why monotheism? what makes it more convincing than polytheism? what are the arguments for it?

why monotheism? what makes it more convincing than polytheism? what are the arguments for it?

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  1. 8 months ago
    JWanon

    Since God is a completely perfect being, there cannot be a second God, for they would have to differ in some way, and to differ from complete perfection is to be less than perfect and not be God.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      >God is a completely perfect being
      Then why does he drown innocent babies?

      • 8 months ago
        JWanon

        When

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          flood

          • 8 months ago
            JWanon

            Where does it mention babies

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            >there were no babies 4000 years ago
            Getting this desperate?

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        Babies aren't innocent either. We're all sinners and deserve hellfire.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      >God is a completely perfect being
      how do you know this

      • 8 months ago
        JWanon

        Or else he wouldn't be God

        >there were no babies 4000 years ago
        Getting this desperate?

        Noah didn't have children until he was 500 years old.

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          So?

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Or else he wouldn't be God
          Why does your definition of God include being perfect?

          • 8 months ago
            JWanon

            Because God is by definition perfect

            So?

            There is no proof there were babies

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Because God is by definition perfect
            I'm asking where did you get that definition from

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            Were there no babies in the world when noah was alive?
            How about the egyptuan children he killed with moses?

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            what does “perfect” mean in this context, what are the qualities of a god being “perfect” and why does ia alleged perfection limited to one being

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            >God is perfect because is he wasn't perfect he wouldn't be god
            >The bible is true because it is the I fallible holy word of God
            Question begging.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      The universe debunks this as four forces cause everything at the macroscopic level

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        Actually it's one force with 5 specific permutations
        >

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        Actually it's one force with 5 specific permutations
        >

        the 4 fundamental forces are not the only cause of things according modern physics, they are only the ways energy transition between the many different field that compose reality, like the electron field and and the quarks fields, and don't even participate in things like the interaction with the higgs field

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      >can't coexist with others of his kind
      Ergo the israeli tribal deity is not perfect.

      >ry polytheism has an omnicreator that is higher than the gods
      So why are the lower gods necessary then? Why not cut down the middleman and just keep the Creator?

      >necessary
      You don't get to decide that.

      Actually it's one force with 5 specific permutations
      >

      There's no indication that the Fundamental Forces are actually unified, but even if they were the ontology still has three things that exist: spacetime, fundamental particles, and forces.

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        >>can't coexist with others of his kind
        There are no others of his kind though.
        >You don't get to decide that.
        I'm just asking the question, why are they necessary?

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          >There are no others of his kind though.
          That's incorrect, both observably and by looking at the israelites only holy texts.

          >I'm just asking the question, why are they necessary?
          Things don't exist because they're "necessary", they exist because they do. But, if you want an actual argument, I can provide four from three separate traditions.

          From Shinto: A God is a being that is perfect, a perfect being can coexist with others of its own kind, all beings desire to be with others of their kind, ergo a God would make more Gods so that they wouldn't be lonely.

          Platonism: Being emanates from The One in order to introduce multiplicity. The One is too full of being so it spills out; this spilling out results in multiplicity because The One cannot, say, both be red and blue, it has to be in an indeterminate state. Thus, blueness and redness "shine" out of it, resulting in a blue entity and a red entity. Each of these, however, is too full of Being, so cyan, teal, and turquoise emanate out of blue, and orange, pink, and crimson emanate out of red, and purple is formed where they intersect. Repeat as needed.

          Aristotle: Things must be traced back to a cause, not all things can be traced back to the same cause because some things are clearly different (a "good salad" and a "good rape" do not refer to the same "good", ergo there must be at least two separate "good"s). All things trace back to a God, of which there must be multiple.

          From Buddhism: Gods are beings that accumulate good karma until they are reborn in a certain state. There are many beings, ergo there must be many Gods. If two "ur-Gods" are born, they will inevitably shack up and breed, resulting in more Gods.

