifts of the spirit were operative.
Faith in the almighty God, who is the Inspirer and Preserver of his Word, makes us confident that he is the one who has guided the gathering together of its various parts.
So we confidently accept the 27 books of the Christian Greek Scriptures along with the 39 of the Hebrew Scriptures as the one Bible, by the one Author, Jehovah God.
His Word in its 66 books is our guide, and its entire harmony and balance testify to its completeness.
All praise to Jehovah God, the Creator of this incomparable book!
If God wanted one mutt race, why didn't he make us so?
A race is simply one of the partially isolated gene pools into which the human species came to be divided during and following its early geographical spread. Roughly one race has developed on each of the five major continental areas of the earth. Man did indeed diverge genetically during this phase of history and we can measure and study the results of this divergence in what remains today of the old geographical races.
Why does John claim the word ‘Gabbatha’ is a Hebrew word meaning stone pavement when it is in fact an Aramaic word meaning elevation? Is he stupid?
Gabbatha refers to a raised platform or pavement.
Which is not what John used to describe it. He uses the term Λιθόστρωτον ‘lithostroton’ containing the root lithos- stone. Something contained nowhere, not even by implication in the term Gabbatha.
Why is John ignorant of the languages spoken in the time and place he’s writing about? Was he just a massive moron? Or was he a Greek guy who had never been to the region and just stone-ignorant?
Λιθόστρωτον can be translated as Gabbatha in certain contexts.
No, it cannot. Lithostroton is a compound word with a super literal formation of stone-covered. Gabbatha comes from g-v-t meaning something raised up. It is simply and completely wrong. What I want to know is why John made such a basic and completely obvious error. And you’re dodging, not answering.
>God treats everyone on the same basis, no matter what race
Sure, but why should we do the same? We are humans, not God. We have obligations to our family first and then to the stranger -- so much for treating all humans on the same basis.