When did you realize that atheism is retarded?

When did you realize that atheism is moronic?

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  1. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    it isn't.
    occam's razor

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Occam's razor is literally God though
      Ever heard of the concept "God of the gaps"

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        the gaps that shrink and shrink and shrink as we extend our knowledge of how the universe works?
        What is there in this world that cannot be explained but by god? In practice, little, much less than only a few decades ago, in theory, nothing at all.
        "I have no need of that hypothesis"

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          Idk man God really is the shortest solution to things
          Why do babies happen- sex + God
          But to you it's something like sexual maturity, sex organs, sex alleles, mating practices, punnett squares, periods, sperm, zygote etc etc.
          Either way a baby is made so what's the point in complicating the matter

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            that's no different than handwaving everything by saying "A wizard did it!". If you posit that a god or gods just made things that way, who's to say Harry Potter didn't wave his magic wand and make things that way? It's no explanation at all, really. And that'd be one thing if we had no other explanation for how sexual reproduction works and why it happens, but we do. There's a logical argument about how that evolved and why it persisted, which boils down to, like everything else, "doing that made life more likely to successfully reproduce, compared to not doing it". That's logically satisfying but existentially unsatisfying, sure. But truth doesn't have to be comforting.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            People drink alcohol and chemicals in toothpaste and shampoo and soap, preservatives in food and wonder if their child is moronic because of god. Life isn't that simple in our modern times, you don't think, you don't win.

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          Causality. How can existence begin without a prime mover? There must always be something preceding something else to cause it.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            sigh, and what moves the prime mover?

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            Nothing, and that's the thing. Whatever started existence must have been illogical and infinite. Would a non-sentient force of that nature be able to create a contained finite structure?

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Would a non-sentient force of that nature be able to create a contained finite structure?
            Why not?

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            It would be too chaotic. Infinite horizon

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            >IT'S NOT POSSIBLE BECAUSE... IT'S JUST NOT OKAY

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Would a non-sentient force of that nature be able to create a contained finite structure?
            We can't know either way. The fact the universe exists with no other evidence for greater intelligence seems to imply that it must have happened at least once.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      "God created the universe" is a much simpler explanation than whatever backflips you have to do to explain how the universe came to be via science

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        >God came into existence from nothing then created everything
        >Everything came into existence from nothing
        Believing in God is just adding extra steps to how we came into existence. It's more complicated than the latter explanation for existence

  2. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    In what do you believe anon?

  3. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's the only thing that makes any sense. Everyone other option is completely based off emotion and should be disregarded.

  4. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    i didn't realize that because it's not true

  5. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    >atheism is le dumb even tho god could easily disprove it just by showing xeself and yet xe doesn't
    Sounds like another slam dunk for the A-boys, now we celebrate by getting sodomized by 20 of the most masculine Black person studs we can find as an afront to god's plan

  6. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    When I started to view life itself as god.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      literally this. our sun and moon are the closest things to god for me. without them we literally wouldnt be here

  7. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    There's never going to be a right answer to this. Humans have argued since developing higher intelligence about who is the right god, how many gods, how to worship the gods, what if there's no gods at all, what if you could become the god, what the god/s think is good. People will keep arguing and killing each other over religion until humanity dies out.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      >people argue so we can't know the correct answer!
      You would never believe anything about anything if you consistently applied this standard.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        It's not about knowing the correct answer it's about no answer ever being accepted as correct.

  8. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    In the 1970s-90s they learned that separating the two hemispheres of the brain wouldn't actually kill someone.
    ..But the survivor would functionally be two different "halves" of a singular "person", every time, without fail. The left side of the brain operated independently from the right, and vice-versa; only sharing information through limited and non-articulated means.
    The entire concept of "consciousness" is more than likely completely constructed. It's ever-increasingly likely that our brains think the way we do to organize information more efficiently - and nothing else.

