America wasn't founded under Christian values, it was founded under Masonic values.

America wasn't founded under Christian values, it was founded under Masonic values.

Enlightenment ideals about the innate individuate liberty of all men isn't a Christian concept, it's a Luciferian one. I'm so sick of Christians making the argument that America was once built upon their beliefs. Was never the case for the political elite.

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  1. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    moron.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yes, mormons are also quite invluential non-christian group that contributed in shaping USA

  2. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    The American Enlightenment and revolution was inspired by a sense of Rugged Individualism and a dislike for government.

  3. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Enlightenment Philosophy and Protestant Christianity go hand-in-hand, though

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Protestant Christianity

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        Are you saying it doesn't? I mean the founding tenant of Individual Liberty is directly tied to the "Priesthood of All Believers" concept. And the idea of Sola Scriptura is connected to the Enlightenment philosophy of rational thinking and reasoning.

        Protestantism and the Enlightenment are intertwined.

  4. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    What i found reading about the founding fathers is that the US was founded under enlightenment values and non fundamentalist Christian values. A lot of the founding fathers seem to move away from the fundamentalist of their time.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Founders would consider fundies today too liberal

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        Depends on some things yes on other things no.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        Fundamentalists in IFB churches are even worse than Puritans were, at least Puritans drank occasionally and thought that both the man and wife should enjoy marriage. (Hence the liberal divorce laws in New England)

  5. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Freemasonry today is basically just a networking club for rich old pedophiles.

  6. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    >The British Empire was mason
    >becomes a global hegemon
    >America wasn't founded under Christian values, it was founded under Masonic values.
    >becomes a global hegemon
    >Russia was a backwater empire for most of it's history and it peaked as a global power when it was atheist
    >Meanwhile South American nations founded under Catholicism are still third world nations
    really makes you think

  7. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    The Founding of America was a return to Classical greatness.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      The Apotheosis of Washington perfectly expresses the Masonic / LHP undercurrent throughout the Founding Father's written journals/legislation. To think America was once a "Christian" nation is absurd.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      The founders, excepting the real libtards like Jefferson, generally saw America as a Christian nation and that it was a good thing, but they also wanted to deprive the nation of a Christian government for their own interests. They weren't "our guys," but they were closer to our guys than whatever abomination atheists have built today.

      Classical decadence.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        No, most of the founders were secret atheists and knew that America would eventually drop Christianity over time. That's why they baked in separation of church and state, but publicly kept America a christian nation, they knew future generations would change interpretations.

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          The USSR is more your thing troony

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            Cope more moron.

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          There seemed to be two different kinds of deism. "Soft" deism where you think most rituals and traditions are invented by humans but Christianity is probably the closest to the truth and should be respected. (People like Franklin and Jefferson seem to fall in this camp.) And then there's "hard" deism like Thomas Paine, Ethan Allen and many French revolutionaries who believe the universe is purely materialistic but just created by a distant, abstract creator God that doesn't really interact with humanity. Hard deists would mostly all be atheists or agnostics nowadays.

  8. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    I think that enlightenment ideals about the innate individuate liberty of all men is a pretty cool concept.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      For the founders liberty just meant the right of white men to pursue personal profit, that's it. The modern definition (do literally anything no matter how depraved) owes a debt to this childish worldview but is ultimately quite distinct from it.

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