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            >That's incorrect, both observably and by looking at the israelites only holy texts.
            Observably the universe seems to be created by a singular being.
            >Things don't exist because they're "necessary"
            Oh boy wait until you hear about the contingency argument and the necessary being.
            >: A God is a being that is perfect, a perfect being can coexist with others of its own kind,
            Why?
            > all beings desire to be with others of their kind,
            Citation needed.
            >ergo a God would make more Gods so that they wouldn't be lonely.
            If God is perfect, why would he feel lonely? Doesn't that imply a lack of something, therefore not being perfect?

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Observably the universe seems to be created by a singular being.
            Every chair was made by a single craftsman, that doesn't mean that the craftsman doesn't have a family.

            >Oh boy wait until you hear about the contingency argument and the necessary being.
            The fact that you can concoct word salad means nothing, and you agree with me because you do not believe that every argument is correct by virtue of it having been made.

            >Why?
            Argument from Contingency and from Necessary Being.

            >Citation needed.
            That would be the Kojiki and the Nihon Shoki. Empirically, however, literally every organism on Earth seeks more of its own kind in some manner at some point in its life.

            >If God is perfect, why would he feel lonely? Doesn't that imply a lack of something, therefore not being perfect?
            A perfect being wouldn't lack anything, which means that they must have everything that they could want. All beings want company, and for a God to not lack company means that it must have company, ergo there must be multiple Gods. Presumably this would mean that if you killed every God except one (somehow) then the remaining God would just poof in more or uplift some humans or something.

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            >All beings want company
            Source?

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            See

            >Observably the universe seems to be created by a singular being.
            Every chair was made by a single craftsman, that doesn't mean that the craftsman doesn't have a family.

            >Oh boy wait until you hear about the contingency argument and the necessary being.
            The fact that you can concoct word salad means nothing, and you agree with me because you do not believe that every argument is correct by virtue of it having been made.

            >Why?
            Argument from Contingency and from Necessary Being.

            >Citation needed.
            That would be the Kojiki and the Nihon Shoki. Empirically, however, literally every organism on Earth seeks more of its own kind in some manner at some point in its life.

            >If God is perfect, why would he feel lonely? Doesn't that imply a lack of something, therefore not being perfect?
            A perfect being wouldn't lack anything, which means that they must have everything that they could want. All beings want company, and for a God to not lack company means that it must have company, ergo there must be multiple Gods. Presumably this would mean that if you killed every God except one (somehow) then the remaining God would just poof in more or uplift some humans or something.

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            >the source is me just saying it right now, because i said so
            very cool, get aids and die queer

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            He literally cited two books and a fact about biology in the first post you dweeb.

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            he answered you two lines above that one dude

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Every chair was made by a single craftsman,
            Bad analogy..
            >Argument from Contingency and from Necessary Being.
            Lol
            needed.
            Empirically, however, literally every organism on Earth-
            But God is obviously not from Earth.
            >A perfect being wouldn't lack anything, which means that they must have everything that they could want.
            Right, so it wouldn't feel the need to have more of itself.
            >All beings want company,
            Not necessarily, no. A if God is perfect then definitely no.

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Bad analogy..
            I accept your concession.

            >But God is obviously not from Earth.
            If we cannot use evidence from Earth(by which we really mean "the realm that humans inhabit") to understand the divine then we cannot use "the universe seems to be created by a single being" as evidence for a single deity., and indeed the entire debate is moot because we can't know ANYTHING about the divine AT ALL.

            >Right, so it wouldn't feel the need to have more of itself.
            A perfect being would lack nothing, not want nothing. If the divine didn't want anything then it wouldn't have made the universe or interact with us in any way. Just because it WANTS stuff doesn't mean that it has to LACK stuff.

            >Not necessarily, no.
            No, by necessity. All beings want company, by definition, and a perfect being lacks (but does not want) nothing.

            Also, I initially used Shinto sources because I said that this was a "Shinto argument", but I could just as well have used the israeli scriptures as Yahweh creates choirs of angels to keep himself company. Even Muslims believe that Allah created Muhammad, the Quran, and if you're a Shiite, Ali, as coeternal deities to keep himself company, and THEN created the angels. Christians believe that the divine is actually three beings (three persons in hypostatic union), Yahweh, Ruach Hakodesh, and Yeshua Bar Yosef, and orthodox Christians reject voluntarism which means that they believe that the divine MUST be three and not any lesser or greater number of persons.