    Sapience is probably not much more than the ability to effectively sort information.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      >He doesn't see this as evidence of intelligent design
      Tssk tssk

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        >implying a benevolent force must exist for intelligent design
        read a book on the atmosphere of venus you nonce

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          >implying God is only benevolent
          why would you assume as such lol

          "complex things imply a maker, they can't have arisen without a guiding hand" is a fallacy.

          yeah im sure after 2000+ years of debating human consciousness you're finally going to figure it out where it comes from
          (hint: its the soul)

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            >(hint: its the soul)
            that thing that people say exists but have never once been able to provide any evidence of? I confidently assert that the whole concept of a "soul" is a fiction.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            silly anon you cant measure it, you perceive it, its spiritual. good people have shining pure souls and bad people have black dirty souls. your soul starts off pure and gets darker with age and thats why you have to do good things and pray so your soul gets better

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            anon you cant measure it, you perceive it, its spiritual.
            in other words, it doesn't exist. It's a fantasy.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            >you can't measure it
            >still qualifies it (shining, pure, black, dirty)
            lol
            lmao

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        "complex things imply a maker, they can't have arisen without a guiding hand" is a fallacy.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      >But the survivor would functionally be two different "halves" of a singular "person", every time, without fail.

      How does that work exactly, sounds scary.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        Here's a video that goes into that

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          Cool I'm two persons then, 2 dumb depressed persons.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      so how do i become a genius

  9. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Never. I only realized that telling others that you are an atheist is moronic.
    I want religion to be the norm. I want other people to be faithful. Moral obligations are a handicap. The more people limit themselves with made up nonsense the better for me, because I have no limits. It's if we're running a 100-meter dash and everyone is just jumping on one leg and I'm using both legs.

    I WANT people to believe in a god. I always lie IRL and act like I believe in him too. I read religious book with arguments of god's existence and tell them to people. Most of them are too stupid to see the holes in the reasoning. They get covinced and start handicapping themselves with useless millenia old rules. It's ultimitaly survival of the fittest. And I'm the fittest.

    That's what the kings and rulers did since the dawn of time. I feel connected to them. I'm an aristocrat in spirit.

  10. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Probably at 15

  11. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    What I've noticed about larping religious people on Oyish is that they always go after atheist but never other religions. You never have that same desire to debate a Muslim or israelite on their faith because you're all like crazy people in a mental hospital. You can put your differences to the side because you all believe in nonsense, the guy who thinks he is a vampire is the friend of the girl who thinks she's wolf, but the doctor who calls out your delusions is the enemy.

    If believing in your god was so simple and so obvious, why not convince the Muslim to become Christian or vice versa? Because you can't. You all cling to the same madness and find solidarity in this, and any attempt to convince the other differently would make you feel the way we do when talking to religious people.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Practicing any religion at all is better than not practicing. A lot of the religious principles are the same. The issue is that most people in governments don't adhere to religious principles anymore. It used to be a concern that John F Kennedy was a Catholic instead of a protestant but he proved he was a great president regardless. People should be held to religious standards again, no more lying to the public, no more degeneracy, no more agenda pushing that screws everyone over so the corporate donors get more money.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      >they always go after atheist but never other religions
      israelite is one of the most used insults on this site.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        It's aimed mostly at secular israelites

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Becuase there are less muslims and israelites here. And on /misc/ they definitely go after muslims and israelites. It's also the same god btw. Allah just means god in arabic

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        >there are less israelites here

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        >It's also the same god btw. Allah just means god in arabic
        Meanwhile in reality you will be beheaded for practicing any other religion in most Islamic countries.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Christians, Muslims, and israelites are all nearly the same thing. They have all the same Holy Books. The Quran literally says the Bible and the Talmud are canon. They have all the same people and stories. Muslim's just believe that after Jesus and the Bible there was another iteration where Muhammad was the final prophet and the Quran is the complete and final Holy Book. It's all the same God.

  12. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Call me a manchild but I never did

  13. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    When I had a spiritual experience.

    Inb4 some atheist says I need a double blind to believe my own senses.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      >When I had a spiritual experience.
      care to elaborate ? (not trolling just curious)

  14. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    If God is good why does he loves some people and hate other people?

