Why does god in almost all religions punish those who don't worship him.

God is stated to be "most merciful" yet he will punish those who don't worship him???? And this is stated in many holy books and is stated a lot more in Qur'an, This just feels wrong. Why would god punish his creation to "hell" I get this has a lot of angles and sides to cover. What if those who don't worship him are sinners in the wrost way possible, and what if those who don't worship him aren't? Imagine living a peaceful, "sin-free" life only to go to hell just for not worshipping a god? What does X think about this, can anyone enlighten me?

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  1. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Maybe it's not really meant as worship, but that not believing in him makes your life hell.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      This. It all a about free will. Your either doing the right thing or you are a gayot. There is no middle ground

  2. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Because most religions were made by men to control other men. Hell, punishment and all that shit is pure fear-mongering propaganda. It doesn't exist. The truth about god can only be seen through DMT or Ayahuasca. Nothing else. Because you will actually see it and experience God and you'll clearly see it's nothing like what those desert homosexuals said. What men say about it is pure bullshit. Every single so called holy book is bullshit too. Don't follow religions because all you're gonna end up with is an entirely false dogma that's gonna lock your brain in place and will not allow you to critically think.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      t. spiritual baby telling you about shutting off certain areas of knowledge completely stating you can think more critical that way

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Also men alone aren't capable of reasoning the truth without God to clear up everything.
      Ultimately without God we wander our endless confusion. God takes confusion, chaos, and turns it into a pillar of order and creation.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      You can see God as a radio wave, by believing in him you tune your consciousness on his wave length, if everyone does the same, everyone is One. But if you sin you lose the synchronicity, so if you repent and tune again you'll be part of God again, that's why:

      God always forgives, because God is the Word, God is a Law.

      Well, you see I am Muslim, and I have only recently started questioning this whole religion thing, and starting to think "outside the box" as it is really forbidden here to think like that or even mention god the way I did. I find some parts about Islam extremely weird and not convincing, and the fact that some Muslim researchers nowadays are forbidding stuff based on their understanding of Hadith. One that made me really cringe was saying that drawing portraits of people is considered haram???? This wasn't mentioned at all in any book or hadith or anything but they extracted it somehow I think this is completely bullshit.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        https://sunnah.com/bukhari:7557

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Whether or not the hadith was true or fake, why is something this simple forbidden I m still supposed to know, right?

      • 4 months ago
        Inversion

        Thinking out of the box is what is called insight or transcending limits. You can't ascend toward an higher consciousness if you are bind. Could be they made forbidden the questioning like if it was a test to so you could separate the wise from the unwise.

        Jesus said : You can't be a prophet in your village and a physician in your own house.

        Ascending toward higher consciousness or comprehension is subjective journey or a pilgrimage.

        You can see God as tree and everyone consciousness as a leaf on that tree, we are all different but we are all connected through the tree and we are one, the tree. (My personal belief is : We are all an individual being but our consciousness (Ego) is made of God as medium (substance / Life), matters is made of that substance too, so Mind and Body are made of God.)

        The name ALLAH and Christ were both part of a same word ( KRYSTHL-A ) that had 7 syllables : the 7 songs of the creation.

        • 4 months ago
          Inversion

          > forgot the pic.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Do you have like a book or a read to know more about ur idea, I am quite interested in knowing more.

          • 4 months ago
            Inversion

            The gateway experience from Monroe institute, about the holographic universe and holographic consciousness.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            Thanks again Anon you are cool

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          >You can see God as tree and everyone consciousness as a leaf on that tree, we are all different but we are all connected through the tree and we are one, the tree. (My personal belief is : We are all an individual being but our consciousness (Ego) is made of God as medium (substance / Life), matters is made of that substance too, so Mind and Body are made of God.)

          قال تعال (خَلَقَكُم مِّن نَّفْسٍ وَاحِدَةٍ ثُمَّ جَعَلَ مِنْهَا زَوْجَهَا وَأَنزَلَ لَكُم مِّنَ الْأَنْعَامِ ثَمَانِيَةَ أَزْوَاجٍ ۚ يَخْلُقُكُمْ فِي بُطُونِ أُمَّهَاتِكُمْ خَلْقًا مِّن بَعْدِ خَلْقٍ فِي ظُلُمَاتٍ ثَلَاثٍ ۚ ذَٰلِكُمُ اللَّهُ رَبُّكُمْ لَهُ الْمُلْكُ ۖ لَا إِلَٰهَ إِلَّا هُوَ ۖ فَأَنَّىٰ تُصْرَفُونَ )

          He created you from one self (consciousness). Then He made from it its mate, and He produced for you from the grazing livestock eight mates.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Of course. The Abrahamic religions as a whole are completely bullshit. You have to understand that they all got their core stories from The Sumerians, Babylonians and Akkadians. Why else do you think they all started in the middle east? They're all based on plagiarism. I'm familiar with the quran as I had to study it briefly along with the talmund, torah and the bible so I can see the similarities between their stories and the Sumerians'. The quran specifically was like going through a guilt trip. It was very uncomfortable to read and yet it was clear evidence of the plagiarism that took place.

