what gender is God if he encompasses all attributes

what gender is God if he encompasses all attributes

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  1. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    trans

  2. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    gender does not apply to god
    asking that question is a category error
    its like asking what rainbows sound like

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      are you saying gender is beyond God? Yikes shame about that omnipotence

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        Peak dialectics
        Not an argument
        Your grandma died in the hall of cost
        YWNBAW
        Etc

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        God created gender, God created space, God created time
        none of these apply to him

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          how do you know they dont apply to him? What does apply mean in this context?

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            The point is that he's not ruled by them, by virtue of his having created them. I don't know how you got the idea that they were "beyond" hom.

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            Why would he be ruled by them? In his omnipotence he could become a woman if he wished or a man or anything else which means all genders are part of him and he can do with them as she pleases

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            Oh yeah, why do you refer to God as he instead of she then?

            See

            Gender - male and female - is a fleshy biological concept, not divine. The male gender is the earthly, biological embodiment of the primacy of masculine characteristics. And the female gender is for feminine characteristics. Each shares a portion of the other.

            Similarly - Oneness and Rulership are *masculine* qualities. An Communicatedness and Distributedness are feminine qualities.
            For this reason, two thirds of the trinity use explicitly masculine terminology - god the father is oneness, and god the son is authority, is lord - and the third tends to be depicted as a dove whose gender is ignored.
            But then the mother of god - revered above the angels, but lesser than god - is held up, i think, as an acknowledgement of femininity's place in the divine hierarchy.

            israeli mysticism says God has 11 masculine attributes and 1 feminine, and that when god communicates with creation, he's acting in the capacity of this feminine attribute.

            By switching from he to she, implying the primacy of another gender, arent you just perpetuating the issue?

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            I have no preference so I use both
            By the way, why is Jesus a man if God has no gender?

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            Ambiguity is another feminine quality.
            It isn't useful in rulership. We pick one pronoun and stick with it because it helps us make productive conversation.

            Once we have direction, we can start distributing attention to other things. This is what it means when we say femininity is passive and that it submits to masculinity. It's not about bullying women, it's a description of nature.

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            In many species, it is the male who submits to the female, sounds less like a describtion of nature, and more like a projection of human notions into it.

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            In religious terms, humanit is created in God's image.
            We derive metaphysical concepts of masculinity and femininity from human beings and not newts for this reason.
            In secular terms, "we are the universe experiencing itself".
            We are more conscious than seahorses and spiders and so on. If you're going to describe consciousness, you're going to describe human beings.

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            Anthropocentrism is moronic and you're begging the question

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            Do you read philosophy?

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            Masculinity and Femininity are cultural constructs which have some basis in human biology, not some fundamental principles of reality. Take your metaphysical woo somewhere else

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            So no?
            Where do your opinions derive authority from?

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            From reason

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            How can you be so sure? You should do everything you can to empower your rational faculty. Read the text concerning these topics instead of just shouting about what you think is moronic.

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            Which text ?

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            Plato, Kant, Augustine, Jesus, Moses. Any of them.

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            God is not some being in the clouds who changes clothes
            God is eternal, immutable and unchanging

            Oh yeah, why do you refer to God as he instead of she then?

            its more respectful than saying "it", as "it" usually applies to inanimate objects
            in gendered languages it is the default for words to be masculine (NOT male)
            and not every language distinguishes between animate and inanimate pronouns (he/she/it)

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            Alright so God is unchangeable and has no gender, Jesus is God, why is Jesus a man?

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            oh sorry, every I said was from an Islamic perspective

            but to answer your question, the masculinification of god is a hellenic interpolation into Christian teachings

            Jesus being called son of god wouldnt have been much of an issue among israelites (semantic adoptionism) but this takes an entirely different meaning in liht of the Greek/Roman pantheon

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            Biological maleness is an earthly manifestation of the primacy of masculine attributes. Lordship is masculine. God is a lord, and a creator. As a human being he probably manifested as a healthy man and not a sterile hermaphrodite for this reason.

