Why do atheists completely ignore the issue of suffering?

Why do atheists completely ignore the issue of suffering? They always act like the world was a peaceful place before religion existed when in reality it has always been really shitty. If you bring up this fact they get uncomfortable because it goes against their BS hippy outlook, when in reality the worlds always been a struggle and religion can be a useful coping mechnism.

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  1. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    >They always act like the world was a peaceful place before religion existed
    No I don't
    >If you bring up this fact they get uncomfortable because it goes against their BS hippy outlook
    I don't have that outlook though
    > when in reality the worlds always been a struggle and religion can be a useful coping mechnism.
    Cool. Good for you. I just personally don't believe in it. You do you man

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      >I'm not like the other atheists
      Don't care. I'm talking about the ones prevalent in modern society.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        Atheist prevalent in society here. No we don't think the world was peaceful before religion. Which moronic YouTube apologetics channel did you get that from?

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        You mean you are talking about the idea of atheists youve invented in your mind. Meds, touch grass, go outside, etc.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        I don’t think I’ve ever heard anyone say “life was so much more peaceful before religion”

  2. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    >how do modern people even believe this shit lmao. Imagine believing in fairy tales lol do religitards even think? the organized nature of reality, mathematics, logic, identity over time, consciousness, the mind, meaning, language, they're all just accidents bro. everything is meaningless idiot, except for this sentence of course and everything I'm saying. we're here because there was nothingness and then stuff decided to happen and then chaotic randomness occurred but if you do it for long enough you end up with perfectly ordered conditions necessary for human flourishing. I believe in SCIENCE idiot, that means you use evidence directly gathered through experimentation and sense data. thats why the Big Bang is so obvious idiot, energy can be neither created not destroyed dummy. It's all just an accident though because when we die we go back to NOTHINGNESS and our mind and soul just dissappear because they came from nothing remember haha do you even think

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      There are two kinds of people in this world: people who, if offered the choice, would want to know the exact date and time of their inevitable death, and people who wouldn't.

      If you enjoy believing a comforting lie because a structure helps you cope, you're one of the second group of people. But for many other people, there is just as much comfort (if not more) in that harsh but undeniable truth.

      POV: you had a staring contest with the Abyss and blinked first

  3. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    We have anime girls to cope with now.

  4. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Projection

  5. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Most atheists don't see religion as the cause of all of humanity's problems, only a few vocal idiots do. Most atheists have no problem with Christianity, they just don't think it's any more real than say how you regard the faith of the ancient Aztecs. They see Jesus as you see Quetzalcoatl

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Idk I was thinking of this skit and how many agreed with it. Comments for reference

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      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        [...]

        Of course, Family Guy. I think this is from the 10th season or some shit? Where to i start with this?
        >implies that Christianity was the first religion
        >implies that there was no violence before Jesus's birth
        >implies all wars are caused by religion
        As for the youtube comments, i guess this just proves that anyone can be a moron, regardless of whether or not they believe in god.

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          Dumbass, the point of the link isn't if the clip is right or not. The point is that people resonate with the message.

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          >implies that Christianity was the first religion
          >implies that there was no violence before Jesus's birth
          >implies all wars are caused by religion
          Jack Chick and a large number of Christians agree with all of these statements.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        Maybe reformulate your question as "why do atheists in the youtube comments of a video that promotes a specific idea endorse this idea".
        moron.

  6. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    "the world has always been shitty" is actually something the atheists are very keen on pointing out, as it's kind of central to the one argument in favor of strong atheism: the Problem of Evil

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      How do atheists explain the existence of evil if good and evil don't actually exist?

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        You’re going to have to be more specific

  7. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    >he world was a peaceful place before religion existed
    you either are being disingenuous or just lying by omission, only redditors could think something as stupid specially considering that religions appeared with humans (remember the huge genetical differences that basically imply the existence of at least 3 human species in actuality)

  8. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    God could've created a world without violence, scarcity, sorrow and suffering AND STILL have humans with free will.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      >God could've created a world without violence AND STILL have humans with free will.
      how?

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        Smiting the bad genetics.