        Allah which is another name for this abrahamic god, has very clear contradictory attributes. This is present in all abrahamic books. In one verse, he's good, in another he's a savage. I remember a couple of verses in the quran specifically, saying that he even smited his enemies. How could the creator of everything even have enemies? It doesn't make sense. Until you realize that this abrahamic god is none other than Enlil. A Sumerian deity who hated humans, saw them as slaves and was supremely evil. In the quran again, it tells you, you are a slave to Allah. In the Torah and the Old Testament, he committed atrocities against people. He approved slavery, approved killing others if they don't bow down to him. This ain't the creator of the universe. This homosexual is Enlil.

        Examples of plagiarism are Adam and Eve story which was taken from Enki and Ninhursag, Noah and the flood which was taken from The Epic Of Atra-Hasis, Creation in general was taken from the 7 tablets of creation, Genesis 1 was taken from Namma myth, Moses' story was taken from The Legend of Sargon and in fact the entirety of the israeli stories which Christianity and Islam took heaps from, were written by few Israelites who were exiled to Babylon and based their stories on the Babylonian cuneiforms.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous
          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Mocking the only person who's done real research
            Remember that obscurantists like this one not only seek to torture those who expose their lies in literal unending fire but also burned so many books that we have to search around like rogue archivists for hidden truth in a supposed age of information

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          I like hermeticism.
          Abracucks can never accept what you wrote even when its provably true.
          They make a strawman and argue with that because thats how they’ve been taught to deal with it.
          Then call you an athiest.
          Im no athiest I think there is some kind of god but its beyond our comprehension. The religions of the world are inventions by man to enslave the minds of other men

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            I don't accept his point because it is a weak-ass argument. One simply does not argue with low tier shtitters.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            >weak-ass argument
            His argument is probably the biggest argument against the abrahamic religions. You don't accept it because you're an educated moron who lives in delusion. You simply don't like the fact that your entire worldview is based on lies.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            *un

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous
          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            >biggest
            Post something beautiful, and I will concede.

            You simply can't. It's impossible for those that go against God to make beauty

        • 4 months ago
          Inversion

          >> The tower is a parable to Enlightenment.
          The tower myth is about a knowledge lost and separated through different civilization / culture.

          That knowledge is about consciousness. Could be consciousness be another law of the natural order, but who will keep this secret would be too powerful so the knowledge was destroyed / divided. The knowledge we have now could be only the tip of the iceberg with a Santa story on top.

          Who was Moses ? A orphan israelite find on the river and became Pharaoh, then left to be slave and flee Egypt. Moses had a huge impact on israeli history and knowledge.

          Amen cam from Amun a Sun God Egyptian God : the Hidden One, who was the human incarnation of Aten on Earth. If your combine both name you have : Atmen word near Atman from Hinduism. (Coincidence?) The hindu need to balance 7 Chakras to attain full enlightenment : Atman. In ancient Egyptian Religion you were born Beast-man and you needed to pass 7 trial to attain the full enlightenment : Divine-man, the infinite-man.

          • 4 months ago
            Inversion

            israelite need to reject the 7 deadly sin to attain the title of righteous one and can enter the kingdom of God.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            aten was the fake demiurge masquerading as the top god. he wasnt the top god at all

  3. 4 months ago
    Inversion

    (OP)
    Because God is not what most people think it is. If you knew the truth most religious people would be on suicide watch. We live in an Era were you can follow God or not isn't mandatory but recommended.

    God always forgives, because God is the Word, God is a Law.
    (If you deviate from the path then comeback, he will forgive you again.)

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      God bless you

  4. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Because
    1. they made you
    2. they dont put up with your bullshit
    3. they're real, so dont treat them as unreal or be rude to them when you meet

    You really need to understand respect and that someone that powerful, even if they're willing to help and save you with all their might. Wont let you insult them.

    God doesn't even like us demi-gods fighting with each-other for fun. They can be pretty serious sometimes, but a lot of fun also.

  5. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Also, the places we have been can be really really psychologically horrifying. and thats only a basic punishment from God. That's God saying "look what its like without me"
    And all of us are like "wow, how did you ever make it through that, im sorry I was heinous. Thank you for being there."

  6. 4 months ago
    Inversion

    You can see God as a radio wave, by believing in him you tune your consciousness on his wave length, if everyone does the same, everyone is One. But if you sin you lose the synchronicity, so if you repent and tune again you'll be part of God again, that's why:

    God always forgives, because God is the Word, God is a Law.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      He doesn't always forgive but he wont ever destroy everything out of rage. There will be scapegoats or whatever. It's like this, imagine you build a minecraft city and the minecraft villagers piss u off, u wouldn't just destroy the entire game of minecraft, yeah, u'd feel powerful for like 0.1 seconds then what? it's fricking stupid. U'd most likely channel ur rage into a group of scapegoat villagers and the debt is cleared. Everybody else is happy and life goes on. Destroying everything isn't good for anything.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        "channel rage" is a bad way to word it btw. Don't take what I say at face value. In fact, don't even worry trying to desipher anything I say. People just don't understand. Dont worry. It's never the 'end of the world armagedon everybody dies ahhhhhh'

        im just gonna stop talking. it leads to more confusion than if Im just silent. carry on with ur lives.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >U'd most likely channel ur rage into a group of scapegoat villagers and the debt is cleared. Everybody else is happy and life goes on. Destroying everything isn't good for anything.

