Why is Christianity is the only monotheistic religion ?

Why is Christianity is the only monotheistic religion ?

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  1. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >worship God Jesus and 'the holy Spirit' (whatever that is)
    >monotheistic

    >worship an entire pantheon of saints + Mary
    >monotheistic

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Why are you talking about catholics ?

      What does it have to do with my thread ?

      bro. baal, ashtaroth, dagon, and molech are literally characters in the bible.

      Yes, they are examples of false gods. It doesn't say they are real

      Its Yahwe tho

      In english you say Jehovah.

      judaism
      islam
      those don't count?

      Muslims bow down to the kaaba and kiss the black stone.

      Jews have made their rabbis and themselves as Gods.

      Why is the JW translation of the Bible different from mainline, scholarly translations?

      Because the JW translation isn't biased

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        the first segment is not about Catholics
        Jesus and God are worshipped separately and are two different entities

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          Ahh the thing is Jehova's witnesses are not trinitarian. They don't worship Jesus. They are basically arians. So other Christians don't see them as Christian.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          Christians don't worship Jesus, they only worship Jehovah

          Why do you keep lying ?

          Ahh the thing is Jehova's witnesses are not trinitarian. They don't worship Jesus. They are basically arians. So other Christians don't see them as Christian.

          How can I be arian when my religion existed before Arius was born ?

          I always thought Elohim was a cool name

          Elohim just means God, it's not a name

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous
          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            Jesus said not all those who call themselves Christian are actually Christian

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            The early Christians considered Jesus to be God. It was only later with the heretic Arius that your position came about.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            >The early Christians considered Jesus to be God

            Wrong. They all considered Jesus a divine being, but have ALWAYS said that the Father is God Almighty and that Jesus is his servant.

            It wasn't until philosophers from Alexandria poisonned the true doctrine that people thought Jesus was God

            Why did you lie ?

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            God exhausts the category of divinity.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            Jehovah alone is divine in the supreme sense

            All other divine creatures are less than he

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            There is only one divine being. That is God, what you are doing is some arian pagan heresy where you can have other divines with one supreme god. You think of Jehova/God the father as Zeus and Jesus as Apollo. That is heresy. There is only one God, one divine, Jesus is divine therefore he is God.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Because the JW translation isn't biased
        It's just bad, and clearly translated to suit the theological needs of the Watchtower.

        NWT for Hebrews 1:8: But about the Son, he says: ‘God is your throne forever and ever, and the scepter of your Kingdom is the scepter of uprightness.

        Contrast this with other translations: https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Hebrews%201:8

        The NWT is a laughable attempt at Biblical translation. I mean, even if you want to just look at John 1:1 you can see the abomination raise its head.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          >NWT for Hebrews 1:8: But about the Son, he says: ‘God is your throne forever and ever, and the scepter of your Kingdom is the scepter of uprightness.
          >Contrast this with other translations: https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Hebrews%201:8

          Literally no difference

          >look at John 1:1

          How do you say "and the word was a god" in biblical greek ?

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            >literally no difference
            Are you blind?

            >How do you say "and the word was a god" in biblical greek ?
            You are free to reference the overview here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_1:1 (See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_1:1#The_Word_as_a_god if you are really lazy)
            The consensus, which you know very well, from Biblical scholars and translators (who actually publish their names, unlike the NWT) is that the NWT is in error.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            How do you say "and the word was a god" in biblical greek ?

            There is only one divine being. That is God, what you are doing is some arian pagan heresy where you can have other divines with one supreme god. You think of Jehova/God the father as Zeus and Jesus as Apollo. That is heresy. There is only one God, one divine, Jesus is divine therefore he is God.

            The word 'god' can describe several characters in the Bible, with various senses and in various degrees.

            'God' (El/Theos) basically means "powerful one".

            It can be used of angels (Psalm 8:5), prophets (Exodus 7:1), human judges (Psalm 82:6), kings (Psalm 45:6) and even Satan ! (2 Corinthians 4:4)

            Moses was called god because God gave him the power to accomplish miracles in front of pharaoh.
            Judges were called gods because they had authority over Israel.
            Jesus is called god because he is a mighty being, who was granted rulership in heaven and on earth.

            When it says there is only one God it is the sense of being the eternal, omniscient and omnipotent Creator. And I agree that only ONE person fits this description: Jehovah !

