Why do Abrahamists ignore the fact that they just worship fragments of Ancient Egyptian religion (which is probably just from something even older)?

Why do Abrahamists ignore the fact that they just worship fragments of Ancient Egyptian religion (which is probably just from something even older)? You're not even getting the full picture with these religions. And so much of Abrahamism was designed to just be a tool for power. How can this be in any way a genuine belief system?

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  1. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Nope. The ethnic faiths actually adhere to fragments of the Catholic Faith. Hope this helps.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Why do catholics talk like leftists?

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        Because Christianity was a beta-version of bolshevism.

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          >muh history begins in the 18th century
          the new world has been a cancer on humanity

  2. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    henotheists which is basically polytheism and they think they are monotheists, to top it all off the founder, abraham, was ready to murder his son for a bloodthirsty disembodied voice. And all three religions nowadays believe in some weird modern fairytale version that ignores half the shit thats actually in their own book

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      >'x'-theism
      if all of you were banished to another planet tomorrow, the world would not suffer, in fact it would not even notice

  3. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Kino. Way too many '''coincidences''' like this for there not to be something in it.

    Panbabylonism is a kino theory and makes perfect sense.
    >Tales based on stars
    >Kings & Star characters -> Revered Kings with Legitimacy
    >Legendary kings & great natural events -> Gods
    >Spread of Gods -> Multiple Pantheons
    >Eventual War -> Pantheons Conflict
    >Conflict Pantheons -> 1 God winning

    The modern day equivalent is business.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      henotheists which is basically polytheism and they think they are monotheists, to top it all off the founder, abraham, was ready to murder his son for a bloodthirsty disembodied voice. And all three religions nowadays believe in some weird modern fairytale version that ignores half the shit thats actually in their own book

      Why to larpagans talk about their religion like it's 40k lore?

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        im not a pagan or an atheist, and i dont have to be to point out how moronic abrahamic religions and their adherents are

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          >you've never debated someone like me before
          Have you considered that maybe it's you who's moronic?

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            How am i moronic? i just pointed out that abrahamists' tradition was started by a child murderer and that their religions are henotheistic. Is that incorrect?
            this is not a debate cuz you havent actually said anything yet
            go ahead and defend your dusty desert book that lets you get away with raping infant goys

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            >How am i moronic?
            See

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        Why do leftists and abrahaboos always go into midwit childish insults without addressing the actual point?
        Its almost like you can't even articulate for your own moronic beliefs, because subconsciously you know that "larpagans" are correct.

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          >buzzword buzzword buzzword [schizo babble] buzzword buzzword [schizo babble]
          >Why doesn't anyone take me seriously?

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Why do Abrahamists ignore the fact that they just worship fragments of Ancient Egyptian religion
        Because that is complete bullshit. This is coming from a guy that hates the abrahamic faiths.

        >Kino. Way too many '''coincidences''' like this for there not to be something in it.
        >Panbabylonism is a kino theory and makes perfect sense.
        based on stars
        & Star characters -> Revered Kings with Legitimacy
        kings & great natural events -> Gods
        of Gods -> Multiple Pantheons
        War -> Pantheons Conflict
        Pantheons -> 1 God winning
        Those are the most vague "similarities" you could possibly come up with.
        This is why Proto-Indo-Europeanism is complete theoretical bullshit.
        1) There is zero evidence for a Proto-Indo-European culture or ethnicity.
        2) Proto-Indo-Europeanism relies on extremely vague and broad linguistic/religious similarities from people that clearly don't know anything about the religions they're comparing past one paragraph descriptions.
        3) The theory is very popular with mentally ill people and eclectic theosophists, crystal magic people who enjoy just combining religions from around the world into one spectacular piece of shit. A theory that appeals to idiots is very likely an incorrect theory.