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            >If we cannot use evidence from Earth(by which we really mean "the realm that humans inhabit") to understand the divine then we cannot use "the universe seems to be created by a single being" as evidence for a single deity.,
            Why not? An alien can look at the universe and arrive at the same conclusion.
            > Just because it WANTS stuff doesn't mean that it has to LACK stuff.
            So it's not perfect.
            >All beings want company, by definition,
            No? Are you okay anon? Do you want friends or something?
            >Also, I initially used Shinto sources because I said that this was a "Shinto argument",
            More like a Shit argument amirite?
            >but I could just as well have used the israeli scriptures as Yahweh creates choirs of angels to keep himself company.
            Where does it say that God created those specifically for the purpose of keeping himself company?
            >Even Muslims believe that Allah created Muhammad, the Quran, and if you're a Shiite, Ali, as coeternal deities to keep himself company, and THEN created the angels.
            I haven't read the Quran so idk about this.
            >Christians believe that the divine is actually three beings (three persons in hypostatic union), Yahweh, Ruach Hakodesh, and Yeshua Bar Yosef, and orthodox Christians reject voluntarism which means that they believe that the divine MUST be three and not any lesser or greater number of persons.
            Right, but not because God wants company, it's not like God was one first and then made two more of himself, you know very well that's heresy. Christianity claims that the Godhead is three for no other reason than just because, not because the Father was lonely and wanted company.

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            >>Also, I initially used Shinto sources because I said that this was a "Shinto argument",
            >More like a Shit argument amirite?
            nippons haven't been rekt this hard since Hiroshima and Nagasaki LMAO

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            >An alien can look at the universe and arrive at the same conclusion.
            An alien would still be from the same realm that we inhabit.

            >So it's not perfect.
            No, it is. A perfect being lacks nothing. Perfect beings can still want things, because you can want something while not lacking it. I want my parents to be happy even when they are happy. I don't lack my parents being happy, and yet I want it.

            >No?
            Yes, according to the texts cited.

            >Do you want friends or something?
            Yes, I have them. I want them, even though I do not lack them. See?

            >Where does it say that God created those specifically for the purpose of keeping himself company?
            The Torah doesn't say why Yahweh made angels, just that he made them the way he wants them to be. We can only infer from the fact that he has a massive choir singing "qadesh" around him at all times that he wants a massive choir singing "qadesh" around him at all times. We can quibble about whether this is over "loneliness" or not, but he clearly wants to not be alone.

            >Christianity claims that the Godhead is three for no other reason than just because
            The Godhead is beyond spacetime, as are the Gods of a polytheistic pantheon, so you could just as well say "the number of Olympians is 2,047,923 just because", and there'd be no beginning or point of origin because they've just always been (I'm going to ignore the "can you add or subtract from the Trinity" debate because all of it is of questionable orthodoxy).

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            >I haven't read the Quran so idk about this.
            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quranic_createdness
            tl;dr there was a big debate over what Muslims were supposed to believe about the status of the Quran. Muhammad says that he was the first being ever created (literally the first thing that Allah made, even before the universe), and that the Quran is coeternal with Allah as it is uncreated. There was a debate over whether this was insane and stupid or not, and the rationalist faction lost (for political and military reasons, not philosophically). Today, the vast majority of Sunnis believe that Muhammad and the Quran are coequal eternal beings with Allah.

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            >From Shinto: A God is a being that is perfect, a perfect being can coexist with others of its own kind, all beings desire to be with others of their kind, ergo a God would make more Gods so that they wouldn't be lonely.
            That sounds like angels. From what I understand, it is generally believed that humans were made because God wanted a relationship with things that had the choice to rather than because they were crafted for that specific purpose.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      >monotheism is true because my definition of god says so
      Literal “black people can’t be racist because my definition of racism prohibits it” tier logic

  2. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    I don't, it isn't, there aren't any. Praise Apollo

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Apollo is nothing compared to SOL INVICTUS

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        I was almost molested by a bearded man when i was a bald faced prepube boy, Apollo defintely protected me there.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Based

      https://i.imgur.com/NUj64ag.jpg

      why monotheism? what makes it more convincing than polytheism? what are the arguments for it?