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            >God has some masculine attributes that I like but doesnt have other attributes I dont like
            sounds arbitrary to me, but I'm sure you can give me some references from the bible saying how god the FATHER is not a MAN

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            It was never an issue to me so I didnt bother looking for it tbqh

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            I accept your concession

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            Why

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            if gender applies to god then gender is not created
            God exists eternally with his attributes, if gender was one of his attributes than that too would be eternal

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            Oh yeah, why do you refer to God as he instead of she then?

  3. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Gender - male and female - is a fleshy biological concept, not divine. The male gender is the earthly, biological embodiment of the primacy of masculine characteristics. And the female gender is for feminine characteristics. Each shares a portion of the other.

    Similarly - Oneness and Rulership are *masculine* qualities. An Communicatedness and Distributedness are feminine qualities.
    For this reason, two thirds of the trinity use explicitly masculine terminology - god the father is oneness, and god the son is authority, is lord - and the third tends to be depicted as a dove whose gender is ignored.
    But then the mother of god - revered above the angels, but lesser than god - is held up, i think, as an acknowledgement of femininity's place in the divine hierarchy.

    israeli mysticism says God has 11 masculine attributes and 1 feminine, and that when god communicates with creation, he's acting in the capacity of this feminine attribute.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      >An
      And

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Oneness and Rulership are *masculine* qualities. An Communicatedness and Distributedness are feminine qualities.
      Source - i read julius evola and he quoted all the necessary people

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Hermaphroditism (as a concept and not a biological deformity) is actually a common theme in esoteric philosophy because it represents the unification of opposites; i.e. the unified male-female figure isn’t bound to the subjective experiences of either side

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        Right, I don't think this conflicts with what I said.

  4. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    >encompasses all attributes
    false who told you that

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      >God cannot be a certain thing I dislike despite being omnipotent
      why? he can be whatever he wants and stop being it whenever he wants thus he encompasses everything

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        The truth is that you dislike men, because you have an issue with authority generally. It's not that god can't be a thing. It's that he isn't and that bothers you.
        You might as well complain about water being wet.

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          Top kek at you trying to go on some moronic tangent about authority because you lost the argument

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            >top kek
            ^
            Literal shrieking feminist, hating God because he represents authority, a masculine trait.

  5. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Doesn't necesarrily have a gender or at least not by our standards, but in the bible all members of the trinity use male pronouns, with Jesus becoming incarnate as a man.
    So, even if technically doesn't have a gender, the Holy Trinity identifies as male.

  6. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    How many angels can dance on the head of a pin?

  7. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Traditionally referred to as male for respect reasons, but He isn't human. He's beyond gender.

  8. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    BBC

  9. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Which God, God of Israel? Clearly male.
    >father
    Hes male.

  10. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    The God of Abraham, Moses, David, Jesus etc. is male
    The God invented by whatever philosopher came up with the idea that God must be "omnipotent" and "encompass all attributes" is either no gender or both gender or whatever over word salad bullshit the aforementioned philosopher can put together.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      God is beyond gender

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        Sounds like something that absolutely never would have been said by an ancient Hebrew

  11. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Pangender

  12. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Gender is a completely made-up concept, which does not exist.
    Since God is not an animal, he does not have a sex.
    However, it is a known fact that when God walked the earth He was male in nature.

  13. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    I dont know what you morons are on about. But God of Israel who wants gays and sorcerers put to death is male.
    Stop recreating your God when the bible clearly states hes male.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      God calls sinners to repent and "die" to themselves in the way that nature calls base jumpers to go splat.

  14. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    The idea that sex and gender are separate, and that masculinity and femininity are social contructs, is itself a philosophical construct.
    We call these things "rational" and even "common sense" because common sense is itself - by definition - dependant upon commonly held beliefs, which inevitably trickle down from the institutions that 90% of educated people get filtered through.

  15. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    If you're anti-christian:
    Jung - man and his symbols
    Evola - the hermetic tradition
    If you're pro-christian:
    Report to the nearest parish which resists rainbow flags and woman priests.
    >but they're biased
    Woman priests are biased too. You're not going to get a defense of tradition from a progressive feminist.

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