        > Take anglicized translated English word
        > Split into three sections
        > Letters happen to mean something in a completely unrelated concept
        > This thing really this thing

        Next you’ll tell me that Christians stole their holidays from Pagans, and that Easter is a corrupted version of a celebration of “the god Ishtar”

        Fricking Dharmagay cope. Take your cyclical time and stick it up your ass

        >buzzword buzzword buzzword [schizo babble] buzzword buzzword [schizo babble]
        >Why doesn't anyone take me seriously?

        Can't tell if this is a genuine religious schizo or just someone false-flagging as one.

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Can't tell if this is a genuine religious schizo or just someone false-flagging as one.
          You just mentioned three different people anon.

          > you are mentally ill and autistic for acknowledging something majority of historians now recognize conventionally
          At this point, to paraphrase Hank Hill, you are not making Christianity cooler, son, you are just making this board worse.

          >At this point, to paraphrase Hank Hill, you are not making Christianity cooler, son, you are just making this board worse.
          I'm not Christian an no, the majority of historians don't consider Judaism or Christianity as offshoots of Egyptian religion.
          You are literally just pulling shit out of your ass.
          From 3150BC to 1353BC (1,797 years)
          Egypt was Polytheistic.
          From 1353BC to 1336BC ( 17 years )
          Egypt was monotheistic Atenism.
          From 1336BC to 0AD ( 1,336 years )
          Egypt was polytheistic again.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            >From 1353BC to 1336BC
            > Egypt was monotheistic Atenism.
            That's around time when judaism was forming, anon.
            It does check out.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            >That's around time when judaism was forming, anon.
            >It does check out.
            No, your theory doesn't check out anon...

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            It does show that judaism came to exist round around time when Egypt had its Monotheism period.
            I mean denying that is like saying Earth is 5000 years old like most abrahamists believe.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            >It does show that judaism came to exist round around time when Egypt had its Monotheism period.
            No it doesn't lol.
            The first evidence for Judaism existing is around 580BC thanks to the Ketef Hinnom scrolls.
            That's 756 years after the abandonment of Egyptian Atenism.

            >the egg symbolism is Christian
            eh, no it's not. That's pagan too, it was used to symbolize the physical, material world (which they considered to be feminine in aspect, since all life springs from the female of the species).

            Though that isn't to say the Christians didn't take an older symbol and adapt/mutilate it to their own purpose.

            Christians stole pretty much everything from older "pagan" religions and traditions, just as the israelites stole from older religions and traditions.

            When you've a deep enough understanding of comparative religion, all the religions both pagan and Abrahamic, start to blend into one. Which is pretty hilarious considering how much they LOATHE each other.

            >eh, no it's not. That's pagan too, it was used to symbolize the physical, material world (which they considered to be feminine in aspect, since all life springs from the female of the species).
            Lol wtf?
            what gods, what culture, what time etc...

            >the egg symbolism is Christian
            eh, no it's not. That's pagan too, it was used to symbolize the physical, material world (which they considered to be feminine in aspect, since all life springs from the female of the species).

            Though that isn't to say the Christians didn't take an older symbol and adapt/mutilate it to their own purpose.

            Christians stole pretty much everything from older "pagan" religions and traditions, just as the israelites stole from older religions and traditions.

            When you've a deep enough understanding of comparative religion, all the religions both pagan and Abrahamic, start to blend into one. Which is pretty hilarious considering how much they LOATHE each other.

            >Christians stole pretty much everything from older "pagan" religions and traditions, just as the israelites stole from older religions and traditions.
            They definitely borrowed some stuff, but most of their crap originated from them.

            >the egg symbolism is Christian
            eh, no it's not. That's pagan too, it was used to symbolize the physical, material world (which they considered to be feminine in aspect, since all life springs from the female of the species).

            Though that isn't to say the Christians didn't take an older symbol and adapt/mutilate it to their own purpose.

            Christians stole pretty much everything from older "pagan" religions and traditions, just as the israelites stole from older religions and traditions.

            When you've a deep enough understanding of comparative religion, all the religions both pagan and Abrahamic, start to blend into one. Which is pretty hilarious considering how much they LOATHE each other.

