Why woudlnt An omnipotent God be able to see the future without violating free will? He is literaly above logic

Why woudlnt An omnipotent God be able to see the future without violating free will?
He is literaly above logic

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  1. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    The answer to this, and every other damning question is
    >shut up athiest

  2. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    do NOT ask christians if there's free will in heaven (a place where no one sins and everything is perfect)

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >do NOT ask christians if there's free will in heaven
      Do not ask Protestants this question. Orthobros and some Catholics understand that there is free will in heaven, but we are made free from all sin and distress.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Humans get free will from le apple, according to the torah, angels have some degree of free will as well, since they are able to question god's orders and judge the best course of actions to accomplish tasks. So this would imply free will does exist in the after life.

      God doesn't see the future, imo, otherwise the whole entirety of existence is pointless. I think he just knows us so well, that he knows what we are "probably" going to do.

      I am not Christian, I study all Abrahamic faiths, and I pray to Saint Michael.

      >Why woudlnt An omnipotent God be able to see the future without violating free will?
      Not religious myself but an easy resolution to that question is God knowing all possibilities/outcomes but we have the agency to choose

      Why are you posing a question to open theists? They hardly exist! But the answer is because he can have a prophet announce what you're going to eat for breakfast tomorrow.

      I could get angry that 90% of the posts are directed at me, but instead I am going to read more scriptures, and smoke some weed. Probably going to finish beating cyberpunk 2077 even though I know how it ends, because nobody would make a pointless game, where you can't win. First you have to prove to me there is no free will, and that god can see the future. One of you has cited multiple time-lines which is string "theory", can you prove the multiverse exists?

      Seems like a bunch of you are mad at god for some reason, don't worry, you can let him know what you think when you die, a miserable, meaning-less death.

      Ta ta.

      Friendly reminder that there is not a single passage in the entire Bible that affirms the doctrine of free will.

  3. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >He is literaly above logic
    So he makes no sense? Seems about right

  4. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Theists can't answer stuff like this. Just give up on them.

  5. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Knowing what humans will do doesn't contradict allowing humans to have and use their free will. But it does affect the level of responsibility they ensuingly have, so it puts standard views of the afterlife into question.

  6. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Humans get free will from le apple, according to the torah, angels have some degree of free will as well, since they are able to question god's orders and judge the best course of actions to accomplish tasks. So this would imply free will does exist in the after life.

    God doesn't see the future, imo, otherwise the whole entirety of existence is pointless. I think he just knows us so well, that he knows what we are "probably" going to do.

    I am not Christian, I study all Abrahamic faiths, and I pray to Saint Michael.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >God doesn't see the future, imo, otherwise the whole entirety of existence is pointless.
      If he's omnipotent, he knows the contents of all times. It doesn't automatically make all existence pointless.

      You fricking dense moron.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        >this is your abrahamism on platonic mindrot

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          Demonstrate from multiple angles and with multiple proofs that omnipotence automatically makes existence pointless

          It's not as simple as your midwit mind thinks

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Dude run a simulation
        >But we already know the answer lol cuz god
        >Lol dude run it anyway because I am bored and have already seen it 1 million times
        >Ok whatever you say god

        This is your logic. You know that some people die getting hit by a bus, or some of us die while taking a shit on a toilet, do you think god planned all that? Or do you think the person not looking both ways, and not eating fibre caused that?

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          *tips fedora*

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          >This is your logic. You know that some people die getting hit by a bus, or some of us die while taking a shit on a toilet, do you think god planned all that? Or do you think the person not looking both ways, and not eating fibre caused that?

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          *tips fedora*

          >This is your logic. You know that some people die getting hit by a bus, or some of us die while taking a shit on a toilet, do you think god planned all that? Or do you think the person not looking both ways, and not eating fibre caused that?

          youre a moronic skeptic and the anons mocking you as a nu atheist are right. even atheist philosophers get past this hurdle and know the questions much bigger than your narrow emotive response.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            >youre a moronic skeptic and the anons mocking you as a nu atheist are right. even atheist philosophers get past this hurdle and know the questions much bigger than your narrow emotive response.

  7. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Why woudlnt An omnipotent God be able to see the future without violating free will?
    Not religious myself but an easy resolution to that question is God knowing all possibilities/outcomes but we have the agency to choose

  8. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    I don't understand how God knowing the future violates free will.
    >it means the future is already determined
    From God's perspective there is no future, nor present, nor past. Everything has happened and is happening simultaneously. So, though from God's perspective all things have been decided, they are all simultaneously being decided.

  9. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why are you posing a question to open theists? They hardly exist! But the answer is because he can have a prophet announce what you're going to eat for breakfast tomorrow.

  10. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yes

  11. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    I could get angry that 90% of the posts are directed at me, but instead I am going to read more scriptures, and smoke some weed. Probably going to finish beating cyberpunk 2077 even though I know how it ends, because nobody would make a pointless game, where you can't win. First you have to prove to me there is no free will, and that god can see the future. One of you has cited multiple time-lines which is string "theory", can you prove the multiverse exists?

    Seems like a bunch of you are mad at god for some reason, don't worry, you can let him know what you think when you die, a miserable, meaning-less death.

    Ta ta.

  12. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    If God exists outside of time he would know everything that would happen and there would also be free will

  13. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Free will?

  14. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Logic is based on objective truth. Only God is objective Truth. Therefore logic is based on the nature of God and it is unchanging because the nature of God is unchanging.

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