Why did God create this? I cannot respect or worship a God who would do this.

Why did God create this?

I cannot respect or worship a God who would do this.

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  1. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    What's wrong?

  2. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Created Brazil?

  3. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    He didn't, they are a result of the Fall

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Humans evolved into cave apes after the Fall?

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        well the whole metaphysics of the world changed after the Fall because there was no death,
        It would make sense that humans being unequipped to deal with the harshness of the Fallen world would also adapt a bit to the new environment
        but really they just look like hairy aboriginals

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          >the whole metaphysics of the world changed after the Fall

          Yeah that never happened. There has always been death for all life since the beginning, billions of years ago.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            >There has always been death for all life since the beginning, billions of years ago
            ok prove it

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            Fossils of dead animals and microbes

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            like the ones on top of mountains?

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            Animals die and turn into fossils on the ground. The ground gets pushed up over time and turns into a mountain. The fossils that were once on the ground are now high in the sky.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            >The ground gets pushed up over time and turns into a mountain
            does the ground get pushed up the mountain over a billion trillion years or does the mountain get eroded away over a billion trillion years? why can't evolutionists come to a consensus on this

            also you haven't even showing that your model of 'billions of years' has actually passed

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            Why did you drop out of high school?

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous
          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            >over a billion trillion years

            You're clearly a low IQ moron with zero education in any field. It is not possible to discuss this with you further.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            then why are you the one that can't make an argument

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            [...]

            Based posting-the-same-picture-in-the-same-thread-multiple-times anon

  4. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >I cannot respect or worship a God who would...
    Then don't. He loses nothing. You lose everything.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah, I won't. Keep sucking your demon God's circumcised israelite dick.

  5. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why do anything anymore, you squares?

  6. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >yikes.gif
    ahaah upvotes for this gentleman

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >YOU LOSE EVERYTHING

      No, I gained everything.

      You're still a slave.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        What did you gain? Honest question. I considered my options when faced with leaving/remaining in faith and it didn't really seem to me like I'd gain anything real.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          No longer a slave to the israelite.

          Also none of it is real, so I gain nothing by believe. Prayers don't work. A God is not looking out for you. There is no afterlife.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            Chances are you are very much a slave to israelites.
            >I gain nothing by believe
            Then I am very sorry for the life of faith you led. I gain quite a lot from it.

            So that's the benefit of atheism? A post-modern concept of "freedom" along with dismissing stuff?

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            There is no benefit to atheism except you are free from the scam that is religion taking your time and money.

            Atheism is the truth, and no wishful thinking will change that.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Atheism is the truth
            how do you know truth even exists

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            No word games or wishful thinking or prayers are going to make God exist.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            Correct. He exists already.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            Alright, prove it.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            the fact atheism collapses into self contradiction shows that theism is correct.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            So you have no actual proof. That's what I thought.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            I do here:
            the fact atheism collapses into self contradiction shows that theism is correct.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            That's your claim. Now prove it.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            the individual atheists rejects God due to a supposed 'lack of proof' however concepts like: reason, logic, consciousness, human thought, objective truth also cannot be proven given an atheist worldview and have to be presupposed.
            So by accepting reason, logic, consciousness, human thought, and objective truth but not God you are being arbitrary and ad hoc.
            Further by saying that a person cannot presuppose God to exist but then presupposes reason, logic, consciousness, human thought, and objective truth you contradict yourself.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            Reason, logic, and objective truth are human concepts. We don't fully understand how things work on the quantum level, and don't have a full model of the universe, physics, or the human consciousness.

            God is still not real. Definitely not the three-headed Bible God that interacted with desert tribes and cares about if you jerk off.