            >When you've a deep enough understanding of comparative religion
            Lol, you don't have a deep understanding in anything. You're an idiot ok. You will always be an idiot.

            [...]
            Let me guess, you also believe that Earth is 5000 years old and that dino bones were placed into the ground by Satan to test your faith?

            >Let me guess, you also believe that Earth is 5000 years old
            Your alternative history is just as stupid as creationism anon.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            >what gods, what culture, what time etc...
            Bachofen in his book "Mother Right" describes the symbolism of the egg and its use by pre-Judaic cultures in Syria, Turkey, Egypt. The egg symbolism predates Christianity by a couple thousands of years, but it's cute how Christians think no one will notice if they steal imagery from pagan cultures.

            (will post two pics from book i'm referring to that prove the Egg was used in religious symbolism LONG before Christians stole it)

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            second pic. Text is from "Mother Right" by Bachofen

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            > You just mentioned three different people anon.
            Don’t bother telling him that. People like him refuse to accept the fact that multiple people could disagree with them. They imagine every person who contradicts them collectively as one person

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Why do Abrahamists ignore the fact that they just worship fragments of Ancient Egyptian religion
      Because that is complete bullshit. This is coming from a guy that hates the abrahamic faiths.

      >Kino. Way too many '''coincidences''' like this for there not to be something in it.
      >Panbabylonism is a kino theory and makes perfect sense.
      based on stars
      & Star characters -> Revered Kings with Legitimacy
      kings & great natural events -> Gods
      of Gods -> Multiple Pantheons
      War -> Pantheons Conflict
      Pantheons -> 1 God winning
      Those are the most vague "similarities" you could possibly come up with.
      This is why Proto-Indo-Europeanism is complete theoretical bullshit.
      1) There is zero evidence for a Proto-Indo-European culture or ethnicity.
      2) Proto-Indo-Europeanism relies on extremely vague and broad linguistic/religious similarities from people that clearly don't know anything about the religions they're comparing past one paragraph descriptions.
      3) The theory is very popular with mentally ill people and eclectic theosophists, crystal magic people who enjoy just combining religions from around the world into one spectacular piece of shit. A theory that appeals to idiots is very likely an incorrect theory.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        oh no IEcel sisters… its over…

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          >oh no IEcel sisters… its over…
          Why are talking like a troony.
          Oh, because you're an autistic troony...

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Because that is complete bullshit. This is coming from a guy that hates the abrahamic faiths.
        The ancient Egyptian cult of atenism is literally the oldest form of monotheism.
        And Psalm 11 is almost a 1 to 1 copy of the hymm of aten.

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          >The ancient Egyptian cult of atenism is literally the oldest form of monotheism.
          The first recorded incidence of monotheism.
          The concept is so stupidly simple that the Egyptians definitely weren't the first.
          >And Psalm 11 is almost a 1 to 1 copy of the hymm of aten.
          Yeah, that's simply incorrect.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        Sounds like you should consult other sources then just predditors and youtubers, my guy.

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Sounds like you should consult other sources then just predditors and youtubers, my guy.
          You're the only person that's even mentioned reddit and youtube autistic anon...

          >Christians stole their holidays from Pagans
          Correct.
          Technically so did hebrews, as judaism is just a primitive offshoot of Egyptian monotheism.
          > Easter is a corrupted version of a celebration of “the god Ishtar”
          Only people that think dinosaur bones were placed into ground by satan to test your faith would deny that.

          >Technically so did hebrews, as judaism is just a primitive offshoot of Egyptian monotheism.
          No it isn't mentally ill anon.
          >Only people that think dinosaur bones were placed into ground by satan to test your faith would deny that.
          wtf lol. You are mentally ill. Ishtar has nothing to do with Easter.
          >Medieval Christians not only worshipped trees
          No they didn't...
          >they worshipped mummified human bodyparts lol.
          Of saints, kings or supposed parts of Jesus etc.
          And curiously that isn't biblically supported.
          Because it isn't actually Christian.
          (2 Kings 13:20-21) talks about the skeleton of the holy person Elisha having magical properties but that's about it.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            > you are mentally ill and autistic for acknowledging something majority of historians now recognize conventionally
            At this point, to paraphrase Hank Hill, you are not making Christianity cooler, son, you are just making this board worse.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Abrahamic/Semitic religions are successors of Ancient Semitic Paganism, not Egyptian religion.
      >howdoyouknowthat
      Ancient Egyptian religion gave importance to goddesses like Nut or Hathor, Semitics have masculine gods instead.