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            >How do you say "and the word was a god" in biblical greek ?
            Why are you being obtuse? You know full well there isn't an indefinite article in Greek of the era. There are, however, actual contextual clues. This stuff was demonstrated as a heresy centuries ago, so there's no need to debate this further.

            You should probably be more concerned with this history of your own organization's false prophecies than anything else in this thread, though.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            Then how do you say "and the word was a god" in biblical greek ?

            >You should probably be more concerned with this history of your own organization's false prophecies

            Did a single person in God's modern organization claim to receive direct revelation from God ?

            Did a single person in God's modern organization claim to be a prophet ?

            Did a single person in God's modern organization claim to be infaillible ?

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            According to Joseph Zygmunt, the response to each of the prophetic failures by Watch Tower Society adherents followed a general pattern:

            The initial reaction by both rank and file and the movement's leaders was usually a combination of disappointment and puzzlement.
            Proselytism declined, but members maintained an attitude of watchful waiting for the predictions to materialize. The doctrinal bases for the prophecies were reexamined and conjectures offered as to why the expected events might have been "delayed".
            A fuller realization of the quandary was achieved. The group asserted that the prophecies had, in fact, been partially fulfilled, or that some event of prophetic significance—usually supernatural and hence not open to disconfirmation—had actually transpired on the nominated dates. Belief was sustained that God's plan was continuing to unfold.
            Unfulfilled portions of the failed prophecies were projected into the future by issuing re-dated predictions, in association with retrospective reinterpretation of earlier failures.
            A selective interpretation of emerging historical events as confirmation of the signs of the approaching end. A pessimistic worldview sensitized the group to perceive almost every social disturbance and natural disaster as an indicator of the impending collapse of the earthly system.
            Zygmunt concluded that the group's faith in its own belief system provided a basis for the claim of fulfillment, and the selective perception of global events furnished supportive empirical evidence. "In this sense and to this extent," he wrote, "the prophecies could not 'fail'." Unfulfilled prophecies were converted into partial successes and welcomed as divinely provided lessons revealing God's purposes more fully, yet it was accepted that each of those prophecies would eventually come to pass.

            Kek

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            https://jwfacts.com/watchtower/jehovahs-prophet.php

            Yawn.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            Debunked

            https://onlytruegod.org/jwstrs/prophecy.htm

            jwfacts is not a reliable source of information btw. You shouldn't be so naive and believe everything you read on the internet.

            Jehovah gives this advice:
            "The simple man believes every word, but the prudent give thought to their steps." (Proverbs 14:15)

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            The website provides clear images of Watchtower rags. I don't need a website that claims "every effort has been made to adhere to the current views published by the "faithful and discreet slave" (Matthew 24:45; Luke 12:42) through the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society" to prove the contrary to what their own rags say in black and white.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            It's essential to critically evaluate the credibility of sources, fact-check, and cross-reference information to ensure its accuracy.

            Misinformation, hoaxes, and biased content are prevalent on apostate websites, so a healthy dose of skepticism is important to make informed decisions.

            See:

            https://research.asu.edu/seven-ways-to-protect-yourself-against-misinformation

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            >It's essential to critically evaluate the credibility of sources, fact-check, and cross-reference information to ensure its accuracy.
            So are the images provided on the website not images from Watchtower?

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            You are not listening to the experts:

            https://research.asu.edu/seven-ways-to-protect-yourself-against-misinformation

            Misinformation can distort the truth by taking information out of context or presenting it in a misleading way, which can lead to misunderstandings and false beliefs.

            It's important to critically evaluate the information we encounter to separate fact from fiction.

            it's important to address your gullibility, which can leave you vulnerable to misinformation and manipulation. That's the goal of apostates.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            So are the images provided on the website not images from Watchtower?

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Misinformation can distort the truth by taking information out of context or presenting it in a misleading way, which can lead to misunderstandings and false beliefs.

            Kek. I worship the Monad. Christians aren't monotheist, also protestants aren't Christians.

            >Christians aren't monotheist

            How ?

            >also protestants aren't Christians

            I agree

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            So are the images provided on the website not images from Watchtower?

            If so, how is the image misleading?

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            Not him, your performance here is an embarrassment for the JWs.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            >It's embarassing to say that developing critical thinking skills, staying informed, and questioning information can help in becoming a more discerning and informed individual.

            Why do you disagree ?

            Do you want peopel to blindly believe everything they see on the internet ?