      ~~*monotheism*~~ was a central banking scam to usurp the authority of the local city gods and god kings who combined to judiciously and fairly regulate the media of exchange for the benifit of the peoples. Pic related reveals this info.

  3. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    The biggest reason is they're too human. It's like if there were a bunch of powerful wizards hiding out screwing with humans using their magic powers. God in monotheistic religions is an unmoved mover who made everything.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      >The biggest reason is they're too human.
      But I don't understand why this is a flaw of polytheism though. I'd wager that if anything it should be a strength, the gods being human and relatable makes them much more appealing than some creepy abstract Prime Mover without wants or desires.

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        >But I don't understand why this is a flaw of polytheism though. I'd wager that if anything it should be a strength, the gods being human and relatable makes them much more appealing than some creepy abstract Prime Mover without wants or desires.
        Because it also makes them fallible, and that's unappealing.

        Every polytheism has an omnicreator that is higher than the gods and the omnicreator logically doesnt give a shit about humanity meanwhile moontheist morons think an omnicreator would care about talking monkeys in one galaxy cluster

        >Every polytheism has an omnicreator that is higher than the gods and the omnicreator logically doesnt give a shit about humanity meanwhile moontheist morons think an omnicreator would care about talking monkeys in one galaxy cluster
        God straight up tells Abraham he is El, who was the overgod in Mesopotamian myths. And why shouldn't an omnicreator care about humans? Such a being would have to capacity to observe, keep in mind, and care about everything if they so chose to without it necessarily costing them anything.

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          At least them being fallible is a solid answer to the problem of evil. Monotheists on the other hand have to keep wondering endlessly why suffering exists. At least the polytheistic question makes sense.

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            The problem of evil has been refuted definitively and satisfactorily. Bringing it up indicates a severe case of midwitism.

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            The basedblem of evil is because Christian dumbasses think Elohim is a nice guy when hes more of an amoral schizo. The stupid religion also has this dumb good vs evil narrative going on.

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            >suffering is actually god punishing us with sin
            Cool what lesson are we supposed to learn with god giving babies cancer

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            >he thinks god literally comes down out of heaven to poke children with the cancer stick
            it's really funny how atheists argue exactly like determinist muslims, absolute and total denial of free will, everything that has ever happened or ever will happen is because Allah manually does it himself

            he answered you two lines above that one dude

            >literally every organism on Earth seeks more of its own kind in some manner at some point in its life.
            For some reason, I don't quite see how this forms an apt analogy with the concept of a transcendent uncreated creator god

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          Because you religious dumbass caring about something is primitive animal behavior, something smart enough to think the laws of planck physics into existence would be so psyhologically different from humans its pointless even thinking it would capable of primitive nonsense like love or hate or envy or jealousy. The real God is probably completely emotionless and does things in a way thats impossible for our emotion centered monkey brains to process.

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            >God has to be an lovecraftian being beyond human understanding because.........HE JUST HAS TO OK?????

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Every polytheism has an omnicreator that is higher than the gods and the omnicreator logically doesnt give a shit about humanity meanwhile moontheist morons think an omnicreator would care about talking monkeys in one galaxy cluster

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        >ry polytheism has an omnicreator that is higher than the gods
        So why are the lower gods necessary then? Why not cut down the middleman and just keep the Creator?

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          Why the frick would the maker of existence care about you? The maker of existence in Greek polytheism Chaos doesnt even care about the Primordials let alone the fricking gods or humans.

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Why the frick would the maker of existence care about you?
            Why wouldn't he? Didn't he create me? Does a parent have a child and then not care about it?

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            To what value are you really? You are like a drawing on a piece of paper trying to get the attention of the human in a higher domain creating the landscape around you. It is futile and the human can erase you or leave you there for decades at his whim. That is the omnicreator as well. Why did he make anything? We dont know so shut p.

