Why do Catholics harp on about how we need the Church and the Pope's authority, but then shit like pic rel exists.

Why do Catholics harp on about how we need the Church and the Pope's authority, but then shit like pic rel exists.

>But the Church issued some statement against it
Well apparently the actual Catholics of Mexico don't care because they still participate in this demon worship.

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  1. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    That's not Catholic. That's Santa Muerte, worshipped by some cartels. A lot dabble in weird Santeria type crap as well. It's all mockery of Catholicism. Ever been bombarded with cartel gore? You think those people are Christians?

  2. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Catholics are polytheists, simple as

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      You wouldn't have the Apostle's or Nicene Creed without Catholics, which declares One God.
      Trying to blame Catholics for pagan Sinaloa type cartel crap is dumb even by this board's standards.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        did you pray to Mary and the patron saint of going on the computer before you made this post anon? I hope you did or that's 1000 years in purgatory (plus tip)

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          Purgatory is a purging. It is more of a condition than a place. And you should get purging now too. It starts right here on earth. As Jesus said, build your treasure in heaven and let go of your attachment to the World. Get out of this little ego space you reside in where you think you're funny. It's not going to be funny forever. Get a head start and wise up. Those who mock the war on sin are just setting themselves up for something worse. St. Paul tells you this himself, despite all the lies that Protestants project on him about "faith alone":

          >Now if anyone builds on this foundation with gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, straw, each one’s work will become clear; for the Day will declare it, because it will be revealed by fire; and the fire will test each one’s work, of what sort it is. If anyone’s work which he has built on it endures, he will receive a reward. If anyone’s work is burned, he will suffer loss; but he himself will be saved, yet so as through fire.-1 Cor 3:12-15
          The Word of the Lord. Thanks be to God. Mock it at your own demise.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yes, punishment in purgatory is temporal, it is for those who died in a state of grace still with guilt for post-baptismal venial sin and/or the temporal punishment due for both mortal and venial sin, it completes final sanctification for the departed faithful by expiation, and sanctifies one to be able to be in the presence of the holy God in heaven with the Church Triumphant.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Purgatory is a purging
            A purging of sin? Did Jesus not already pay for that on the cross?

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yes, but salvation can be lost after initial justification in baptism. Faithful Christians who have died not reaching final justification must undergo a period of expiation if their souls are to be in the presence of God in heaven.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            Jesus opened up the Way of Life and graces his Church with the Spirit of God, in order to fight evil and follow him. Jesus told you nothing about being passive in this great work.
            >Then Jesus told his disciples, “If anyone would come after me, let him deny himself and take up his cross and follow me. For whoever would save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for my sake will find it. For what will it profit a man if he gains the whole world and forfeits his soul? Or what shall a man give in return for his soul?-Matthew 16:24-26
            Christ enables us to take up our own crosses, but we still must do it. Whatever that may be, it'll differ among us in some ways.

            >Yes
            So did Jesus pay for some of your sins or all of them? If all of them then what is purgatory purging, already paid for sins? And if some of them then what was the point of Jesus dying on the cross. All souls or even just the elect souls could go through purgatory without any need of Jesus dying.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            Jesus Christ's death pays the debt for all sin, this doesn't mean salvation cannot be lost. The logical end of your reasoning leads to antinominaism, after all if Jesus's died for all my sins, why not keep sinning, he will still forgive me. That's not how this works, as works are necessary for sanctification and an increase in justification and merit. But Jesus's death does cover all sin, and if one repents and comes to Christ in his holy Church they can always be forgiven, even if they stray, it is freely offered to all everywhere all the time.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Jesus Christ's death pays the debt for all sin
            So purgatory is purging already payed for sins. That makes sense.

            >after all if Jesus's died for all my sins, why not keep sinning, he will still forgive me.
            If you believe in Jesus then you would follow his commandments.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            >So purgatory is purging already payed for sins. That makes sense.
            Stop strawmanning I never said that at all. I said Jesus's death pays for all sins, whether murder, idolatry, apostasy. Anyone who sins, which is all of us, can be forgiven by God.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            Jesus opened up the Way of Life and graces his Church with the Spirit of God, in order to fight evil and follow him. Jesus told you nothing about being passive in this great work.
            >Then Jesus told his disciples, “If anyone would come after me, let him deny himself and take up his cross and follow me. For whoever would save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for my sake will find it. For what will it profit a man if he gains the whole world and forfeits his soul? Or what shall a man give in return for his soul?-Matthew 16:24-26
            Christ enables us to take up our own crosses, but we still must do it. Whatever that may be, it'll differ among us in some ways.