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            I think it is embarrassing that:
            1)You are unwilling to answer whether the images are real or fake.
            2)You do not present an argument as to how exactly the message is being distorted, instead you keep copypasting a general statement about misinformation.
            3)You're trying to dishonestly put words in my mouth even though it's clear that that's not my point.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            >1)You are unwilling to answer whether the images are real or fake.

            They are out of context. Which makes them fake.

            Posting the whole context will make them real.

            >2)You do not present an argument as to how exactly the message is being distorted

            The burden of proof is on the one who posts misinformation. If you say that there's a rabbit on the moon, it is your job to prove it, not the other party.

            >You're trying to dishonestly put words in my mouth

            I am not, you disagreed about what I said about fact checking sources and reading things in context.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            >They are out of context. Which makes them fake.
            If that's what you want to express, then it's more accurate to say that the images are real but the message presented by the site is false.
            >The burden of proof is on the one who posts misinformation. If you say that there's a rabbit on the moon, it is your job to prove it, not the other party.
            Would you be willing to argue what the proper context is were someone to post the entire issue of the Watchtower that each of the images is lifted from?
            >I am not, you disagreed about what I said about fact checking sources and reading things in context.
            No, I said that your performance is embarrassing. I think the proper context of my statement is obvious on its face, but it's also further described in the post you just replied to. Are you going to ignore that context?

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            >There are, however, actual contextual clues

            Indeed, such as:

            Clue #1
            if the Word was WITH God, then the Word is a DIFFERENT God. Not the same God he is with, because that is nonsensical.
            Hence correctly translated as "a god".

            Clue #2
            John makes a grammatical distinction by adding the definite article to the God that the Word was with, while the Word does have an article, making THE GOD of greater importance than the Word.

            Clue #3
            The Coptic version (IInd-IIIrd century) does translate does translate it as "a god"

      • 7 months ago
        Dirk

        It's an obsolete, inferior transliteration. A translation would be "I Am"
        >Hebrew has no J
        >English has a Y
        >"Jehovah" uses vowel sounds for Adonai.
        >Yahweh preferred by academics
        >yahweh preferred by translators
        >yahweh preferred by Christians
        >yahweh more popular among English speakers

        You're holding on as a matter of cult messaging, not intelligibility.

        • 7 months ago
          Dirk
        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Hebrew has no J
          >English has a Y

          What's the name of the Messiah ?

          >A translation would be "I Am"

          Jehovah doesn't mean "I Am".

          Encyclopedia Britannica:
          "The writer of Exodus 3:14-15 ... explains it [the meaning of God's name] by the phrase EHYEH asher EHYEH (Ex. iii., 14); this can be translated `I am that I am' or MORE EXACTLY or `I will be that which I will be.'" - p. 995, 14th ed., v. 12.

          • 7 months ago
            Dirk

            How many vowels are in the name of God in Hebrew?

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            Three.

            Yahweh is not correct, it is a Samaritan coreuption. It was more likely pronounced YA-HO-WAH.

            According to Joseph Zygmunt, the response to each of the prophetic failures by Watch Tower Society adherents followed a general pattern:

            The initial reaction by both rank and file and the movement's leaders was usually a combination of disappointment and puzzlement.
            Proselytism declined, but members maintained an attitude of watchful waiting for the predictions to materialize. The doctrinal bases for the prophecies were reexamined and conjectures offered as to why the expected events might have been "delayed".
            A fuller realization of the quandary was achieved. The group asserted that the prophecies had, in fact, been partially fulfilled, or that some event of prophetic significance—usually supernatural and hence not open to disconfirmation—had actually transpired on the nominated dates. Belief was sustained that God's plan was continuing to unfold.
            Unfulfilled portions of the failed prophecies were projected into the future by issuing re-dated predictions, in association with retrospective reinterpretation of earlier failures.
            A selective interpretation of emerging historical events as confirmation of the signs of the approaching end. A pessimistic worldview sensitized the group to perceive almost every social disturbance and natural disaster as an indicator of the impending collapse of the earthly system.
            Zygmunt concluded that the group's faith in its own belief system provided a basis for the claim of fulfillment, and the selective perception of global events furnished supportive empirical evidence. "In this sense and to this extent," he wrote, "the prophecies could not 'fail'." Unfulfilled prophecies were converted into partial successes and welcomed as divinely provided lessons revealing God's purposes more fully, yet it was accepted that each of those prophecies would eventually come to pass.