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            Idk that's a shitty anaolgy
            If you want to say there is a creator then he would be more like the author of a story. As the author are you going to magically kake everyone happy? No. Suffering is more entertaining. If God exists he has zero incentive to change anything or do anything.

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            Thats too simple minded, Im saying the entire universe is like a drawing the omnicreator made because they wanted to, the only thing of significance is the universe not the infinitesimal talking monkeys in it.

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            >To what value are you really? You are like a drawing on a piece of paper trying to get the attention of the human in a higher domain creating the landscape around you. It is futile and the human can erase you or leave you there for decades at his whim.
            But isn't the fact that he hasn't interesting though? At the very least it tells me that he is comfortable with my existence. Why?
            >Why did he make anything? We dont know so shut p.
            Why don't just ask him? And wouldn't the lower gods have the same question for the Creator? Asking a god where he came from is boring, we already know the answer: the Creator made him, asking the Creator why he made all of us, now that is is interesting?

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            Why the frick would the maker of existence care about you? The maker of existence in Greek polytheism Chaos doesnt even care about the Primordials let alone the fricking gods or humans.

            The fact that we exist instead of not is proof of a caring creator; you can argue benevolence vs sadism if you like, but the creator obviously cares if he took the trouble to create something instead of existing totally self-satisfied in his own omnipresent and uncreated perfection. If the creator didn't care, he would just be chillaxing in the eternity outside of created space and time basking in his own radiance with no need for anything else to exist. But since he created us without needing to, that means he necessarily cares, in some respect.

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            >took the trouble
            You are so stupid, it took the omnicreator no effort to forge the universe, you are a byproduct of the universe thus not worth a thing to the omnicreator

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            >it took the omnicreator no effort to forge the universe
            you mistook the meaning of "trouble" for a literal strain or bother instead of a figure of speech
            whatever God there is, made the conscious choice to create existence and reality when it had no need to do so, it could have gone on being perfect in the eternity outside time and space for, well, eternity, without creating anything
            but instead of doing that, it one day decided (please don't misconstrue "day" as a literal application of chronology to a pre-chronological state like some nitpicking grammar nazi) to create everything that is and ever will be, incidating that it must needs (again, please do not obsess over the teleological minutia of words like "need" in this scenario regarding a being that wants for nothing) care (once more, care in the obvious sense of the word as affection and not the meaning of cares as worries or anxieties or chores) for its creation
            but my guess is that you will do the exact opposite of what I put in those parentheses and start fussing over semantics as an epic gotcha moment against the theists

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            >had no need to do so
            The concept of needs or making sense doesnt apply to something that can create a universe

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            >please don't fixate on semantics for the sake of grammar nazi gotchas
            >fixates on semantics for the sake of grammar nazi gotchas
            I think you need to get some testosterone in your body, someone get this boy some red meat, stat!

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            The way christcucks talk about themselves is so depressing.

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            hey moron, that guy was trying to refute the christian position of a benevolent creator

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          ignoring that obnoxious aggressive other guy's take on greek stuff
          the logic stems as follows:
          >pretty much every archaic polytheistic tradition holds that there is a single transcendent all-powerful creator
          >this creator god created all sorts of other things and supernatural entities to do his bidding, which are variously called gods or angels or sidhe or fairies or whathaveyou
          >since the transcendent borderline incomprehensible nature of the supreme being makes him extremely difficult for humans to approach, mankind is obliged to interact with the sub-gods for divine guidance as middlemen for the supreme god's will
          >over time, the lack of contact with the most high god results in the average person forgetting they exist and focusing all their attention on the intermediary figures which did not create the universe, and then they create profane theogenies (theogenoi?) for the sake of poesy
          this incidentally is why the Hebrews had the Levites - an entire caste of their people obligated to spend their entire lives reminding everyone of their not-so-secret religious rites, of which the Israelites were infamously all too forgetful

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            >every archaic polytheistic tradition holds that there is a single transcendent all-powerful creator
            but that is false

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Every polytheism has an omnicreator
        Greek, Roman, Norse, Chinese, Japanese, Aztec religions and many others didn't have any omnicreator