            The Universe is the total opposite of "intelligent design". It's a random clusterfrick mess of exploding balls of plasma and asteroids and radiation.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Reason, logic, and objective truth are human concepts
            what does "human concept" even mean?
            >God is still not real. Definitely not the three-headed Bible God that interacted with desert tribes and cares about if you jerk off.
            You are objectively saying that God is still not real but can't even show whether or not objective truth exists? thats self defeating.
            >The Universe is the total opposite of "intelligent design". It's a random clusterfrick mess of exploding balls of plasma and asteroids and radiation.
            ok prove it.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            Human concept means the way human brain atoms generate consciousness and interpret the surrounding universe.

            I'm subjectively saying it because we don't have a full understanding of reality. Not even you do, you're just some worthless homosexual who nobody would even miss if you were dead.

            Ever seen a picture of outer space from a telescope?

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Human concept means the way human brain atoms generate consciousness and interpret the surrounding universe.
            you're claiming they are "human concepts" but in that you are presupposing consciousness to exist without being able to demonstrate that claim. Whether you call them "human concepts" or not you are presupposing their existence without any demonstration that they exist.

            >I'm subjectively saying it because we don't have a full understanding of reality. Not even you do, you're just some worthless homosexual who nobody would even miss if you were dead.
            ok but this has nothing to do with the argument.

            >Ever seen a picture of outer space from a telescope?
            how does the size of the universe communicate value?

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            Your homosexual israelitegod isn't real dude. No matter how much you cope.

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piss_Christ

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            >rage quit
            your concession is accepted

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            You just run around in circles going "You don't have objective truth so how can you know anything?! Hahahaha."

            Yeah, we don't know how all of reality works. That's why we invented axioms. The probability of God existing based on those axioms is very low.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            you aren't able to make a counter argument.
            >Yeah, we don't know how all of reality works. That's why we invented axioms. The probability of God existing based on those axioms is very low.
            How do you know anything you are saying is true if we 'don't know how reality works'?

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            I don't, I only have probability based on axioms.

            Where do you get your objective truth, that laughingstock man-made book called the Bible? Is that what you're going to say?

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            >How do you know anything you are saying is true if we 'don't know how reality works'?
            >I don't
            then by definition nothing you said can be true, including atheism. So if atheism isn't true then what remains is theism

            Thank you for admitting God exists

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            >then by definition nothing you said can be true

            No, nothing I said can be 100% confirmed (yet) until we have a full model of physics and reality.

            Do you understand that humankind through science has not reached that goal yet?

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            >No, nothing I said can be confirmed
            then you lose

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            You claim to have objective truth? Where do you get it?

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            Truth is rooted in God

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            Which God?

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            If you have an argument (which you already admitted you have no way of knowing what you're saying is true)
            then you can present it but I'm not playing 20 questions with you

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            Is this your objective truth? The God which has thousands of competing sects that can't figure out what truth God was trying to say?

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            so again you can present an argument if are able to but I'm not going to play 20 questions

            please make an argument

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            Your "objective truth" is based in faulty ancient manuscripts full of errors and contradictions that leads to nothing but confusion for the whole world. That is the opposite of truth.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Your "objective truth" is based in faulty ancient manuscripts full of errors and contradictions
            such as?

            >That is the opposite of truth
            you just a few posts ago couldn't show truth even exists now you're asserting it does, further showing how ad hoc atheism is.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            You're not showing me how this "objective truth" works. You say you get it from God, but how? Are the truths written somewhere?

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            >You're not showing me how this "objective truth" works.
            what are you confused about?

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah, you won't just come out and say it. That's how spineless and cowardice Christcucks are.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            you refuse to clarify your point of contention, not much i can do for you

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            Mark 6:8
            >and He instructed them that they were to take nothing for their journey, except a mere staff—no bread, no bag, no money in their belt

            Luke 9:3
            >And He said to them, “Take nothing for your journey, neither a staff, nor a bag, nor bread, nor money; and do not even have two tunics.

            Alright this is from your book of objective truth. Tell me which is the objective truth. Take a staff or do not take a staff?