            Kek

            Did a single person in God's modern organization claim to receive direct revelation from God ?

            Did a single person in God's modern organization claim to be a prophet ?

            Did a single person in God's modern organization claim to be infaillible ?

          • 7 months ago
            Dirk

            You deny that the masoretic vowel pointings actually correspond to "Adonai"? Can I get that in writing from the watchtower?

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            >You deny that the masoretic vowel pointings actually correspond to "Adonai"?

            It was a coincidence that the vowels of Adonai matched the original Yahowah.

            This coincidence is remarkable, even providential for those who believe that God watched over his Name (obviously without the copyists knowing !).

            >Can I get that in writing from the watchtower?

            What's the watchtower ?

  2. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    bro. baal, ashtaroth, dagon, and molech are literally characters in the bible.

  3. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Its Yahwe tho

  4. 7 months ago
    Radiochan

    judaism
    islam
    those don't count?

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Why do you ledtypol pilpuls Black person the dildo soi?

  5. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why is the JW translation of the Bible different from mainline, scholarly translations?

  6. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    I always thought Elohim was a cool name

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      a ton of Hebrew names are cool as shit
      Azazel
      Lazarus

  7. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Kek. I worship the Monad. Christians aren't monotheist, also protestants aren't Christians.

  8. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Because Jesus is God and came to Earth to educate us His message.
    He said that there is One God. Therefore that's just the way it is.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Is God omniscient ?

      >They are out of context. Which makes them fake.
      If that's what you want to express, then it's more accurate to say that the images are real but the message presented by the site is false.
      >The burden of proof is on the one who posts misinformation. If you say that there's a rabbit on the moon, it is your job to prove it, not the other party.
      Would you be willing to argue what the proper context is were someone to post the entire issue of the Watchtower that each of the images is lifted from?
      >I am not, you disagreed about what I said about fact checking sources and reading things in context.
      No, I said that your performance is embarrassing. I think the proper context of my statement is obvious on its face, but it's also further described in the post you just replied to. Are you going to ignore that context?

      >Would you be willing to argue what the proper context is were someone to post the entire issue of the Watchtower that each of the images is lifted from?

      Which one ?

      >No, I said that your performance is embarrassing. I think the proper context of my statement is obvious on its face, but it's also further described in the post you just replied to. Are you going to ignore that context?

      I will leave JWs forever if you point out something that I said here that was false.

      If not, there is nothing about any of my replies that can be described as "embarassing" since all I did was post the truth

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        God is everything. Come on, you know this. God is:
        >Everything which has happened
        >Everything which will be
        >Everything which is
        >Everything which is possible
        >Everything which is impossible

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          So he is omniscient, right ?

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yes.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            Did Jesus know the day and hour of the End of this system ?

            So are the images provided on the website not images from Watchtower?

            If so, how is the image misleading?

            >how is the image misleading?

            Which one ?

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            Are you fricking moronic? I've said it cleary:
            >Jesus is God.
            >God is everything

            Therefore yes, Jesus knows everything you could possibly fathom, and infinitely more, about every dimension, time, and hypothetical.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Which one ?
        Any of them, doesn't matter.
        >I will leave JWs forever if you point out something that I said here that was false.
        See:

        >1)You are unwilling to answer whether the images are real or fake.

        They are out of context. Which makes them fake.

        Posting the whole context will make them real.

        >2)You do not present an argument as to how exactly the message is being distorted

        The burden of proof is on the one who posts misinformation. If you say that there's a rabbit on the moon, it is your job to prove it, not the other party.

        >You're trying to dishonestly put words in my mouth

        I am not, you disagreed about what I said about fact checking sources and reading things in context.

        >you disagreed about what I said about fact checking sources and reading things in context

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Any of them, doesn't matter

          Pick one

          >you disagreed about what I said about fact checking sources and reading things in context

          You did, or else what would I have said that you disagreed with ?

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Pick one
            https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1972241
            >You did, or else what would I have said that you disagreed with ?
            I did not say that I disagree with your post. I said that the way you're acting is embarrassing, and then I further explained why I think it's embarrassing here

            I think it is embarrassing that:
            1)You are unwilling to answer whether the images are real or fake.
            2)You do not present an argument as to how exactly the message is being distorted, instead you keep copypasting a general statement about misinformation.
            3)You're trying to dishonestly put words in my mouth even though it's clear that that's not my point.

            .
            Are you going to honour your promise and leave the JW now?