      >1 God winning
      Not a thing in ancient polytheism.
      panbabylonists talk like christcucks, try to collect info according to delusions not collecting info and creating a conclusion.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Ur-Monotheism is the correct take

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Ur-Monotheism is the correct take
        How can it be when the city of Ur wasn't
        monotheistic?

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          >he doesn't know about Anu

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            >>he doesn't know about Anu
            They didn't just worship anu...

  4. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Reject false gods, Return to Gilgamesh

  5. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    There's no such thing as Abrahamism.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      >There's no such thing as Abrahamism.
      There's no such thing as sand...

  6. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    This is dumb even by mythicist standards. The Israelites are a breakaway group from Mesopotamia. Not Egypt. And you can see right from the start they don't care to think like Egyptians. They don't even give names to the Sun and Moon, let alone similar names. In Genesis, they're just generically called two great lights, one for the day and the night. No epic tales of Sun fighting a war or some gods shagging and splitting the earth. And there is no Garden of Eden with Egypt. It is Sumerian. And it's inverted in the Israelite version. Instead of the garden being made for the gods and men formed as the jannies, the garden is made for man in the bible and instead of a jannie, he's created in the image of God.
    But somehow you guys convinced yourselves that being the jannies is a good thing instead of having dignity and respect.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's basically the trinity.

      RA != EL != IS

      However, they are all ISRAEL.

      Makes you think.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        Kino. Way too many '''coincidences''' like this for there not to be something in it.

        Panbabylonism is a kino theory and makes perfect sense.
        >Tales based on stars
        >Kings & Star characters -> Revered Kings with Legitimacy
        >Legendary kings & great natural events -> Gods
        >Spread of Gods -> Multiple Pantheons
        >Eventual War -> Pantheons Conflict
        >Conflict Pantheons -> 1 God winning

        The modern day equivalent is business.

        https://i.imgur.com/hddxk0K.jpg

        Why do Abrahamists ignore the fact that they just worship fragments of Ancient Egyptian religion (which is probably just from something even older)? You're not even getting the full picture with these religions. And so much of Abrahamism was designed to just be a tool for power. How can this be in any way a genuine belief system?

        You 1IQ mouthbreathers do realize that that's not how that word was pronounced or spelled in its original language right...?

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          Do you think saying this without substantiating it will convince some morons on here that it's true?

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          By the playbook.
          >1IQ
          Next you'll start speaking about scholars and consensus. Yet never an inch of proof is ever found.

          Curious.

  7. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    > Take anglicized translated English word
    > Split into three sections
    > Letters happen to mean something in a completely unrelated concept
    > This thing really this thing

    Next you’ll tell me that Christians stole their holidays from Pagans, and that Easter is a corrupted version of a celebration of “the god Ishtar”

    Fricking Dharmagay cope. Take your cyclical time and stick it up your ass

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Next you’ll tell me that Christians stole their holidays from Pagans, and that Easter is a corrupted version of a celebration of “the god Ishtar”
      Well there are some interesting things that did come from paganism.
      For example, the Christian tree, holly decorations, yule log etc definitely came from European paganism.
      The English word "easter" was definitely taken from the Saxon God Eostre that is attested to by Einhard and the Venerable Bede.
      So It's a Christian festival that took on a pagan name. The egg symbolism is Christian but the Hare symbolism is definitely pagan.
      The completely illogical and somewhat random claim of Easter coming from Ishtar came from Scottish protestant minister Alexander Hislop in the 1850's.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        > Well there are some interesting things that did come from paganism.
        For example, the Christian tree, holly decorations, yule log etc definitely came from European paganism
        AHHHHHHHHHHHHH
        > The English word "easter" was definitely taken from the Saxon God Eostre that is attested to by Einhard and the Venerable Bede.
        The Latin term Deus (God) has the same etymology root as Jupiter, Zeus, and Dyauspitar. All Pagan Gods from Italy to India. Sky father. Deiwosushsvsgs or whatever the frick and phter.