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      I'm not saying that a God doesn't exist, but if he does he's niether omnipotent nor good.

      Why do atheists continue to deny God by calling Him good. Like what fricking Bible passage are you quoting? Read Psalms motherfrickers. READ IT. Literally called a terrible God multiple times. A man of war. A jealous God. Get it through your thick fedora covered balding skull.

  15. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm not saying that a God doesn't exist, but if he does he's niether omnipotent nor good.

  16. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    I think the only thing that can convert an atheist to some spirituality is a heroic dose of psychedelics. Mushrooms in particular. Many such cases.

  17. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    I saw all the other people calling themselves atheist and decided to call myself nonbeliever instead

  18. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    >When did you realize that atheism is moronic?
    I guess I always knew that. It's obviously nonsense to believe that the universe came from nothing. And it's against all natural feelings to believe that people have no souls. I still wonder who actually believes that and why. And I guess it's a demonic psyop.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      >And it's against all natural feelings to believe that people have no souls
      ironic to post that here, on a website that popularized the NPC meme

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        Without souls the NPCs would literally have to be robots. How many people believe that there are billions of perfectly human-like robots out there?

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Without souls the NPCs would literally have to be robots
          yeah that's the point
          >How many people believe that there are billions of perfectly human-like robots out there?
          at least one (me)

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            And who builds all these things? Other robots?

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            >And who builds all these things?
            I never pretended to know.
            also, I could ask the same about your god.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            >I could ask the same about your god.
            Brahma the creator manifested from the Brahman.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Brahma the creator manifested from the Brahman
            care to elaborate? (not trolling, I'm interested)

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            The Brahman is the evrything. The all-soul. It is eternal, beyond time and space, beyond good and bad, light and dark, life and death etc. From Brahman came Atman, the individual soul. The first Atman was Brahma and he had the power to create worlds. In the world other Atmans manifested as gods, humans, animals, demons. The highest gods, beside Brahma the creator, are Vishnu the keeper and Shiva the destroyer. All beings in the universe are basically sparks of the Brahman, and the spiritual goal is to re-unite with it. Until then the souls reincarnate in the world. Hinduism.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            >the spiritual goal is to re-unite with it
            and how do I do that?
            >Until then the souls reincarnate in the world
            damn, that sucks. (picrel)

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            >and how do I do that?
            Spiritual training. Meditation and such.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Meditation
            will give a try, but my attention span is FRICKED

            Also, to come back to the thread topic, i don't see how you have to believe in god to reach that conclusion, i don't believe in god but i still figured out that the goal of my existence is to put an end to it.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            Well, if you're a materialist, I guess you believe that your existence will end with the death of your body.
            I think that would be pretty easy, just jump from a bridge and it's over. But I believe that I would come back, and with even more misery. So the rope is not an option.
            A main difference between christianity and hinduism is that hindus don't worship Brahma much. There are even a lot of people who think that his creation caused more troubble than benefits. And Brahma also did mistakes. Like the demons, they were a mistake, and now Vshnu has to deal with them. Brahma is not allmighty and onmicient. He is just the most powerful of all the people in the universe.
            I think the reason why there is evil in the world is because existence allways comes as duality. When there is light, there is also darkness, when there is life there is death, when there is male there is female. It must be like that. I think Brahma found that out too, and then it was too late to change it.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            >if you're a materialist, I guess you believe that your existence will end with the death of your body
            i'm not a materialist, but yeah, if i was i would believe that
            >hindus don't worship Brahma much
            so hindus acknowledge god(s) don't worship them? that's interesting, i didn't know.
            >Brahma is not allmighty and onmicient. He is just the most powerful of all the people in the universe
            so there is no omnicient/omnipotent god in hinduism? some people could call that a form of atheism don't you think?