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            Why is the word prophet in brackets ?

            >I will leave JWs forever
            No, you won't. It engages in cultish behaviors with regard to apostates.

            How ?

            We leave apostates alone and don't interfere in their lives, how is that cultish ?

            Are you fricking moronic? I've said it cleary:
            >Jesus is God.
            >God is everything

            Therefore yes, Jesus knows everything you could possibly fathom, and infinitely more, about every dimension, time, and hypothetical.

            “Concerning that day and hour nobody knows, neither the angels of the heavens nor the Son, but only the Father.” (Matthew 24:36, 42)

            Is Jesus omniscient ?

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Why is the word prophet in brackets ?
            I don't know, you tell me.
            When are you going to address the rest of my post? I did not say that I disagree with your post. I said that the way you're acting is embarrassing, and then I further explained why I think it's embarrassing here

            I think it is embarrassing that:
            1)You are unwilling to answer whether the images are real or fake.
            2)You do not present an argument as to how exactly the message is being distorted, instead you keep copypasting a general statement about misinformation.
            3)You're trying to dishonestly put words in my mouth even though it's clear that that's not my point.

            (You) #.
            Are you going to honour your promise and leave the JW now?

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            >I don't know, you tell me.

            Let me help you

            The Handbook of Effective Writing, Moore, 1966, p.145, explains it:
            "Double quotation marks are used to enclose ... a word used in an unusual way."

            And The Guide and Handbook for Writing, Griggs-Webster, 1964, p. 487, says:
            "Use quotation marks to indicate a word used in a different sense than someone else has used it."

            So why is it in quotation marks/brackets ?

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            Perhaps that is it. The rest of the article's context didn't seem to imply that, which is why I wasn't sure, but it really might be the most reasonable reading.
            Moving on, when are you going to address the rest of my post? I did not say that I disagree with your post. I said that the way you're acting is embarrassing, and then I further explained why I think it's embarrassing here

            I think it is embarrassing that:
            1)You are unwilling to answer whether the images are real or fake.
            2)You do not present an argument as to how exactly the message is being distorted, instead you keep copypasting a general statement about misinformation.
            3)You're trying to dishonestly put words in my mouth even though it's clear that that's not my point.

            .
            Are you going to honour your promise and leave the JW now? Or were you lying when you made that promise?

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            >The rest of the article's context didn't seem to imply that,

            Let me help you

            In the link you yourself posted

            ( https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1972241 )

            It explains on paragraph 5 what it meant by "prophet". Can you find it ?

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            I have already conceded that it's likely the most reasonable reading.
            Moving on, when are you going to address the rest of my post? I did not say that I disagree with your post. I said that the way you're acting is embarrassing, and then I further explained why I think it's embarrassing here

            I think it is embarrassing that:
            1)You are unwilling to answer whether the images are real or fake.
            2)You do not present an argument as to how exactly the message is being distorted, instead you keep copypasting a general statement about misinformation.
            3)You're trying to dishonestly put words in my mouth even though it's clear that that's not my point.

            .
            Are you going to honour your promise and leave the JW now? Or were you lying when you made that promise?

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            >I have already conceded that it's likely the most reasonable reading

            Good

            >I said that the way you're acting is embarrassing, and then I further explained why I think it's embarrassing here

            I think it is embarrassing that:


            1)You are unwilling to answer whether the images are real or fake.
            2)You do not present an argument as to how exactly the message is being distorted, instead you keep copypasting a general statement about misinformation.
            3)You're trying to dishonestly put words in my mouth even though it's clear that that's not my point.

            Alright, let me look at your post

            >You do not present an argument as to how exactly the message is being distorted

            I did. Why have you lied ?

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            >I did. Why have you lied ?
            I am not going to argue about this because it's irrelevant. You falsely said that I disagreed with your post, and then you promised to leave the JW forever if I can show a falsehood you said here. Are you going to leave the JW or were you lying about that?

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            >I am not going to argue about this because it's irrelevant

            It's not, it means that I have indeed not said anything false

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            Even if I were lying about you not presenting an argument as to how exactly the message was being distorted, I still didn't disagree with your message about disinformation. With that in mind, your statement about me disagreeing with you was false. Are you going to leave the JW or did you lie about that?

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            >, I still didn't disagree with your message about disinformation

            So you agreed with everything I said ?

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            I didn't express an agreement or disagreement with you regarding disinformation, I only said that the way you're acting is embarrassing. I then listed three reasons for this.
            Are you going to leave the JW now?