        Doesn’t mean it has anything to do with paganism. Languages already had a word for “God” or chief god so they used it.
        > The egg symbolism is Christian but the Hare symbolism is definitely pagan.
        Not sure about this. I should also clarify taking holiday decorations from cultures which happened to be pagan before conversion is not the same as incorporating pagan gods of beliefs and its not a form of syncretism.

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          >AHHHHHHHHHHHHH
          Not an argument...

          >The Latin term Deus (God) has the same etymology root as Jupiter, Zeus, and Dyauspitar.
          Wrong...
          Deus is Ecclesiastical Latin for God.
          In classical Latin "deus" refers to male deities and "dea" to female deities.
          The Greek "theos" meaning god is already completely different.
          Yes, the ancient Greek pronunciation of Zeus is similar to the Roman Deus.
          Dyauspitar is way off the mark. Not even remotely related.

          >All Pagan Gods from Italy to India. Sky father. Deiwosushsvsgs or whatever the frick and phter.
          That' complete fictional bullshit.
          An imaginary ancestor of all mythologies and languages simply does not exist.
          Zero archeological evidence.
          >Doesn’t mean it has anything to do with paganism.
          That's completely irrelevant to the fact that the English word for Easter Does from a pagan Saxon god. I'm not saying that the whole tradition came from Pagans, just the name. That's literally what two very early Christians admitted when documenting the celebration.
          >I should also clarify taking holiday decorations from cultures which happened to be pagan before conversion is not the same as incorporating pagan gods of beliefs and its not a form of syncretism.
          Everything you just described is syncretism...

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            > Wrong...
            Deus is Ecclesiastical Latin for God.
            In classical Latin "deus" refers to male deities and "dea" to female deities.
            The Greek "theos" meaning god is already completely different.
            Yes, the ancient Greek pronunciation of Zeus is similar to the Roman Deus.
            Dyauspitar is way off the mark. Not even remotely related.
            > That' complete fictional bullshit.
            An imaginary ancestor of all mythologies and languages simply does not exist.
            Zero archeological evidence.
            COPE.
            > *Dyḗus ph2tḗr
            > Dyáuṣpitṛ́
            > Zeus patēr - Zeus
            > Jupiter - Ju-piter (*Djous patēr)
            Little Black person brain havifn a difficult time recognizing a pattern?

            Why is it called day in English? Can you answer me that? Perhaps it may have something to do with the exact same PIE etymological root? Ohhhhhhh stupid Black person. Why is god called some derivation of Deus in like every Latin-Based language?

            So yes, we did adopt the same word as “Sky-God” (chief god) for God (THE God, the one and true god, the… ohhh wait. chief god).

            Start to make fricking sense now why it was adopted? Adopting words doesn’t mean stealing. That was my entire point the whole time. Word sound similar, or even word has the same route =/= theft or same meaning, just adaptation.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            >COPE.
            So you're a troony lol...
            They are always saying cope, seeth, mald etc.
            >Little Black person brain havifn a difficult time recognizing a pattern?
            Your pattern that's just as stupid as the
            Brahma=Abraham pattern...
            >Why is it called day in English? Can you answer me that? Perhaps it may have something to do with the exact same PIE etymological root?
            It isn't an entomological root.
            There is zero evidence of a proto-Indo-European culture ever existing. No Archeological or genetic evidence. It's just completely made-up.
            >So yes, we did adopt the same word as “Sky-God” (chief god) for God (THE God, the one and true god, the… ohhh wait. chief god).
            The fictional PIE god that never existed because the PIE people never existed.
            >Start to make fricking sense now why it was adopted?
            Nope, you're an idiot mate.
            Stick to making comparisons with things that aren't fictional.

