Trinitarianism is unbiblical. God can't be less than itself.

Trinitarianism is unbiblical. God can't be less than itself.

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  1. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Are you a protty or a muslim?

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      I have no religion

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        When why do you care about what the israelites in denial believe?

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          Debating them

          so protestant

          No

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        so protestant

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      The bulk of Protestants also follow trinitarianism Pablo

  2. 6 months ago
    JWanon

    You are right

  3. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Trinitarianism is unbiblical. God can't be less than itself.
    Correct. But Trinitarians choose their religion over Jesus. Jesus talked about this type of person. Jesus was very clear he isn't God.

    • 6 months ago
      JWanon

      This. He directed all worship to Jehovah.

      Paul said that any obeisance given to Jesus is to "The Glory Of God The Father." (Philippians 2:11)

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        Jesus is the mailman; our gateway to the divine. We can't even begin to comprehend God, but we can attempt to comprehend the Holy actions of His Messengers.

        • 6 months ago
          JWanon

          True

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          This is the same thing all polytheists say. You think when an intelligent, educated Hindu prays to a lingam that he believes that the stone lingam itself is divine? No, that's just a gateway to Shiva, the highest deity who's so transcendent and magnificent that it's impossible to approach him directly. This is the same logic at work behind worshipping intermediary deities and dead pious men too. If God is so infinitely, categorically above us then how could we possibly approach Him directly? Well maybe He has lesser emanations or incarnations or manifestations or avatars that are more human, more recognizable to us, and we can approach Him through those lesser deities. If God is so infinitely, categorically above us and I've committed x, y and z sins, how could I possibly repent directly to Him, how could I possibly be worthy of having my prayers heard by Him (an insult to God's mercy btw)? Well that guy who just passed away sure was devout, maybe if I pray to him and ask him to pray to God on my behalf that will work. Even tree-worshipping pagans didn't think the Irminsul was literally divine.

          And the idea that the son is somehow between God and man and is an intermediary, a gateway through which we can approach God, completely demolishes orthodox trinitarianism. How can the Father and the son simultaneously be coequal on the one hand and the son be suspended between God and man and less unknowably transcendent on the other?

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            >No, that's just a gateway to Shiva, the highest deity who's so transcendent and magnificent that it's impossible to approach him directly
            I mean in the mind of a Shavist this is the case ofc, not in reality

  4. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    >trying to delimit God with the logic he created

  5. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Yes, it is I, the prophet Anon, declaring that the omnipotent God CANT do something

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Now explain how substitutional atonement works, or whatever your soteriological theory is. It's always God can do or be anything because He's God until it comes to the question of why the "incarnation" was necessary in the first place, then there are suddenly all sorts of things God can't do, like forgive sinners directly without pretending they're other people, forgive sins without a blood sacrifice, or give someone who has committed even one sin anything less than eternal torment in Hell.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        He COULD do all that but doesn’t want to lol
        Why is this so hard for you?
        I had an orthodox friend emphatically tell me “we’re not just toys to God”
        But I just said “we are lol”
        What does it matter? We’re all toys to the natural order, or fate, or God.
        >does the thing formed say to he that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus?
        Ultimately God hates sin infinitely and loves good infinitely and thus the substitutionary infinite atonement is required for the plan he* chose.

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          The usual language you see from prots when they explain their soteriology is that God can't forgive sin without punishing it since that would be unjust. Which sort of implies that God is constrained by some Platonic ideal of justice. Maybe you personally don't believe that but it's something I've run into a lot.

          I'm not taking any issue with predestination btw. Just the opposite, I'm pointing out that Prots tend to lean on God's sovereignty when it comes to defending trinitarianism but to implicitly denigrate that sovereignty when it comes to their rational arguments for their soteriology.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            God, being perfect perfection and ultimate reality itself, and also a being with free will, is that which he is because he chooses to be so
            But also being perfect perfection, there is nothing that can cause him to renege his nature which he chose to be from infinite eternity past.
            Therefore, there is nothing which God
            >won’t do because he cant*
            (Which is to be constrained by something outside himself)
            Instead, there are things which God
            >can’t do because he wont*
            (He chooses to never do that thing and will never renege)

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            >(He chooses to never do that thing and will never renege)
            Did He choose to give israelites the law?

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            The Law =/= the Nature of God.
            God certainly changes his mind in regards to earthly affairs.
            Though he himself foresees all occurrences.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            So God CAN change His mind? How does that mesh with this
            >(He chooses to never do that thing and will never renege)

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            >He chooses to never do THAT thing
            THAT thing
            there are things which God won't do because he chooses not to and will never renege
            But this is in the realm of things like omnibenevolence, hating sin, omnipresence, etc.

  6. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    2>1
    2+1=3

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      What? Jesus is 1 and the Father is 2? I don't get your logic.

  7. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Modern scholarly consensus is that John has been debunked, and isn't canon any more.

    Nice try though.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      >experts say

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        https://college.unc.edu/2020/03/gospel-of-john/

        >In a paper published on March 2 in the Journal for the Study of the New Testament, UNC-Chapel Hill religious studies assistant professor Hugo Mendez explains for the first time that the texts were likely written by multiple authors falsely claiming to be a single person close to Jesus. Mendez’s findings also call into question the existence of the so-called “Johannine community.”

    • 6 months ago
      JWanon

      https://college.unc.edu/2020/03/gospel-of-john/

      >In a paper published on March 2 in the Journal for the Study of the New Testament, UNC-Chapel Hill religious studies assistant professor Hugo Mendez explains for the first time that the texts were likely written by multiple authors falsely claiming to be a single person close to Jesus. Mendez’s findings also call into question the existence of the so-called “Johannine community.”

      Proof ?

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/0142064X19890490

        The Love of Christ never needed 4 gospels. It's moronic. Some texts are obvious larp for different audiences. Hate when people pass off canon as the word of Jesus, when the Word's been so corrupted.

        • 6 months ago
          JWanon

          >The Love of Christ never needed 4 gospels

          It did. An event must be reported by several witnesses.

          >Some texts are obvious larp for different audiences.

          Yes, Jehovah wants his Word to be available for all.

          >Hate when people pass off canon as the word of Jesus

          Same

          >when the Word's been so corrupted.

          The Gospels are inerrant

  8. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    1x1x1 = 1

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Multiplilism
      Absolutely heresy.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      I don't get your logic. Trinitarianism is 1<1.

  9. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    All Abrahamic religions are nonsensical dogshit based of lunatic ravings of tribal goatfrickers.
    Why do people give that shit so much thought thousands of years later when you can just read real philosophers?

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Debating people and changing people's minds

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