To us there is but one God, the Father.1 Corinthians 8:6.

How come most Christians disagree with the Bible when it clearly teaches Jesus is not God; that only the Father is God?

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  1. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Stop cherrypicking the bible to push faulty theology.
    Philippians 2:6-11
    Though he was God,[a]
    he did not think of equality with God
    as something to cling to.
    7 Instead, he gave up his divine privileges[b];
    he took the humble position of a slave[c]
    and was born as a human being.
    When he appeared in human form,[d]
    8 he humbled himself in obedience to God
    and died a criminal’s death on a cross.

    Not to mention the bilion times Jesus takes God's name 'I AM' to Himself.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Cite bible verse to Christian that debunks their dogma
      >they cite other bible verses that preserves it
      >they don’t realize they just showed the bible contradicts itself
      every time

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      What do you mean cherry picking? This is a very straightforward statement. There is one God and it's the Father. It's like stating thou shalt not steal, and you coming in saying oh don't just cherry pick and trying to post scripture which allows you to steal.

      Philippians talks about how Jesus did not feel it right to grasp equality with God.

      I see you'd rather talk about ambiguous statements and mistranslations to try and explain away this very straightforward crystal clear statement
      Only the Father is God. But why not just accept what the Bible has to say instead of trying to prove it wrong?

      >“To us there is but one God, the Father.”—1 Corinthians 8:6.

      Crystal clarity. No cryptic nature to it. No way to mistranslate it. Extremely straightforward. As straightforward as thou shall not steal. I know I shouldn't steal. Easy. And only the Father is God. Easy.

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        >To us there is but one God, the Father.
        And thus marked the end of 1 Corinthians 8, the shortest chapter in the Bible at only six verses in length.

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          Sad attempt. That would be like me quoting "thou shall not steal" and then you saying "and thus ended the ten commandments", in mockery as you try to cite other scripture that allows you to steal. Nonsensical.

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            If there were several other verses in the Bible they explicitly and unambiguously said you are allowed to steal, it might be a possibility worth investigating.

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            Same if they were explicitly and unambiguously stated declarations that Jesus is God. But all we have are convoluted things that get twisted.
            Meanwhile, we have this
            >"To us there is but one God, the Father.”—1 Corinthians 8:6.
            There are hundreds of other instances where Jesus explains he's not God, But this is perhaps the most indisputable. He was even accused of making himself out to be God in John 10:31-37. He defended himself against the accusation. It's sad today so many Christians still agree with his accusers though.

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            >There are no verses that say Jesus is God.
            >Well except for all the ones that do but those don't count.
            Ok moron.

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        nice satanic quads, but allow me to debunk your rhetoric lucifer
        >There is one God, the Father.
        >There is one God, the Son.
        >There is one God, the Holy Spirit.
        All of which are true, and which are claimed within the New Testament, including that epistle.
        Better luck next time.

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Let me just contradict myself three times and pretend it didn't happen: the post
          Good job

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            Where's the contradiction? One God, three persons. Been like that for 2000 years, longer if you count the TNK

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            The problem for you is that in 1 Corinthians it doesn't say that we have one God the Father and Jesus -- that's just you inserting that. It says we have one God, the Father. It then gives Jesus a different delineation, Lord. Which is a title for a king.

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            Surely it's just a cohencidence that early israelites and Christians exclusively use the word Lord to refer to God

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            Not a coincidence. God has all of these titles. Jesus has all of these same titles-- except for God. As 1 Corinthians states, there's only one God. The Father. Since Jesus does not have that title, there's a separate sentence to illustrate that. This is because the Father, or God, is greater than Jesus. As Jesus straightforwardly all states himself.
            >for the Father is greater than I.
            John 14:28

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            Uh huh
            We know the Father is greater than Jesus
            At least I do
            God is still a trinity though
            And Jesus is still God “Almighty”
            Unless you consider “almighty” to not be God

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            Got to know what this post is supposed to mean but 1st Corinthians tells us that there's only one God and that is the Father. Both Jesus and God have the title Lord. But Jesus does not have the title God. 1 Corinthians makes this clear and so does Jesus.

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            If the Bible calls Jesus “The Almighty” in Revelation
            What would that mean to you?

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            I don't know, I mean we can have a Bible study about other topics another time. Right now I'm talking about how 1 Corinthians establishes the fact there is only one God, and that's the Father. Jesus doesn't have the title "God", so it then goes on to explain how his title stops at Lord.

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            Have you considered that the Bible is not simply that single verse in 1 Corinthians? And it contains other, entire books?