            Nope

            >Nope
            So you have no argument.
            Cheers. I expected that

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            Are you a young earth creationist, arab schizo?

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Are you a young earth creationist, arab schizo?
            Lol...
            I'm not Arab or an Earth creationist.
            And no, I don't think the Earth is flat either.
            You're autistic as frick anon.
            Also once again you still have no valid argument.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            > UHH ACTUALLY HISTORY DIDNT HAPPEN IDIOT
            > ALSO CHRISTIANITY IS PAGAN BECAUSE I SAY SO OKAY! I DONT NEED ANY REASONS IT JUST IS!

            LOOOOOOL gayGGGOOOOOT. Would you like another round of copium, sir?

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            >> UHH ACTUALLY HISTORY DIDNT HAPPEN IDIOT
            >> ALSO CHRISTIANITY IS PAGAN BECAUSE I SAY SO OKAY! I DONT NEED ANY REASONS IT JUST IS!
            >LOOOOOOL gayGGGOOOOOT. Would you like another round of copium, sir?

            Not a valid argument autistic meltdown anon...

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        Also forgot to add the whole “Yule Log” thing is made up. Christmas logs were referred to as such until the late 1800s and had been so for rather long. There is no evidence it has anything to do with Yule. Even if it does, that is fine. People using the log as a decoration/holiday tradition is not paganism/pagan ritual/pagan belief.

        The very idea of Yule being a “Germanic pagan religious festival” as if it isn’t just a winter get-together which took an explicitly irreligious theme. Folk traditions can hardly realistically be called paganism. It’s Puritan level scrutiny

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          Same goes for Christmas tree. You aren’t worshipping the tree, its not pagan, has no roots in European paganism. Another difficult misconception.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Same goes for Christmas tree.
            Lol...
            Christians never worshipped trees...
            The first documented modern type Christmas tree dates from the 1440's and that's predated by the similar Ukranian Didukh and Polish Podłaźniczka that are definitely pagan in origin.

            >Dharmagay cope
            Uh, I hate to break it to you, but Brahma and Abraham are the same thing. You're both artificial fragments of an older religion.

            >Uh, I hate to break it to you, but Brahma and Abraham are the same thing
            No they aren't. You're an idiot anon.

            > But anything people enjoy that can be called good today is "Christian", right...
            I never said that Black person?

            >I never said that Black person?
            That's exactly what you said Black person...

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            Your typing style is familiar, you seem to be coping hard. You're somehow a lot dumber than the Christians here.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Your typing style is familiar, you seem to be coping hard. You're somehow a lot dumber than the Christians here.
            Said the idiot who's logic goes...
            Brahma=Abraham
            Sea=See
            Catapult=capot
            Pray=prey

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            Medieval Christians not only worshipped trees, they worshipped mummified human bodyparts lol.

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Folk traditions can hardly realistically be called paganism
          But anything people enjoy that can be called good today is "Christian", right...

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            > But anything people enjoy that can be called good today is "Christian", right...
            I never said that Black person?

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Also forgot to add the whole “Yule Log” thing is made up. Christmas logs were referred to as such until the late 1800s
          Lol...
          in 1725 Henry Bourne quotes Bede ( once again ) in connection with the ancient practice of Yule logs
          "For Bede tells us, That [sic] this very Night was observed in this Land before, by the Heathen Saxons. They began, says he, their Year on the Eight of the Calenders of January, which is now our Christmas Party: And the very Night before, which is now Holy to us, was by them called Mædrenack, or the Night of the Mothers … The Yule-Clog therefore hath probably been a Part of those Ceremonies which were perform'd that Night's Ceremonies. It seems to have been used, as an Emblem of the return of the Sun, and the lengthening of the Days. For as both December and January were called Guili or Yule, upon Account of the Sun's Returning, and the Increase of the Days; so, I am apt to believe, the Log has had the Name of the Yule-Log"

          >People using the log as a decoration/holiday tradition is not paganism/pagan ritual/pagan belief.
          It literally is...