  3. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/disobedience

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      So what is the point of the Pope's authority if people just disobey it anyway?

  4. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Santa Muerte is a Indigenous American idol that is rejected by holy mother Church. Those who invoke her are breaking the first commandment and are guilty of the mortal sin of idolatry and need to repent and go to confession. It is a mortal sin to pray to Santa Muerte or invoke her in any sense, Santa Muerte is an idol. Perhaps it is even a demon pretending to be a saint, after all it is the "personification" of death. Death is regarded as contrary to the will of God in the holy Catholic faith and something Jesus has defeated, not elevated.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Death and Original Sin are one and the same. And none would teach the destruction of Original Sin without Catholics first teaching them either.
      Trying to bundle Saint Death anywhere near Catholics can't be serious. I refuse to believe it's at that level now.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        Original sin is a result of Adam's children inheriting the punishment due for his sin, which led to the fall of man. Death is one of those consequences. Death is both spiritual and physical, first spiritual death was wrought "in the same day you eat of it you will surely die" as well as physical death. Just as the spiritual death of one introduced physical death into the world, so too does Christ's death not only do away with physical death (realized in the world to come) so too does it redeem from spiritual death, and babies are redeemed when they are baptized in the name of the Trinity for example.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      God had an angel of death as one of the plagues of Egypt, didn't he?

      I don't think it was a woman though.

  5. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why do they say we need the pope's authority then turn around and reject the current pope because they don't like what he says?

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's not Catholic in the first place. The pope is not the head of pagans. He doesn't command them anymore than telling them to follow Christ, like any other outsiders. The thread is stupid.

  6. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Native American Paganism mixed with Christianity
    >:(
    >European Paganism mixed with Christianity
    >:O

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      The Catholic notions of the 'mother of God' and the 'queen of heaven', although later than the New Testament, point to much earlier historical-religious roots in the East. . . . In the later veneration of Mary, there are many traces of the pagan cult of the divine mother. ”

      These tracks are too numerous and detailed to be coincident. The similarity between the Mother and Child statues of the Virgin Mary and the statues of pagan goddesses, such as Isis, cannot go unnoticed. The hundreds of statues and icons of the Black Madonna in Catholic churches around the world cannot help but evoke the statue of Artemis. The work Théo — Nouvelle encyclopédie catholique says about these Black Virgins: “They seem to have been a means of transferring to Mary what remained of popular devotion to Diana [Artemis]....or Cybele. ” The processions on the Day of the Assumption of the Virgin Mary also find their prototype in the processions in honor of Cybele and Artemis.

      The very titles given to Mary remind us of pagan mother goddesses. Ishtar was hailed as the "Holy Virgin", "my lady" and "the merciful mother who hears prayers". Isis and Astarte were called "Queen of Heaven". Cybele was called "Mother of all the Blessed". All of these titles, with slight variations, are applied to Mary.

      >inb4 Coping with Logos Spermatikos concept

      The concept of your universal god that permeates the universe was Plato’s idea. Introduced to the Canaanite goat frickers by Philo of Alexandria and later intertwined into Christianity by Aquinas using Aristotle’s metaphysical theories to explain Plato’s “pagan” concept. Logos is a pagan concept, logos spermatikos. Predating even judaism.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mummu

  7. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    One of the rules of the Bible:
    >Thou shalt not kill
    However, in Medellin there is a reso that the hitmen do before killing anyone that says like this.
    >If they have eyes, they should not see me, if they have hands, they should not grab me. If they have feet, they can't reach me. Do not allow them to surprise me from behind, do not allow my death to be violent, do not allow my blood to be spilled. You who know everything, know about my sins, but you also know about my faith, do not forsake me... Amen

  8. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    it's okay as long as it does not interfere with the trinity, also for non-catholics the entire church admin is run by jesuits now who are actual, unironic communists that tolerate all of this so long as mexicans keep breeding and speaking mexican. The only thing that matters is demographics and a third of mexico believes in this, and it's the same group that will rally for the church and riot when their local officials try to have a gay wedding or make a priest pay taxes on his cars

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      >it's okay as long as it does not interfere with the trinity
      Except it isn't. The Catholic Church has always stomped down on unofficial saints, and this isn't even normal saint veneration, but straight up idolatry.

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