using his typical Jesuit doublespeak, the Pope has essentially let priests do what they want on a case-by-case basis regarding blessing same-sex union...

using his typical Jesuit doublespeak, the Pope has essentially let priests do what they want on a case-by-case basis regarding blessing same-sex unions, while not outright saying that he supports them.

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/10/02/world/francis-same-sex-unions-intl-latam/index.html

very scandolous. I just dont know what to think anymore.

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  1. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    The Vatican has fallen. Billions must protest.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Where are the Bishops of substance? Why aren't the Catholic laity literally protesting in the streets? I am asking these questions earnestly.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        There are many Bishops opposing this.
        Usually, pious Catholic laity tend to have a certain amount of respect for the hierarchy, but if the hierarchy goes full heretic, I think this will diminish and some conflicts are happening already.

  2. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Marriage is a sacrament and Francis upholds that the sacrament of marriage is man and woman. Whether or not gays want to say an Our Father as some sort of friendship ceremony isn't relevant even though CNN doesn't understand this.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      because of the ambiguity of his language, this will become widespread and priests will start blessing same-sex couples. mark my words

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      He’s done nothing wrong.

      >LOFTON LOFTON LOFTON! I need my e-theologians to explain this!
      >*uploads a 45 minute video about being charitable*

      What will it take for tradcaths to finally realize that maybe this whole 'infallible vicar of Christ' thing isn't actually that great of an idea?
      It seems like they're willing to put up with anything at this point. No matter what, they always have an excuse. Is there anything the Pope could say or do that would be too far?

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        If Catholics thought like that, then Catholicism wouldn't have survived when all those inbred Medici Popes were having orgies in the Vatican

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          >If Catholics thought like that, then Catholicism wouldn't have survived when all those inbred Medici Popes were having orgies in the Vatican
          Those Popes may have been morally corrupt, but they didn't hold heretical beliefs. We're in uncharted waters now.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            >who is Gregory VII

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          The Borgias and such were personally corrupt, but, as far as I'm aware, they didn't encroach on matters of faith and morals by releasing ambiguous statements in regard to the blessing of homosexual unions.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            >who is Boniface VIII

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            >who is Gregory VII

            Indeed, who are they?

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        It doesn't really matter what they think now. Francis has been on the throne for so long, I think I read that 70% of people in authority have been appointed by him. It's not like there'll be much left to split off soon. So I don't get who exactly they'll go with. Will a bunch of parish priests secede (with no legal claim on any church properties or funds) and elected an antipope in their garage?

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          The resignation of Benedict more seems like a coup as time goes on, considering he died like ten years after his resignation, and it was an instant realignment of the Vatican with a hard swing to liberalization.

          I think the fact they're scrounging for Priests means that the chud faction in the church could survive. Although the "celibacy" of the priesthood does make it pretty susceptible to homosexual subversion.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            There's really no path left now. He went in and dismantled a lot of groups that were hotbeds of chuddieness.

            Unfortunately he doesn't realize he's gorbachov at the moment. CC fundamentally lives on it's conservatism and sidestepping major issues, like his theologian referenced recently. It will unravel now that he's taken the lid off, same as the USSR did.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        Looks like Luther, Zwingli and Calvin were right about the identity of Antichrist.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          >when you already embraced what catholics only catching up

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            Lucky for Protestants. They all aren’t in one church. If heretics try to take over they can get kicked out and they form their own satanic church. Or the Christians can leave and form their own church. Papists are all under one institutional church. They are screwed.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        Looks like Luther, Zwingli and Calvin were right about the identity of Antichrist.

        Luther, Zwingli and Calvin were satan worshippers.
        The Orthodox Church is the way to the Kingdom of God.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        Papal infallibility holds for a very limited circumstance. There are basically two statements called "ex-cathedra" both about the Virgin Mary.

        There have been bad Popes in the past, even heretic ones. The Church survived them.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          I don't think there's surviving this one. Francis opened the flood gates to an increasingly permanent liberalism.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      > as some sort of friendship ceremony isn't relevant even though CNN doesn't understand this.
      You’re the one who doesn’t understand. Francis is being deliberately vague here for the purpose of allowing these things to happen without drawing criticism on himself and being (rightly) labeled a heretic.

      This letter basically says, “Well you can’t bless it strictly as a marriage, but there are tons of other blessings you can give, just use your imagination.” *wink wink* I’m honestly glad that I converted in a time where the Catholic Church has such a blatantly evil Pope because otherwise I might have been lured in.

  3. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    He’s done nothing wrong.

  4. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >LOFTON LOFTON LOFTON! I need my e-theologians to explain this!
    >*uploads a 45 minute video about being charitable*

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Here you go.
      https://www.youtube.com/live/U0GqHond2t0

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous
  5. 7 months ago
    Dirk

    Come home

  6. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >very scandolous. I just dont know what to think anymore.
    Stop worshiping a israelite in the sky and a communist pope.