          >The very idea of Yule being a “Germanic pagan religious festival” as if it isn’t just a winter get-together which took an explicitly irreligious theme.
          Why would it be an Abrahamically religious theme if it's pagan lol.

          >Folk traditions can hardly realistically be called paganism. It’s Puritan level scrutiny
          Lol, wtf. Completely wrong.
          You simply find it hard to admit that the seasonal traditions most loved by people didn't come from Christianity. Because Christianity is depressive, nihilistic and quite frankly an evil joy killer.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            Nope

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        >the egg symbolism is Christian
        eh, no it's not. That's pagan too, it was used to symbolize the physical, material world (which they considered to be feminine in aspect, since all life springs from the female of the species).

        Though that isn't to say the Christians didn't take an older symbol and adapt/mutilate it to their own purpose.

        Christians stole pretty much everything from older "pagan" religions and traditions, just as the israelites stole from older religions and traditions.

        When you've a deep enough understanding of comparative religion, all the religions both pagan and Abrahamic, start to blend into one. Which is pretty hilarious considering how much they LOATHE each other.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Dharmagay cope
      Uh, I hate to break it to you, but Brahma and Abraham are the same thing. You're both artificial fragments of an older religion.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Christians stole their holidays from Pagans
      Correct.
      Technically so did hebrews, as judaism is just a primitive offshoot of Egyptian monotheism.
      > Easter is a corrupted version of a celebration of “the god Ishtar”
      Only people that think dinosaur bones were placed into ground by satan to test your faith would deny that.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        > Correct
        > Technically so did hebrews, as judaism is just a primitive offshoot of Egyptian monotheism.
        > Only people that think dinosaur bones were placed into ground by satan to test your faith would deny that.

        Medieval Christians not only worshipped trees, they worshipped mummified human bodyparts lol.

        > Medieval Christians not only worshipped trees, they worshipped mummified human bodyparts lol.

        r/atheism education

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          > You just mentioned three different people anon.
          Don’t bother telling him that. People like him refuse to accept the fact that multiple people could disagree with them. They imagine every person who contradicts them collectively as one person

          Let me guess, you also believe that Earth is 5000 years old and that dino bones were placed into the ground by Satan to test your faith?

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            No. Neither of those things are Christian beliefs. It’s funny because you so confidently believe myths which have been thoroughly debunked even by explicitly anti-Christian atheist experts. Easter =/= Ishtar, and no Christian ever worshipped a Christmas tree, schizo.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Neither of those things are Christian beliefs.
            >Easter =/= Ishtar
            >no Christian ever worshipped a Christmas tree
            Are you sure? Because the Russian Orthodox Patriarch says otherwise.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Are you sure? Because the Russian Orthodox Patriarch says otherwise.
            So have some protestants. It has nothing to do with reality and everything to do with different Christian denominations insulting each other with crap that isn't true.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            That’s great. I’m not an Orthodox believer. I alsp do not recognize the legitimacy of the Russian Orthodox Church whatsoever considered its extensive history of corruption, not only that, but the fact that its a vestige of the Russian government and has been for a long time. The Soviets crushed the Church, which, while having issues, was a good organization. Then the Soviets let it back for goodie boy points regarding religious tolerance some 20 years before its collapse. However, ever since its return, it has largely been anything but a religious body, unfortunately. It’s simply a govt organization. There’s nothing free or autonomous about it.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            >it has largely been anything but a religious body, unfortunately. It’s simply a govt organization. There’s nothing free or autonomous about it.
            That's true of Christianity in general since at least the time of Constantine.

  8. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Religious "truth" transcends reason and comprehension, according to these people. It amounts to a "surrender" before a totalizing, unifying metaphysical concept.