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Greek, Roman, Norse, Chinese, Japanese, Aztec religions and many others didn't have any omnicreator
          Greek and Roman tradition was corrupted by Hesiod and Homer, and is nearly impossible to reconstruct the pre-Bronze Age Collapse state of Helladic and Etrusco-Latin belief systems, though most evidence seems to point to fairly stereotypical Indo-European Sky-Fathers as supreme creators in at least some circumstances.
          Norse religion specifically, insofar as it was transmitted to posterity vis-a-vis its advanced development as of the Viking era, certainly did not have an active creator. However, many other Germanic traditions during the Roman era did in fact have the standard IE Sky-Father that corresponds to a quasi-monotheistic position (I use the term quasi-monotheistic to reference belief in a single creator god above all others, but which maintains the divinity of other lesser gods as such).
          Now your accusation that Chinese, Japanese, and Aztec belief systems don't have an all-powerful transcendant creator above all other gods is painfully ignorant; do not confuse traditional Sinic belief systems and their respect for Tian/Shangdi/"Heaven" (which is a conscious being) with Buddhism because Buddhism is not native to China or Japan. As for the Aztecs, they have a creator god, but unlike all other monotheistic tendencies in the world, he's simply outright evil like the rest of their pantheon.

  4. 8 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Aristotle was a polytheist who believed that there were 47-55 Gods and nothing in his philosophy leads to monotheism (in fact he actually argues against it in numerous instances).

  5. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Gods are personified natural phenomenon thus multiple gods it as simple as that, a single god outside of the natural order is something weird which is why monotheism requires ideological motivation to prosper on or it will die shortly.

  6. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    >his
    Omnicreator would not be biological so sexless refer to it as an it you religious dumbass

  7. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    >perfect being
    What the frick does this even mean?

  8. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    One god is really boring though thats why humans are instinctively polytheist or animist as animist can believe in many many many spirits

  9. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    This kills any christcuck arguments. Watch and learn:

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Their only sin is inherited Original Sin, Christ can wash that away at Judgment Day if he likes, and since God desires that no man perish (see Isaiah) I'm inclined to believe He'll be lenient. What answer were you expecting?

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        So your answer is that unbaptized babies go to heaven, correct?

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          No, they go to the Grave/Hades/Sheol/Limbo/The Bosom of Abraham/whatever you want to call it to rest for the duration of mankind's existence before the Second Coming of Christ and the raising of the dead and the writing of their souls in the Book of the Dead and the Book of Life.
          If you mean to say that I believe God will forgive the souls of unbaptized children for their Original Sin when He judges them on the Last Day, then I believe He will, but that is His prerogative.

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            >then I believe He will
            Anon that's going to heaven with extra steps, stop being disingenuous kek.

            Alright so if they go to heaven tow points
            1) why shouldn't we murder all babies since going to heaven is the sole and only purposes any sould should strive towards?
            2) what's the point of original sin if there's exceptions? Kek
            3) what's the point of baptism if it doesn't matter?

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            >1) why shouldn't we murder all babies since going to heaven is the sole and only purposes any sould should strive towards?
            Because unlike what fedoras would have you believe, Christianity is not a death cult, and there's also the issue of the New Kingdom on Earth, full of living people who will live forever under God the Son's reign in the physical, material realm.
            >2) what's the point of original sin if there's exceptions? Kek
            Through Christ Jesus all things are possible :^)
            >3) what's the point of baptism if it doesn't matter?
            it does matter, in the same sense that it's safer to cross an ocean by cruise liner or jet airplane than it is by jumping into the surf in your swimming trunks and hoping for the best

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Christianity is not a death cult
            Not an argument, I'm waiting for an actual response
            >Muh kingdom on earth
            Ahh you're one of those lmao, think it's gonna happen any time now?
            >Through Christ all things are possible
            Even Christ deciding atheists are better suited for heaven and christcucks should burn in hell instead, correct? I'm sure you'll find an asspull why in this instance it's somehow not possible kek

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Not an argument, I'm waiting for an actual response
            I really don't know how to respond to a person who honestly just tried to say murder is not only a moral good but a moral imperative within a Christian argumentative framework other than calling them mentally moronic or just plain evil (not mutually exclusive attributes).