  9. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Guy if you just outright told me you use religion as a coping mechanism and didn’t try to push it on me or berate me for not needing it, I would not care and I would not bother you about it.
    It’s only when it’s pushed on me or I get shit on for not needing it that I push back.
    Believe what you want, just don’t try and pull me into your fantasy world.

  10. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    >They always act like the world was a peaceful place before religion existed

  11. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's literally the opposite.

  12. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    I don't think any atheist has ever made that argument, you literally made up a fantasy in your head to get mad about. In fact it's usually the opposite, atheists use suffering as evidence that we weren't created by a loving God.

  13. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Practiced religion was in the way for actual cures because it had become a means of power.
    Atheism actually allows people to believe in times of need as well as celebrating religious holidays.

  14. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm an atheist but I agree suffering is a problem it's why I'm antinatalist

  15. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    >before religion existed
    when was that exactly

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Perhaps before homosexual Erectus appeared?

  16. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Atheists often use the argument from poor design against the idea of a benevolent god though.

  17. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    >and religion can be a useful coping mechnism
    So you just said it, utilitarianism. Other things can be used.

  18. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Because they are BROWBEATEN by suffering
    Some people are slaves because they’re just followers, but you can make slaves by beating them into submission

    When atheists say “uhhh you need a magical sky daddy to make you feel better!?!?!!?” it’s actually a cope. Like yeah, when shit goes wrong and you would seek a parent for comfort, you can rely on spiritual wisdom to get you through whatever problems you might have. How can you shame someone for having a positive relationship with a father figure? Clearly atheists are just compensating for the fact that they’re miserable, and if they’re miserable then that must mean everyone is miserable

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      You think Atheists are miserable because you're a coward. You see people bravely going about their day, comfortable with the idea of their inevitable demise, and it's so completely unfathomable to you that you say "ah, clearly they must be merely pretending."

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        Most atheists aren't comfortable with the idea of their inevitable demise though, they just can't do anything about it.

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          They make peace with it. Those that don't convert, or they become "spiritual but not religious."

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          Tbh any afterlife that doesn't lead to eventual annihilation of the soul/essence/whatever sounds way worse than no afterlife.

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          Let’s put it this way anon, I don’t have to lie to myself that I’m not going to die one day by pretending I believe in some religion with an afterlife in the story.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            I don't lie to myself and actually believe what I preach. I would continue to worship God even if he told me there was no afterlife, although I would be a bit bummed out about it.

            Tbh any afterlife that doesn't lead to eventual annihilation of the soul/essence/whatever sounds way worse than no afterlife.

            Eh, I believe we will be revived in a state that can exist in peace with eternal life.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            Sure man, just saying I don’t need any of that and neither do tons of people. If you adjusted your lifestyle you probably wouldn’t either.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            I respect the beliefs of non-believers because you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink. But no, it is a deeply held belief that I couldn't abandon even if I wanted to. Deep, deep down, I am more certain that Jesus died for my sins and rose from the dead than I am of most things.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            Alright if you say so man.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            >I believe we will be revived in a state that can exist in peace with eternal life.
            To me that sounds implausible, but regardless it's just saying "hey this totally shit thing won't be totally shit". It may not be terrible, but I still don't see the appeal.
            Wanting to exist forever is baffling to me.

  19. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Quite literally cope

  20. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Religion addresses and reduces human suffering

    Dude what? I'm religious btw.

  21. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Why do atheists completely ignore the issue of suffering? They always act like the world was a peaceful place before religion existed
    I don't think any Atheist would posit this seriously and if they did, they're a massive moron. They say "Well nothing really matters" and for some reason, the conclusion most people come when that's said is "Well that's kinda bleak he must have meant it in a 🙁 way I can't cope with that mindset" but what it really means is "Nothing matters. It doesn't matter if Stacy rejects you on that date. It doesn't matter if you die 1 morbillion dollars in debt. It doesn't matter that you'll eventually die one day so why even worry about it, just do whatever you want lol". And that's the part a lot of people just don't grasp or dont want to because they're not promised a reward for simply having existed.

  22. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Why do atheists completely ignore the issue of suffering?
    >nooo, why do atheists bring up the problem of suffering when christards have no answer to it?
    have a nice day.

  23. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    there was no time when religions did not exist. it's the manifestation of an ancient human, indeed pre-human flaw. even chimpanzees show rudiments of religion.

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