        i don't think that God will do that, he won't kill some villagers for pure rage, he will destroy the entire planet as well and clear it up then create a better villagers that won't do that to him

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >He doesn't always forgive but he wont ever destroy everything out of rage.
        That is your own repression of anger and rage and a projection that you apply to god as a proxy for your own spiritual act of thought and intention when things get bad as a way to protect the innocent of your ego.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Because most religions were made by men to control other men. Hell, punishment and all that shit is pure fear-mongering propaganda. It doesn't exist. The truth about god can only be seen through DMT or Ayahuasca. Nothing else. Because you will actually see it and experience God and you'll clearly see it's nothing like what those desert homosexuals said. What men say about it is pure bullshit. Every single so called holy book is bullshit too. Don't follow religions because all you're gonna end up with is an entirely false dogma that's gonna lock your brain in place and will not allow you to critically think.

      That was one of many examples that I won't go over unless someone is interested. What I wana know is can I see/find god without being handcuffed by a religious belif, or is god only reachable through some religious approach. I m kinda failing to understand what 2nd reply really meant.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      I loved your description anon, i hope God bless you with more wisdom so you can amuze us even more

  7. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why does my mistress make me lick her feet? Why do I comply? We come into this world with a veil of ignorance but it can slowly be removed with the right training. You realize typically most souls sign up for earth to do something like pic related.

  8. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    All religions are man-made, even if divinely-inspired attributes may be present in them to some extent. All contradictions and inconsistencies present in religions, which are so often used as arguments against the existence of God and the hereafter, are purely human blunders.

    God does not punish anyone or anything, no matter what. It is ridiculous to think that the almighty creator, who is perfection incarnate, goes out of His way to bring harm onto a specific creature because they did not abide by some arbitrary creeds and customs.

    The truth is that God is indeed most merciful, but there is no punishment, nor is there any hell as you know it, and that indeed living a "sin-free" life is more important than the fake worship that the vast majority of religions encourage.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Thanks Anon.

  9. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Becauze God is pure. Like a kid.

    Over-power kid.

  10. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    It’s a trap

  11. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    only those who knew of the Word and CHOSE disbelief are damned to Hell. the existence of guilt shows that we up until the moment of sin we had a choice to do good. also Islam is fake, follow Christ.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

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  12. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    God is not an external manifestation person/being that looks upon you and asks you verbally "worship me."
    God is the reason for all beings and manifestations.
    God is the reason you are able to read this and contemplate it.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >God is not an external manifestation person/being that looks upon you and asks you verbally "worship me."

      God is an external manifestation that looks upon you and want you to "serve him."
      God is the reason for all beings and manifestations.
      God is the reason you are able to read this and contemplate it.

  13. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    cause we all worship demons not the gods

  14. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    God: source of life and being
    Worship: a sign of Love
    God: is Love.

  15. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    The being you call God is an Asura, a race of beings known as the "jealous gods." Normally they are forbidden from interacting with this plane.

  16. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    abrahamic monotheism =/= religion

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Well. It's a fact. They can never be multiple "best".

  17. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Religion is evil

  18. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    It has to do with submitting to the divine will. In realjty, all the roles being played here are your source. It means trusting that source and having faith that this moment is exactly what needs to happen to get you where you need to be.

  19. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    If you don't follow the law you will fall into realms full of beings who also don't follow it like yourself. Since they don't follow any particular morals they won't have any qualms about taking advantage of you and your naivete and leading you further astray.
    Its not that god makes you suffer or send you to hell, its more like if you are no longer following his covenant or under his protection you are more at the mercy of whatever powerful forces dominate the arena of your life and soul.
    You think you are a victim in this as an earth human, but your soul is far far older than your human life and it likely sees whatever path that you take as a viable means of advancing its own understanding of itself and its existence, and doesn't really have any sense of fear for hell because it will outlive any sense of hell you encounter. Your ego on the other hand... probably won't fare so well under the shadow of evil, but what kind of mercy do you expect if you don't ask for it?

  20. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Tribal cohesion

  21. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I have a better question. Why would you not want to worship the creator of the entire universe? Are you stupid?

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      I have a better question, why would a god make hell and mention it more than mentioning heaven "in some religions" this is just completely against the idea of god. Punisher is not one of god's names. Why does he create an entire realm just to torture human souls? If I worship a god I'll worship a completely merciful god, not a punisher.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        so you get scared and sin less, God hate sinners and love them at the same time

        by sinning you make yourself stray from God or someone else which God is probably not proud of

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          how does punishing make ur god merciful

  22. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    thats only abrahamic faiths. hindu gods never did that. other gods never did that. only you stupid christians islams and israelites who made up ur shit anyway. its not real

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