  7. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Is that a timex?

  8. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >fudposting outside of Oyish
    That’s a paddlin

  9. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Jesuit
    Reformation called, it wants its schizo conspiracies back.

  10. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why don’t Oyish posters just admit their religion is homophobia and that they pick and choose which faith conforms to their religious anti-gay notions

  11. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    How far does a Pope have to go before he gets removed from his office and even the church? Are there any protocols for when a Pope goes rogue, or are Roman Catholics expected to believe that the Pope is always valid (if not necessarily always right), simply because he is the Pope and spiritual successor of Saint Peter?

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      There's a tradition of electing an antipope and putting them in charge, making them the pope and making the old pope an antipope. And there's nothing stopping a former pope from being excommunicated.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >How far does a Pope have to go before he gets removed from his office and even the church?
      Far enough to get secular leaders to sponsor an Antipope. This might actually happen due to Francis dragging his feet on making George Floyd a saint, allowing female clergy, accepting the primacy of homosexual unions, and other things that Der Synodaler Weg and literally every Christian-majority countries governments want done.

      This thing is that in this day and age the Pope is less geopolitically important so everything is just about ideology. The forces of Liberalism can wait a few more years before getting what they want, so there's no need for an Antipope.

      >Are there any protocols for when a Pope goes rogue
      Yeah, you kill him and everyone pretends the other guy was the one that the israelite deity wanted all along. This has happened like seventy times. Papal Succession is a complete joke.

      >are Roman Catholics expected to believe that the Pope is always valid
      Yes. The Pope is the Vicar of Christ and the word of God. He is always correct about everything and to say otherwise is a Modernist Heresy.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        You don't get how the papacy works.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        >dragging his feet on making George Floyd a saint
        Wait is this actually a thing people are proposing?

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          Yes.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          I am sure some Protecuck Black person church already did lol

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            Nope, no saints in Protestantism 🙂

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            Lutherans and Anglicans still do the Catholic saints thing. I am not sure if they actually canonize new ones, though.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            The vast, vast majority of Protestants do not

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous
      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        The George Floyd thing shouldn't happen, because he wasn't a Catholic.

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          So? Every church has saints that weren't part of their denomination. Catholicism has loads of them.

  12. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Sviatoslav's papacy will save us.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Honestly I've wondered this for a long time. Is it licit to have a Pope come from a different rite than the Latin one? Is it licit for him to celebrate Byzantine mass in the Vatican?

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        It is indeed licit. Gregorio Pietro XV, patriarch of the Armenian Catholic Church (which uses its own Armenian rite), had pretty good chances to become a Pope.

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          Could it spell an end to the clerical celibacy of the Latin Rite if another's is represented in the Papacy?

  13. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    You don't understand, those things have been happening for a long time right now. Lots of less-than-orthodox priests doing all sorts of sacrilege.

    Overall I'm positive about the future of the Church. A big crunch is coming when all the boomers die off. Catholicism will become very small and that will bring forth a return to its roots.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Overall I'm positive about the future of the Church. A big crunch is coming when all the boomers die off. Catholicism will become very small and that will bring forth a return to its roots.
      Will it? All I see are ravonious jackals licking their chops licking their chops like in this thread while the whole thing implodes

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Isn't the goal of Roman Catholic Christianity to effectively dominate the Earth, building Christ's kingdom in dominionist/theonomist terms? I know some Protestants are like that, too, but I thought the idea was inherited from Catholicism.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        NTA but that idea died with the reformation, even if it took centuries for some Catholics to admit it. If there is unity in the future, it will be by common diologue and an agreement on only the most basic fundementals

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Isn't the goal of Roman Catholic Christianity to effectively dominate the Earth, building Christ's kingdom in dominionist/theonomist terms?

        I don't know if I even understand your question. Would that ideal, nonetheless, be contradicted by a decrease in the church? And if the progress of history is supposed to follow the construction of such ideal, can we say this development contradicts it since we don't know what moment God appointed as the ending?

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        Insanity. The Church has never been capable of such a thing, regardless of era or political system. At best it worked alongside Charlemagne to establish a European empire.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Isn't the goal of Roman Catholic Christianity to effectively dominate the Earth, building Christ's kingdom in dominionist/theonomist terms?
        That meme has been dead for centuries.

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          If circumstances became favorable again, you could bet that they would institute inquisitions and crusades, once more. Burning at the stake, having previous precedents, is not an impossible return, either. They just don't go for that anymore, due to the current styles of governance in usage.

  14. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    >anti-semitism is worse than blasphemy
    >t. pope Francis

    Jesus fricking Christ what the hell Catholics?

  15. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    The world is pozzed because of cringe atheism, christianity is our revolt against the modern world they said. Meanwhile..

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