Traditional Catholicism.

FSSP, SSPX, RSI, or Diamond tier? What are your thoughts his?

I honestly can't make heads or tails of this but I think RSI's take makes the most sense so far.

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  1. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    On this topic, I choose to be a peasant. I just go to any Latin mass. Have for 15 years with my wife and children. I know that there are arguments, but I don't have the time to understand them. God will judge me as He will.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >I don't have the time to understand them. God will judge me as He will.
      We should all think on this quote, and then ponder what Jesus meant when he said "broad is the way that leadeth to destruction"

      Do you have an opinion about OP or have you just come to pluck motes from the eyes of others? As I said I think the RSI stance makes the most sense. [...]
      In short it (RSI's stance) is this: the Vat2 hierarchy hijacked the judicial structure of the Church and they have to be resisted just like you should resist someone who hijacks a plane. I find it interesting that this is like what Christ did against the Pharisees and Sadducees.

      You are just protestants

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        So what, you actually support the Novus Ordo? Or I guess you could be orthodox?

  2. 5 months ago
    Ο Σολιταίρ

    >I don't have the time to understand them. God will judge me as He will.
    We should all think on this quote, and then ponder what Jesus meant when he said "broad is the way that leadeth to destruction"

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Do you have an opinion about OP or have you just come to pluck motes from the eyes of others? As I said I think the RSI stance makes the most sense.

      On this topic, I choose to be a peasant. I just go to any Latin mass. Have for 15 years with my wife and children. I know that there are arguments, but I don't have the time to understand them. God will judge me as He will.

      In short it (RSI's stance) is this: the Vat2 hierarchy hijacked the judicial structure of the Church and they have to be resisted just like you should resist someone who hijacks a plane. I find it interesting that this is like what Christ did against the Pharisees and Sadducees.

      • 5 months ago
        Ο Σολιταίρ

        >Do you have an opinion about OP or have you just come to pluck motes from the eyes of others?
        the actual teaching is not to pluck motes from your brother's* eye. I didn't respond to my spiritual brother.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          So no. You don't have anything of value. God bless you.

          >FSSP, SSPX, RSI, or Diamond tier?

          GO INGEST YOUR E D F, AND D S L O, AND ABSTAIN FROM A S D F FOR A FEW MONTHS.

          Meaning what? Don't you consider yourself a traditionalist? Or no? What do you think about the Church post Vat2?

          Union of Scranton

          I don't think think this is it Dirk.

          • 5 months ago
            Dirk

            Old catholicism is consistent where radtrads are not

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >reform of the Church with constitutional participation of the laity;
            ? Sounds like democracy. But The Church is a monarchy obviously.
            >adherence to the State against the attacks of Ultramontanism;
            Yeah, nah.
            >rejection of the Society of Jesus;
            Nah. The Jesuits had many great saints and did fantastic work. The order might have become corrupted but it has good roots.
            Sorry Dirk that's a no from me bud. I thought you were some sort prot anyway?

          • 5 months ago
            Dirk

            Justify Vatican 1

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            > 1: The council's main purpose was to clarify Catholic doctrine in response to the rising influence of the modern philosophical trends of the 19th century. In the Dogmatic Constitution on the Catholic Faith (Dei Filius), the council condemned what it considered the errors of rationalism, anarchism, communism, socialism, liberalism, materialism, modernism, naturalism, pantheism, and secularism.

            > 2: Its other concern was the doctrine of the primacy (supremacy) and infallibility of the Bishop of Rome (the Pope), which it defined in the First Dogmatic Constitution on the Church of Christ (Pastor aeternus).

            Rationalism contradicts the Truth of the Divine Revelation of our Lord Jesus Christ and the adherence that must be given to this Revelation (scriptural and traditional) as is warranted by faith in the same Revelation. The essential problem, as far as I can tell intuitively, with rationalism is that it denys original sin. All of the other errors mentioned in 1 flow out of rationalism.

            2 is necessary as a way of combating the effects of 1. The rise of rationalism and it's consequent ideologies began to undermine the the adherence in men's souls to the authority of our Lord and His Vicar on earth and so need to be re-emphasized. Understand, the decision of the council did not fallen from Heaven. It only defined, codified and formalised what had been the universal belief of the faithful for many ages passed.

            This is not an attempt at a substantive justification. I'm not a theologian nor an ecclesiological scholar. This is just my opinion, obviously. I recommend, if you want to see why it was necessary and find more substantive justifications, reading some of the documents from the council or some of the papal documents from that era.

          • 5 months ago
            Dirk

            It established the retcon of papal infallibility and excommunicated those who pointed out the lie
            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignaz_von_D%C3%B6llinger?wprov=sfla1

            From an historical standpoint it's untenable, much more so than Vatican 2.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Early in 1869, Döllinger's Letters of Janus (written in conjunction with Huber and Friedrich) began to appear. They were at once translated into English. The disparaged the Syllabus and its incompatibility with modern thought.
            To defend "modern thought" over and against the teachings of an authentic Pope smacks of Freemasonry to me. If he wasn't one, to say the least his views are erroneous.

            >Döllinger headed a protest by forty-four professors in the University of Munich, and gathered together a congress at Munich, which met in August 1870 and issued a declaration adverse to the Vatican decrees.
            At which point they might as well be Protestants imo.

            >"As a Christian, as a theologian, as an historian, and as a citizen," he added, "I cannot accept this doctrine."
            Notice in the freemasonic perspective he could be all those things, but he neglected to mention "as a Catholic." I believe that's indicative. If he were to think of himself as a true Catholic and not some liberal, he would adhere to the full, solemn authority of the Peterine See and not go about undermining with his liberalism because he would understand the poisonous cancer it is in the Mystical Body of Christ and the grevious error it represents, as well as the eternal evil it does to souls who are ensnared by it. He just doesn't seem to get the idea that the teaching authority of the true papal magisterium is the closest thing we have to the mind of Christ who promised us the gates of Hell would not prevail against His Church and the Spirit would teach us all things. Nor does he seem to understand the ramifications of original sin that outside the Church's magisterium there is only error. There is but one Way, one Truth, and one Life and it is towards Christ, by and Through Christ, and in Christ.

          • 5 months ago
            Dirk

            Bozo

  3. 5 months ago
    Dirk

    Union of Scranton

  4. 5 months ago
    ࿇ C Œ M G E N V S ࿇

    >FSSP, SSPX, RSI, or Diamond tier?

    GO INGEST YOUR E D F, AND D S L O, AND ABSTAIN FROM A S D F FOR A FEW MONTHS.

  5. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Maybe get a life instead.

  6. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's all just larping by shut in hispanics baffled that there are non-white protestants

  7. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    It seems you guys have about as much a clue as me.

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