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            > I only said that the way you're acting is embarrassing.

            Letks look at your post:

            >1)You are unwilling to answer whether the images are real or fake.

            I did

            >2)You do not present an argument as to how exactly

            I did

            3)You're trying to dishonestly put words in my mouth even though it's clear that that's not my point.

            Your point is that I am embarassing for 1) being unwilling to answer whether the images are real or fake. (even though I did) and for not presenting an argument (even though I did)

            We can thus see that you have been lying

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            It is irrelevant whether I have been lying or not. You said that I disagreed with what you posted about disinformation, which I did not. This means that what you said here

            >1)You are unwilling to answer whether the images are real or fake.

            They are out of context. Which makes them fake.

            Posting the whole context will make them real.

            >2)You do not present an argument as to how exactly the message is being distorted

            The burden of proof is on the one who posts misinformation. If you say that there's a rabbit on the moon, it is your job to prove it, not the other party.

            >You're trying to dishonestly put words in my mouth

            I am not, you disagreed about what I said about fact checking sources and reading things in context.

            :
            >you disagreed about what I said about fact checking sources and reading things in context
            is false.
            Are you going to leave the JW now?

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            Jesus in his human form possessed human qualities. However, his essence is one with God and the father.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            So Jesus is not omniscient then ?

            Hence he is not God !

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            Your pathetic 1-dimensional thinking is obviously in bad faith. You think your silly little word games mean something, but they don't.
            You haven't spent 1 minute reading scripture, and it shows. It's like trying to understand atomic physics without knowing algebra.
            Just have faith in that people much, much smarter and learned than you have solved these questions.
            People like you think they know more than 2000 years worth of scholarship, kek.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        >I will leave JWs forever
        No, you won't. It engages in cultish behaviors with regard to apostates.

  9. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    WHen the commandment says
    >Thou shalt have no other gods before me
    What other gods are there? Can you have other gods after "me"?

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >What other gods are there?

      Idols, whoch are false gods

      >Can you have other gods after "me"?

      All competing objects of worship

      Your pathetic 1-dimensional thinking is obviously in bad faith. You think your silly little word games mean something, but they don't.
      You haven't spent 1 minute reading scripture, and it shows. It's like trying to understand atomic physics without knowing algebra.
      Just have faith in that people much, much smarter and learned than you have solved these questions.
      People like you think they know more than 2000 years worth of scholarship, kek.

      Does Jesus know the day and hour ?

      If not he is not God

      >People like you think they know more than 2000 years worth of scholarship, kek.

      The trinity was invented by Egyptian priests

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        JESUS KNOWS EVERYTHING. HOW IS IT DIFFICULT FOR YOU?
        JESUS IS EVERY POSSIBILITY, FORM, ITEM OF KNOWLEDGE, PIECE OF MATTER, EVERYTHING, ALL OF IT.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          >JESUS KNOWS EVERYTHING

          “Concerning that day and hour nobody knows, neither the angels of the heavens nor the Son, but only the Father.” (Matthew 24:36, 42)

          Christianity is a trinitarism, idiot.

          What does Deuteronomy 6:4 say ?

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            You're being obtuse. You've been told many times the answer to this.
            Jesus = God
            The Son = Jesus
            God = The Son
            God & Jesus = everything

            However, the Son is a human sent to Earth.

            Your rationalist logic is flawed.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            So you're saying that on earth Jesus was a human, but in heaven Jesus is Almighty God, correct ?

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            Jesus has always been almighty God. Jesus is everything, everywhere all at once.

            Imagine you're sucking a dick. You feel good, and you are a dicksucker. But you also remain you. The cum which ends up in your mouth, is someone else, but also becomes God. Just like Jesus.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Jesus has always been almighty God

            That's not what you said. You said that Jesus was a human

            You will literally never convince this literal mental moron by argument. Just pray for him.

            What is one thing I believe that is false ?

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            >What is one thing I believe that is false ?
            That you should put a space before punctuation.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Idols, whoch are false gods
        The commandment doesn't say that, it says other gods. False gods are literally not gods. Were there other gods at the time of the commandments writing, but they were later decided to be false gods?

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          >The commandment doesn't say that, it says other gods

          Yes, idols. Which are false gods.

          >Were there other gods at the time of the commandments writing,

          Yes, they are called idols. Which are false gods.

          >but they were later decided to be false gods?

