What makes Christianity so evil? The fact that it is a false hope.

What makes Christianity so evil? The fact that it is a false hope. It robs people of their time, money and energy for promises that will never come true. Jesus will never return. You will not go to heaven when you die. Grifters get rich off of it, you get nothing in the end.

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  1. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    wubba lubba dub dub

  2. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Jesus will never return
    He already did in 70 AD: https://tektonticker.blogspot.com/2022/05/today-i-have-special-guest-piece-by.html

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah, no.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        Uhh...ok? It's supported by the strongest sort of evidence we could really ask for (multiple non-Christian contemporary historians of the highest caliber) so I'm not sure what you're looking for.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          incorrect

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    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Accounts of this kind are super common in ancient primary sources, if Christianity is "proven" by such accounts, so is roman paganism.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        Give me something you believe to be a parallel example.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          It's so common that there's a term for it, an epiphany: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epiphany_(Ancient_Greece)

          But anon, the gods of all the cultures, by-and-large, were likely real. Devas ARE real. Spirits ARE real. No one who knows is unsure about this fact.

          Convenient how all these gods stopped making such overt displays of power since cameras were invented...

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            Convenient how all these gods stopped making such overt displays of power since cameras were invented...

            That's not an accurate viewpoint and snarky besides.

            Snarky and wrong. I fail to not look down on you.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Nuh uh

            Wow anon a Wikipedia link to a general term meaning absolutely any time anyone ever claimed to see a divinity, what a galaxy-brain argument you're presenting here.

            There's nothing even remotely comparable in all of ancient history. Here we have multiple contemporary sources of the absolute highest tier reporting massive events seen by entire populations that are transparently divine. Worlds apart from examples on that page, like someone dreaming of a goddess.

            Siege of Tyre 332, several citizens of the city allegedly dreamt that the God Apollo left the city and went to Alexander's camp, meaning he favored Alexander's victory.

            "Stop" implies it was ever something regular. The only examples I can think of were the exodus, Joshua's long day, possibly Hezekiah's long day, the darkness at the crucifixion, and those events there. Perhaps something similar during a couple of previous times Jerusalem was threatened. So these are extremely rare - cameras have been around for less than 200 years, and these happened even less frequently than once every 200 years.

            However it will happen again when the Third Temple is build; the book of Ezekiel says we will see God manifest and enter it. So have the cameras ready then.

            Lol bs, if you want to include christian apparitions as well this shit becomes even more common and stretches into the middle ages. Look no further than Constantine and his entire army seeing a sign in the sky. Oh, and don't forget about when Muhammad supposedly split the moon in half. Or the literal hundreds of different apparitions of the Virgin Mary.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            >allegedly dreamt
            Wow, how astonishing! They allegedly dreamt. Surely I am at a loss to explain such a thing.

            >Look no further than Constantine and his entire army seeing a sign in the sky
            There's really no way to make that or similar such things work for your position, since you either
            A) agree it happened, in which case it is evidence for Christianity
            B) disagree it happened, in which case it isn't relevant to the frequency of God's action

            >Oh, and don't forget about when Muhammad supposedly split the moon in half.
            ...reported only by Muslims much later who were writing down oral traditions. This is a perfect contrast to the events in Jerusalem, which are reported by contemporary non-Christian sources from opposite sides of the war.

            If we had multiple contemporary non-Muslim sources reporting the moon splitting at the time, I would for sure consider that to be very powerful evidence for Islam.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Wow, how astonishing! They allegedly dreamt. Surely I am at a loss to explain such a thing.
            Just like Judeans allegedly saw chariots in the sky
            >disagree it happened, in which case it isn't relevant to the frequency of God's action
            Yes it is, you said that God only revealed himself in very rare circumstances, if we take every similar event to those in Jerusalem as fact, he actually revealed himself frequently. In 1139 Jesus literally showed up in the sky to the Portuguese King and his army before the Battle of Ourique. So again I ask, why did God stop doing these things after cameras were invented ?

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            NTA, but he can now with deepfakes.

          • 7 months ago
            Shiva

            He still does, but you can't capture spiritual phenomenon on a camera so when it gets caught it just looks like someone taking to themselves

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Just like Judeans allegedly saw chariots in the sky
            Yes, in the actual sky. With their eyes. Something in physical reality, not dreams.

            > if we take every similar event to those in Jerusalem as fact
            Examples? Private visions and dreams are radically different from public events with mass witnesses

            >In 1139 Jesus literally showed up in the sky to the Portuguese King and his army before the Battle of Ourique
            Everything I can find on this says it was a private vision that the king had.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            Multiple people don't tend to have the same dream in the same night

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            All due respect, they very much do. Most people have had nightmares about Dracula, for example. Apollo was a popular fictional character in their culture so it makes sense people would dream about him too and, when stressed, have nightmares about him.
            Plutarch doesn't say everybody dreamed the exact same dream the same night. He says here: https://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Roman/Texts/Plutarch/Lives/Alexander*/4.html that "many of the Tyrians dreamed that Apollo told them he was going away to Alexander, since he was displeased at what was going on in the city".

            That's an understandable thing. If your city is under siege, one of your worst nightmares would be your god saying he actually supports the enemy.