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            The gospels are a theological work on Christ's life not a modern day history book, they are written to convey a theological message and for an ease of understanding and remembering much like epic poems,
            The goal is to convey a theological position not to convey with 100% certainty whether or not people carried a staff

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            So if you can't determine objective truth from the Bible, how do you do it?

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            >So if you can't determine objective truth from the Bible
            ok prove it

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            See

            I would like to know the objective truth on wether the apostles carried a staff or not on that journey. You said truth cones from God and this book is supposed to be God's objective truth word. Now tell me.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            So your objective truth manual is littered with contradictions, of which cannot be determined which is the real truth? This is not looking good for you.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            If it was a history book that would be an issue but it isn't its a work of theology, to which there are no contradictions,
            Also we don't see the Bible like the Muslims see the Quran as a perfect eternal book given directly by God so whether they carried a staff or not is irrelevant

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            >its a work of theology, to which there are no contradictions

            This is your objective truth? LMAO

            What a crock of shit. I didn't think you would stoop so low, but you revealed your hand.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            you're free to make a counter argument at any time

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            You're free to frick off now.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            I noticed you don't capitalize your sentences or use punctuation.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            This is such an amusing statement because it relies on the assumption that whites are more intelligent now than they were a century ago. This guy wants to have it both ways, he wants to be based an racist, while also claiming that liberal anti-racists are the smartest people in history.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            You're free to frick off now.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            I would like to know the objective truth on wether the apostles carried a staff or not on that journey. You said truth cones from God and this book is supposed to be God's objective truth word. Now tell me.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            >I would like to know the objective truth on wether the apostles carried a staff or not on that journey.
            but that isn't even what the gospels are communicating again it isn't a modern day history book its a theological work

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            So your objective truth book is just totally up in the air when it comes to determining which parts are the real truth and which are not. Just guesswork.

            Wow, thank you for debunking your whole "objective truth" facade. Nice try Christcuck, but you lost.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            >So your objective truth book is just totally up in the air when it comes to determining which parts are the real truth and which are not. Just guesswork.
            no where did you even get that from
            >Wow, thank you for debunking your whole "objective truth" facade. Nice try Christcuck, but you lost.
            well you were wrong so again no

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            I showed that you are full of shit and have no objective truth. You can frick off now.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous
          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            [...]

            I gave you evidence that your "objective truth" Bible has no objective truth in it and has to be subjectively determined by the reader by comparing all the contradictions. Now you're in meltdown mode.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            And I countered them to which you couldn't make an argument against
            now you're in meltdown mode

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            Countered them with what?

            >"Nuh uh, that contradiction doesn't count"

            How do you determine which parts of the Bible are the objective truth?

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            >>"Nuh uh, that contradiction doesn't count"
            conveniently ignoring the argument. classic.

            also earlier you said you have no basis for how you know truth even exists so by extension you have no basis for how you lose that its true there are contradictions, even further examples of the absurdity of atheism

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            How do you determine which parts of the Bible are the objective truth?

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            >How do you determine which parts of the Bible are the objective truth?
            like I said earlier I'm not going to play 20 questions with you. if you have an argument please present one

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            So any tough questions and you default to saying that. Looks like you have no answer and have been defeated.

            You said you had objective truth but cannot demonstrate it to me or how you get it.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            no argument? well I guess you lose then

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            Every time God fails to answer your prayers, I win.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            which is never,
            sucks to suck moron

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            Why don't you go to a children's cancer hospital and pray for God to heal them all that day?