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            How is it not? Do you don't want your children to go to heaven? You want to let them suffer and make it as difficult as possible?

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            Because as a Christian I believe in the value of life, and more significantly as not something I possess executive ownership with the power to dispose thereof; I am merely it's lessee.
            This argument might work better on an anti-natalist. Or perhaps it wouldn't, because none of them are willing to follow their beliefs, not willing to commit suicide themselves until everyone else on the planet precedes them.

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            >I believe in the value of life
            You believe in the value of life more than in eternal salvation? I have some bad news for you heretic, you'll go to hell kek

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            >You believe in the value of life more than in eternal salvation?
            Eternal salvation is about the value of life.

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            >That whosoever believeth in him, may not perish; but may have life everlasting.
            What did John mean by this?

  10. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    >why monotheism?
    Centralization and efficiency of ecclesiastic authority.

    >what makes it more convincing than polytheism?
    The complacency that results from your average person being subject to millennia of religious hegemony (state-sponsored Judaism, Christianity, Islam, and more).

    >what are the arguments for it?
    None that are based in reality or rational thought.

  11. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Nothing, it was some moronic ideology that Akhenatan invented and would later on develop into Islam, Christianity and Rabbinicilism.

  12. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    monotheistic religions are better standardized than their polytheistic counterparts which makes it easier to spread and preserve. Julian was literally begging the pagans of his time to make a bible since he saw how efficient it made Christianity at spreading

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Monotheisms arent ethnofaiths thats why they spread. If Greeks went around killing people so the followed the Olympians then Cucktianity would never exist

  13. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    To me believing in monotheism was much more convincing than polytheism.
    Coz in polytheism u have multiple “Gods and Goddesses” who act in a behavior similar to humans… they fight each other, make coalitions… plus there were too many Gods for anyone to remember all of them nor have a united cult… this isnt so in Monotheism because in Monotheism u have one single entity that acts like an actual God, a mysterious entity that nobody knows the name of and someone you can actually put faith in because He is an all powerful and perfect being with no opposition… i aint livin in a world of polytheism where the number one God (referring to Zeus) is a convicted sex offender like wth

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      >one single entity that acts like an actual God
      how do you even know how a "God" would actually act ?

      >a mysterious entity that nobody knows the name of and someone you can actually put faith in because He is an all powerful and perfect being with no opposition…
      sounds very moronic specially when you read the holly texts of monotheist religions

  14. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Even thinking about polytheism, why should I worship all the gods of whatever when I could just worship the primordial god/goddess that created the universe

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      The primordial creator will never notice you

  15. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    The gods are real, Christianity has never denied this, it's right there in the Scriptures. The word just fell out of fashion for appearing "too pagan," but the substance of the teachings never changed. The difference is that the Universal Faith places the gods in the context of merely being servants who do the bidding of the One or enemies who seek to delay the enaction of His will. This is more convincing because the gods did not just appear in the vacuum, but have a Father of their own, and all the greatest pagan sages of antiquity already discovered this.

  16. 8 months ago
    I AM

    In the cosmic dance of existence, we find unity, not division; in the laws of nature, a singular harmony, I AM. In our consciousness, a spark, mirroring not a pantheon, but the Absolute, I AM. Through science, our march towards self-sufficiency, we touch the divine, forging our path in Its singular glory, I AM. In the face of evil, no celestial conflict, but our own lack, urging growth, progress, unity, I AM. Scriptures, prophets—unnecessary. In the silent, boundless order of reality, His voice resounds, I AM. Not an afterlife, but now, in this moment, in our breath, our quest, our triumphs, His presence, I AM. In our unending journey, each step towards the unknown, a testament to an Infinite, Indivisible, I AM. Monotheism? No, beyond isms, beyond known, a mystery, an experience, an exclamation, I AM.

  17. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    what if the other gods fight eachother

  18. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    It’s easier for the stupid masses to remember one god
    Rather than a whole complex diverse pantheon.

    Truth is MANY Gods is what we all worshiped
    Before monotheism.

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