            It's really no more significant than people in a city under famine having lots of dreams about bread.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Nuh uh

            No is a complete thought, anon.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            Wow anon a Wikipedia link to a general term meaning absolutely any time anyone ever claimed to see a divinity, what a galaxy-brain argument you're presenting here.

            There's nothing even remotely comparable in all of ancient history. Here we have multiple contemporary sources of the absolute highest tier reporting massive events seen by entire populations that are transparently divine. Worlds apart from examples on that page, like someone dreaming of a goddess.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            Why did sky israelite stop doing magic in front of entire populations once cameras were invented?

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            "Stop" implies it was ever something regular. The only examples I can think of were the exodus, Joshua's long day, possibly Hezekiah's long day, the darkness at the crucifixion, and those events there. Perhaps something similar during a couple of previous times Jerusalem was threatened. So these are extremely rare - cameras have been around for less than 200 years, and these happened even less frequently than once every 200 years.

            However it will happen again when the Third Temple is build; the book of Ezekiel says we will see God manifest and enter it. So have the cameras ready then.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        But anon, the gods of all the cultures, by-and-large, were likely real. Devas ARE real. Spirits ARE real. No one who knows is unsure about this fact.

  3. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    the Son of God is Satan duh

  4. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    You don't need to say it out loud, lamb

  5. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Christianity is not evil.
    Evil is to claim to be Christian being a LARPer.

    Christianity = following Jesus' teachings and putting them into practice in your daily life. Everything else is not Christianity.

  6. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    If Christianity isn't true - if it is false down to the bottom - then evil isn't possible. All "suffering" is fundamentally meaningless, it's just impulses on neurons as interpreted by those neurons, which quickly expire and dissipate forever, so even the local appearance of meaning dissolved into entropy. You could, through an act of existential will, declare some meaning, but this is just another neural impulse, as meaningless and absurd as any. So you get quite literally Nothing in the end, and also Nothing in the beginning, and from any even vaguely objective viewpoint, you have nothing right now.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >So you get quite literally Nothing in the end, and also Nothing in the beginning, and from any even vaguely objective viewpoint, you have nothing right now.
      Except he does have something right now. It's teporary, fleeting, perhaps unsatisfactory and disappointing - or spectactular. Point is that it is something. Meanwhile Christianity demands you give up that something for something else in the future.

      Whenever I read Christian apologetics it always seems to boil down to "life is harsh, brutal and meaningless, therefore chose Christianity (even if it isn't true)."

  7. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Even if Christianity wasn't real, those people aren't really wasting their time as long as they found meaning in what they did and they were happy and content with their lives.

  8. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Christianity is good even if its not real. It is but even if you're right. You say it robs people of their time, money and energy when really it instills within people the greatest virtues possible among humans. People who aren't Christian are sick and constantly spreading their disease, its very easy to pick up on especially as a Christian. Your life will fundamentally change for the better if you start going to Church regardless of what someone thinks on internet. Godbless everyone and have a great sunday night.

  9. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    It's the Millennium: we're building good to be resurrected at the very end, after Satan returns

  10. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    That's not true, anon.

    On the topic of untrue teachings (and people who cause the to arise and/or grow), there are these words found in the Buddhist canon:

    “Mendicants, it is said that no first point of ignorance is evident, before which there was no ignorance, and afterwards it came to be. And yet it is evident that there is a specific condition for ignorance.

    I say that ignorance is fueled by something, it’s not unfueled. And what is the fuel for ignorance? You should say: ‘The five hindrances.’ I say that the five hindrances are fueled by something, they’re not unfueled. And what is the fuel for the five hindrances? You should say: ‘The three kinds of misconduct.’ I say that the three kinds of misconduct are fueled by something, they’re not unfueled. And what is the fuel for the three kinds of misconduct? You should say: ‘Lack of sense restraint.’ I say that lack of sense restraint is fueled by something, it’s not unfueled. And what is the fuel for lack of sense restraint? You should say: ‘Lack of mindfulness and situational awareness.’ I say that lack of mindfulness and situational awareness is fueled by something, it’s not unfueled. And what is the fuel for lack of mindfulness and situational awareness? You should say: ‘Irrational application of mind.’ I say that irrational application of mind is fueled by something, it’s not unfueled. And what is the fuel for irrational application of mind? You should say: ‘Lack of faith.’ I say that lack of faith is fueled by something, it’s not unfueled. And what is the fuel for lack of faith? You should say: ‘Listening to an untrue teaching.’ I say that listening to an untrue teaching is fueled by something, it’s not unfueled. And what is the fuel for listening to an untrue teaching? You should say: ‘Associating with untrue persons.’

  11. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >you get nothing in the end.
    proof?

  12. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >The fact that it is a false hope.
    JUST AS PLANNED!

  13. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Grifters get rich off of it, you get nothing in the end.
    >it’s only a grift if I don’t like it already.

    If you’re so confident in your own beliefs, why do you create bait threads? Atheists on this board proselytize more than theists

  14. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    hope itself is the root of suffering.

  15. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    It ONLY seems evil to those who Hate God, and Hate what is Right.

    Those who follow Satan or his ways are Doomed to think in his ways.
    Satan is a LIAR.
    His ways are to Lie, and are a LIE.
    -Everything about Satan is LIE, Lie Lie.

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