          Idols have always been false gods

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            It doesn't say idols, it says other gods. This may have been interpreted otherwise even within the bible later, but the commandment literally talks about other gods as though they are real. It doesn't say "Only worship me, the one true god" or anything like that, it doesn't say other gods are false, only that worship of them is not to be before "me", as though at the head of a pantheon.

  10. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Christianity is a trinitarism, idiot.

  11. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    It’s not. Abrahamism is decadent.

  12. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Christianity is about as monotheistic as Hinduism

    "Uhh yes we worship multiple gods but they're actually just one god really!!!"

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Define "god"

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        Define "define"

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          What does "god" mean

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            You know it when you see it

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            See what ?

            It doesn't say idols, it says other gods. This may have been interpreted otherwise even within the bible later, but the commandment literally talks about other gods as though they are real. It doesn't say "Only worship me, the one true god" or anything like that, it doesn't say other gods are false, only that worship of them is not to be before "me", as though at the head of a pantheon.

            >It doesn't say idols, it says other gods

            Yeah, they were false gods. That's what idols are

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Yeah, they were false gods. That's what idols are
            >Thou shalt have no other gods before me
            Doesn't say other gods are false, literally implies they're real.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Doesn't say other gods are false, literally implies they're real.

            It doesn't, it says not to worship the pagan gods

            If I say that ancient Greeks worshipped Zeus, am I implying that I believe that Zeus is real ?

            >What is one thing I believe that is false ?
            That you should put a space before punctuation.

            No, I am French

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            It says
            >Thou shalt have no other gods before me
            It does NOT say
            >Don't worship false gods
            It does NOT say
            >Other gods are false
            It does NOT say
            >I am the ONLY god
            Another commandment says
            >I am the Lord thy God
            That commandment does NOT say
            >I am the only god.
            I hope this helps.
            Consider this:
            >Thou shalt spend no currency before the dollar
            Do other currencies exist?
            >No!
            You say,
            >They are false currencies

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Thou shalt have no other gods before me
            >It does NOT say Don't worship false gods

            That's literally what it means. The two sentences are the same

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            The sentences are literally different, with different words with different meanings. You pretending they are the same doesn't mean they are.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            >What does "god" mean
            A divine being? What's the point of this query?

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            What does "divine" mean ?

            It is irrelevant whether I have been lying or not. You said that I disagreed with what you posted about disinformation, which I did not. This means that what you said here [...]:
            >you disagreed about what I said about fact checking sources and reading things in context
            is false.
            Are you going to leave the JW now?

            >It is irrelevant whether I have been lying

            I accept your concession

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            >I accept your concession
            You said that I disagreed with what you posted about disinformation, which I did not. This means that what you said here

            >1)You are unwilling to answer whether the images are real or fake.

            They are out of context. Which makes them fake.

            Posting the whole context will make them real.

            >2)You do not present an argument as to how exactly the message is being distorted

            The burden of proof is on the one who posts misinformation. If you say that there's a rabbit on the moon, it is your job to prove it, not the other party.

            >You're trying to dishonestly put words in my mouth

            I am not, you disagreed about what I said about fact checking sources and reading things in context.

            #:
            >you disagreed about what I said about fact checking sources and reading things in context
            is false.
            Are you going to leave the JW now?

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            Depart from me, belial. The whole world has witnessed your lie

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            Even if I were lying, what you said here

            >1)You are unwilling to answer whether the images are real or fake.

            They are out of context. Which makes them fake.

            Posting the whole context will make them real.

            >2)You do not present an argument as to how exactly the message is being distorted

            The burden of proof is on the one who posts misinformation. If you say that there's a rabbit on the moon, it is your job to prove it, not the other party.

            >You're trying to dishonestly put words in my mouth

            I am not, you disagreed about what I said about fact checking sources and reading things in context.

            :
            >you disagreed about what I said about fact checking sources and reading things in context
            would still be false.
            Are you going to leave the JW now?

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            I don't read the comments of a liar

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            Thank you for confirming that JWs are liars. You broke your promise, and you know it.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            Moron shouldn't have made a promise he wasn't willing to follow through on
            >"It is better that you should not vow than that you should vow and not pay." Ecclesiastes 5:5

  13. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    You will literally never convince this literal mental moron by argument. Just pray for him.

  14. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    The Bible, the actual Bible and not your mistranslation, doesn't call him Jehovah, rather it calls him Lord and God.

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