What happened to people who died before Jesus or had never heard of Him? Heaven? Hell?

What happened to people who died before Jesus or had never heard of Him? Heaven? Hell?

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  1. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Jesus came to preach in hell

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Elaborate?

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harrowing_of_Hell

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          It's worth noting that this is not considered canon by most denominations and is only an evangelical tool.

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            No, it's canon in all traditional denominations and even depicted in Liturgy, lol

          • 8 months ago
            Ο Σολιταίρ

            Jesus went to Hell to pay for sin
            "Preaching in Hell" is nonsensical and only a way to satisfy people's fanfiction about their favorite Pagans maybe being in Heaven after all.

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Catholics
            Not canon.

            >Eastern Orthodox
            Not canon.

            >Protestants
            Not canon.

  2. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    If Jesus could be reincarnated then I suppose anyone could

  3. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    This depends on when.
    If it was before Jesus' death and crucifixion, then they went to Hell for however many years between their own death and his, but then he went down to Hell and rescued them.
    If you die without hearing about Jesus post-Resurrection, then you go to Hell the same way as anyone who rejected him. Which is insanely cruel and unjust in my non-Christian perspective, but it's what the Bible says.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      it doesn't say that.

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        >If you die without hearing about Jesus post-Resurrection, then you go to Hell the same way as anyone who rejected him.
        There is not a single verse saying that. When dared to give one, Christians just spew a list of verses that mention hell without saying exactly that.

        You're simply wrong. Almost every single Christian church disagrees with you.
        Saying those who don't know of Jesus will go to Heaven sounds nice, but it does not align with scripture.

        >“The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of people, who suppress the truth by their wickedness, since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse.” -Romans 1:18-20
        >“All who sin apart from the law will also perish apart from the law, and all who sin under the law will be judged by the law.” -Romans 2:12

        It's the stance of the Catholic Church, and it's also why Protestants spend millions each year trying to travel to remote jungles to talk about Jesus.

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          its not the position of the catholics, they have baptism of the spirit for those who never heard of jesus. nor do they claim to know who is in hell.

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            >nor do they claim to know who is in hell.
            The Pope can excommunicate people, and also canonize them to hell.

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          >You're simply wrong. Almost every single Christian church disagrees with you.
          Did I say I cared about what most Christian churches say? No, I cared about what the Bible says.

          >Saying those who don't know of Jesus will go to Heaven sounds nice, but it does not align with scripture.
          Not what I said in any way.

          And your verses don't refute the point I made.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      >If you die without hearing about Jesus post-Resurrection, then you go to Hell the same way as anyone who rejected him.
      There is not a single verse saying that. When dared to give one, Christians just spew a list of verses that mention hell without saying exactly that.

  4. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    For me the following account is the most persuasive
    People act as if it's unfair for someone not to have heard about Jesus and thus 'never had a chance'
    For example my great grandfather never heard about Jesus or Christianity and therefore isn't it unfair that he would go to Hell without having a chance of hearing the Gospels? Now some people are happy to accept the idea that if he had heard of the Gospel and rejected it then him being damned would be just but isn't it cruel that he was never even given the opportunity to choose?
    The problem here is people do not take predestination seriously enough
    Just like God has determined it such that some people will be raised within Christian societies who are predetermined to reject God, God has also determined that there will be people who were born geographically separate from the Gospels and also temporally separate from the Gospels
    Now you can say that this is unfair but you have to understand that these people were simply not in the elect
    Finally these people who weren't in the elect are fully condemned by the sins that they commit whilst having full knowledge of good and evil since Adam and Eve ate the fruit of the knowledge of Good and Evil

  5. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    didn't we have this exact same thread about 60 times in the past 4 days

  6. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Jesus is God so there is no before Jesus

  7. 8 months ago
    Ο Σολιταίρ

    Before the advent of Christ, people were saved by calling on the name of the Lord.
    Before "Jehovah" (The LORD) was revealed, people were saved by calling on "God Almighty."

    This is literally in Genesis and Exodus.
    Abraham coincidentally finds a priest of God Almighty and gives tithes TO him.
    Only in the Burning Bush is the name "Jehovah" revealed to Moses.
    Only by Christ's Advent do we see the savior fully revealed.
    As time goes on, more specificity is required.

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