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            >so there is no omnicient/omnipotent god in hinduism?
            No. Some might say that the Brahman is, but it's not a being. It's said it's nature can't even be described. Only the enlightend ones understand, because they're one with it.
            >some people could call that a form of atheism don't you think?
            I don't think you can be an atheist who believes in god. 🙂 But the concept is just different. Even Brahma is mortal. His life-span is as long as the universe, but in the end he will die too. And then something new will manifest from the Brahman. Even universes are in a cycle of death and rebirth.
            Hindus worship gods for practiocal reasons. Ganesh brings wealth and health, Vishnu chases away demons, Shiva makes you strong and potent etc.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Hindus worship gods for practiocal reasons. Ganesh brings wealth and health, Vishnu chases away demons, Shiva makes you strong and potent etc
            but why do they need any of that if the goal is to reunite with the Brahman?

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            Not all people are full-on spiritual, you know.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            It's like: when people have a good life, they don't see much need to unite their soul with the Brahman. It's an option but not a duty. When people are ok with being reborn endlessly in the world, they can skip spirituality. And a comon thought for hindus is: ah, I have so many lives, I can meditate later.

            oh ok, yeah i suppose if i enjoyed being alive i would love reincarnation too

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah ... I guess that's the same for all religions: the people who take it serious are the ones who hate this world.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            >I guess that's the same for all religions: the people who take it serious are the ones who hate this world.
            that's the part i don't understand, you've explained the basics of hinduism to me, but for other religions in which god is described as all-loving, omniscient and omnipotent, why would someone who hate this world worship its creator? i don't get these people

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            I guess they obey the great dictator to get a place in paradise. To pretend to love him is part of the game.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            yeah i suppose

            btw are you hindu? if so, where do i start if i want to learn more about hinduism? do it have a holy book or something? i'm still not religious but curious and i have a lot of free time so i may start to look into that.
            if not then what do you believe in ? (if you don't mind sharing)

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            I'm not from india, and you can be a hindu only if you're born into one of the castes. But I found out that I just believe in their theology. Maybe I was a hindu in my past life. 🙂
            There are many texts, but I don't know a speciffic one now to recomend. The most classic is the Baghavatgita. Buddhism is also interresting (for me the tibetan style, with all the gods and holy men with superpowers 🙂

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Baghavatgita
            i think i've seen that name before, i'll look into it

            anyway it was nice talking to you (assuming you're the same anon from the beginning

            >When did you realize that atheism is moronic?
            I guess I always knew that. It's obviously nonsense to believe that the universe came from nothing. And it's against all natural feelings to believe that people have no souls. I still wonder who actually believes that and why. And I guess it's a demonic psyop.

            )
            i'm probably going to leave the thread and go to sleep soon (unless you have something to add), so, thanks for the talk
            🙂

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yes, that was me.
            Yeah, god conversation. That's rare these days.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            It's like: when people have a good life, they don't see much need to unite their soul with the Brahman. It's an option but not a duty. When people are ok with being reborn endlessly in the world, they can skip spirituality. And a comon thought for hindus is: ah, I have so many lives, I can meditate later.

  19. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    You are physical proof that spending time on /LULZ/ makes you stupider than you used to be

  20. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    pretty much never, i lost faith a long time ago when i realized the bible just plagiarized other older religions and that most christians and mormons are morons, pedophiles, easily scammed etc.

    not that i personally have anything towards theists, but im neutral to them.

  21. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    After Covid and the BLM riots. People need something bigger than themselves to believe in or else they go moronic.

  22. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    When I realized the difference between knowledge and belief. More so, when I realized 99.9% of atheists are in fact just antitheists.
    I have no interest in explaining intuition for the introspective. I also have no interest explaining how I turned from a hardcore antitheist to a fundamental theist,
    or at least beyond the fact I started to doubt the associations between the physical ever since I went through a near-death experience in mid 2019.
    My ego died right then and there.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      >My ego died right then and there.
      how do you know than? (just curious)

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        It's not easily explainable, I lost my sense of self when I heard and saw those who supposedly will be coming to me when my times comes.
        Whoever they may be and are called, I'm no match for....My entire life, since then, is just trying to set it straight.
        When I was lowering my father in his grave a couple of years or more ago, I actually felt I'm putting him home.

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