    So long as the systems of logic used to describe our world rest upon tautology, religious people will always have room to fill that gap with whatever homosexual sky-daddy shit they'd like: "the bible's true because the bible says so? well maths is only true because maths says so! so therefore abrahamic garbage is all true and real forever!"

  9. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Religions are just myths and fairytales

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Religions are just myths and fairytales

      Yes captain obvious....
      Wow. you must be a fricking genius because you said that salt tastes salty.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        > Muh made up story
        YMGMI

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          >> Muh made up story
          >YMGMI
          That's what religions are anon....

          YNGMI*

          FRICK

          >YNGMI*
          >FRICK
          ???
          Seems like we have an extremely intelligent person in our midst foks...

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          Dude if you think the things in religions like talking snakes actually happened you're moronic

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            God can make a snake talk if he so pleases. I have no idea if it did. I’m not a Biblical Expert nor was I there. Go ask a Catholic Priest. If you’re an atheist, you’re moronic

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            Can God make a rock so big he can't lift it?

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        YNGMI*

        FRICK

  10. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    That image has nothing to do with Egyptian mythology, But is obviously something inspired by western-esoteric/occult thinking like Thelema/Freemasonry/Golden-Dawn etc

    Pagan gods and classical elements being compartmentalisation of human consciousness etc.

  11. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    word concept fallacy
    just because IS RA and EL put together in English spell Israel doesn't mean Israel is 3 Egyptian gods

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah, but the fact that monotheism was invented in ancient Egypt makes it highly likely that the greek religion of Christianity was heavily inspired by it.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        The fact that my birthday is on the same day as someone else makes it highly likely that I am also in part that person

        no you're just moronic

  12. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    > MUH ABRAHIMIST
    No such religion exists

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      >MUH ABRAHIMIST
      >No such religion exists
      No shit anon, it's a religious classification. Not an actual religion....
      Ok?

      Yeah, but the fact that monotheism was invented in ancient Egypt makes it highly likely that the greek religion of Christianity was heavily inspired by it.

      >Yeah, but the fact that monotheism was invented in ancient Egypt
      Claiming that the Egyptians invented monotheism is akin to claiming that some group invented gods.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Claiming that the Egyptians invented monotheism is akin to claiming that some group invented gods.
        Not really since everyone has God.
        Where as monotheism is absolutely unique to the near east.

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Not really since everyone has God.
          Not really since everyone has Gods*.

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Not really since everyone has God.
          ?
          >Where as monotheism is absolutely unique to the near east.
          Wrong, and it's stupid to claim that.

          There's nothing in Ancient Egypt which has passed down to Christianity? Not 1 tenet (fragement)?

          How can God be so Great, yet not influence anything in the world?

          >There's nothing in Ancient Egypt which has passed down to Christianity? Not 1 tenet (fragement)?
          ...Atenism was the state religion of Egypt for only 20 years before being completely replaced by ordinary Egyptian polytheism again...
          >How can God be so Great, yet not influence anything in the world?
          Because he doesn't actually exist or have any influence in the world. You are an idiot for actually believing that any god is real.
          >God can make a snake talk if he so pleases
          So you're schizophrenic. Okay then.

  13. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Why do Abrahamists ignore the fact that they just worship fragments of Ancient Egyptian religion
    because they don't since this is a false statement

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      There's nothing in Ancient Egypt which has passed down to Christianity? Not 1 tenet (fragement)?

      How can God be so Great, yet not influence anything in the world?

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        >If God doesn't take something from other religions, he is not great because he has no influence.
        >If God doesn't take something from other religions, he is not great because he is being influenced.
        Looks like a lose-lose situation, don't you think?

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          Says more for how Christians have presented their religion tbh.

          They'd be respected a lot more if they were open about their influences, and how they iterated upon them. Instead, they try and take a monopoly on the entirety of history, thought, ideology, belief, ritual and everything in between.

          This is why the Enlightenment won.

  14. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    God loves canaan & egypt, does he?

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