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            I'm predestined not to

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            You only try to believe in God to alleviate your fear of death.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            Ok prove it

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            You know I'm right.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            Nope

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            Make sure to read that objective truth about loving your enemy and turning the other cheek so they can kill you and frick your women.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            ok schizo

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            What you don't seem to grasp is that I'm using the axiom you defined as truth. We have to set some frame if reference, so I'm using yours. The Bible is the opposite of what you defined as truth.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            >The Bible is the opposite of what you defined as truth.
            you said this already but you haven't been able to show how its the case

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            Go die for Israel you pathetic Christcuck.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            Your imaginary God also has no observable or detectable effects on the universe or life on earth. Prayer doesn't work, being Christian doesn't make your life any better than another religion or atheism, no miracles have ever been confirmed, nothing. Your God is completely absent, only in your mind.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Your imaginary God also has no observable or detectable effects on the universe or life on earth
            neither does: logic, reason, objective truth, consciousness, human thought, yet you presuppose them anyways to have this conversation
            so if you're going to presuppose those metaphysical concepts I'll presuppose God

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            You presuppose a skywizard?

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            if you're going to presuppose metaphysical concepts without proof so will I.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            The claims from the Bible can be shown to never have happened. So it can be safely rejected.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            ok prove it

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            Where do you get your objective truth and what does it say?

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            You believe and worship some tribal israelitegod from thousands of years ago and pay a tithe to the cult.

            I mean how fricking stupid can you get?

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            considering it makes you seethe so much its a further attestation of its truth

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            This argument was debunked by Elizabeth Anscombe, a Catholic

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            if you can't give an account for truth but believe it anyways you're being arbitrary and ad hoc

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            isn't the burden of proof on theists?

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            So I gain an hour on Sunday and save 4 bucks. Leaving behind a community of people trying to pursue the good, the true, the beautiful and the timeless.
            Not a good trade, I must say. But I'm sure you had other reasons that are difficult to express.

            Christ is Lord.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            this. even if God wasn't really its still better to live as a Christian than an atheistcuck

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            Nah, you're a bunch of low IQ scum and your churches and nothing but pedophile rings.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            glad it makes you seethe so much :^)

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            You Christians create nothing but raped kids and misery and death wherever you go.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            ok schizo

  7. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >god is bad because... he created monkeys!
    what's wrong with monkeys, OP? I like monkeys
    t. non-religious

  8. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    So glad Christianity is in permanent decline. All Christboomers are dying off and all the youth are rejecting it.

    Atheism wins in the end.

    I WON.

  9. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    You are assuming that creatures which do not meet your aesthetic expectations are somehow an imperfect creation.

  10. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Adam and Eve were perfect, they were reduced to this when they were kicked out of Eden and forced to toil the cursed land.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Adam and Eve turned into Australopithecus and then evolved into modern humans over 6,000 years?

  11. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    No, evolutionism is of course completely incompatible with any form of religion so must be rejected from a theological perspective, since we are divine and a divine nature cannot arise from the bestial; it's the other way around. And from an empirical perspective there is simply no hard evidence for it, only inference. So for the atheist, it is a seemingly sound theory, but still a theory. For the believer, it is nonsense.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >we are divine

  12. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Another day's work of putting Christshitters in their place.

  13. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    These were the prototypes you blasphemous heathen.

  14. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >I cannot respect or worship a God who would do this.

    Have you ever had a notion of God who you could worship?

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      No, worshiping is a form of slavery. I could only respect a God that would create me as his equal.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        I think the phrase "I cannot blah blah something that blah blah" implies that there is a win condition. If you're a non-believer, please at least act like that's what's in your heart, out of compassion for people who might think "This one can be reached by reason." when it is not the case.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          >This one can be reached by reason

          How? One look at this wretched universe and life on Earth and you know it is not a divine creation of a God and it is purely the result of random chemical reactions over billions of years. What "reasonable" thing could you possibly say? "God loves you"? LMAO

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          >out of compassion

          Frick you butthole. You parasite that spreads your mind virus. I have no compassion for you, I hate your kind. There is no God, I can do whatever I want.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            The fact it makes you seethe so hard is just further vindication

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            Look at this thread full of Christseethe, all because I refused to worship your imaginary God.

            I'm better than your God. I'm above Christians.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            massive cope

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