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Have you considered that the Bible is not simply that single verse in 1 Corinthians?
            Absolutely. Hundreds of times it's stated that Jesus is not God. It's stated that he did not even come on his own initiative, but only because it was the will of God. It stated that he proceeded from God, and that everything he is was given to him by God. God isn't given anything. He was tempted by Satan in the desert with a kingdom. A kingdom got already owns -- The story makes no sense if he is God. He interrupted a man who called him good teacher just to correct him stating "why do you call me good? Only God is good." It makes no sense that he interrupted the man just to puff himself up randomly. Jesus would always deflect praise that should be directed towards God, as everything that he is was given to him by God. Jesus tells us that the Father s greater than him. We're told Jesus doesn't know the exact time of judgment day, but the Father does. Of course this all makes sense being that the father is God. If Jesus was God he would also know the exact hour of judgment day of course.

            Jesus is even accused of making himself out to begotten John 10:31-37, and defends himself against the accusation. The Bible is replete in the clear-cut ideas that Jesus is not God. That Jesus has a God and it is the same God Christians have.

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            Jesus is even accused of making himself out to be God John 10:31-37,

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            Imagine being more blind than a Pharisee… and being impudent about it

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            >how 1 Corinthians establishes the fact there is only one God, and that's the Father.
            But this doesn't take into account the fact that there is only one God, and that's the Son, and that there is also only one God, and that's the Holy Spirit, as maintained by the rest of the Bible. You seem to be locked in a braindead superficial Islamic way of thinking, common to many low IQ Jehovah's Witnesses. If I asked you which is heavier, a pound of steel or a pound of feathers, what would you answer?

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            If that were the case then, 1 Corinthians would clearly say there is only one God, the Father and the Son. But he limits Jesus's title to Lord for a reason. Jesus does not share the title of God with the Father. You can cross references with pretty much everything else Jesus has to say on the topic. Like when he was accused of making himself out to be God and defended himself against the accusation. (John 10:31-37)

            There is only one God, and God is the Father. Jesus is not included in this. He's relegated to the title Lord. If you were also good, it would have been logical to simply say they are both God instead of exclusively stating the father is only God, right next to the statement about Jesus.

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            >there is only one God, the Father and the Son
            But that's not true, the Father and the Son isn't a single person. There is one God, the Father; and one God, the Son; but there is no such character as one God, the Father and the Son.
            Also if Jesus never claimed to be God, why did the Sanhedrin accuse him of claiming to be God when he said "Before Abraham was, I AM [the name of Yahweh]."?

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            I think they have some sort of philosophical hangup to Christ’s divinity/the Trinity
            And nothing in the Bible could change their mind
            One day it’s
            >Paul was a heretic and invented the trinity
            The next it’s
            >Paul was a Unitarian

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            >One day it’s
            >>Paul was a heretic and invented the trinity
            >The next it’s
            >>Paul was a Unitarian
            Oh, so JW's aren't just impenetrably dimwitted, they actually practice taqiyya, thanks for explaining that to me, I always wondered whether they were possessors of unassailable ignorance or whether they were possessed by demons, now I know.

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            In my experience, JWs are dimwits, Mormons* practice Taqiyya most (like their Muslim brethren)

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            Tell me

            >There is one God, the Father; and one God, the Son; but there is no such character as one God
            Sorry, but 1 Corinthians tells us there is only one God, the Father. No mention of the Son. The Son is limited to Lord.

            is indefatigable blockheadedness and not stiff-necked malicious taqiyya.

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            >There is one God, the Father; and one God, the Son; but there is no such character as one God
            Sorry, but 1 Corinthians tells us there is only one God, the Father. No mention of the Son. The Son is limited to Lord.

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            Also you didn't answer whether a pound of steel was heavier or a pound of feathers.

  2. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Because it says Jesus is God several times in the New Testament.

  3. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Not to mention the second part of your verse
    'there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things came and through whom we live.'
    Lord and God are interchangeable as you know. Also all things came from Him So He's God.

  4. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    *5 and 1/2 verses

  5. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    *that

  6. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    >…God our savior
    >…Jesus Christ our savior
    >…God our king
    >…Jesus Christ our king
    >…God was manifest in the flesh…
    >…Jesus Christ made all things
    >…He who made all things is God

    What did Paul mean by this?

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      He meant we only have one God and it's the Father. He said that one pretty straightforwardly so there was no confusion on terms that are used both ways.

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        So God isn’t our Lord?
        Since we have One Lord, Jesus Christ?

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          This is like saying your king isn't your king if you can also say God is king. This is why Paul made it very clear in the statement that there was only one God and it is the Father. Since these terms can be ambiguous in their utility. But there's no ambiguity in the statement that there is only one God and it is the Father.

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            How is it like that?
            Do we have two lords in Heaven?
            How does that work?

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            You're going to have to take it up with Paul if you don't understand him. But the succinct statement that there is only one God and it is the Father is indisputable. You can try to dance around this all you'd like, but it doesn't matter.

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            Okay and what about in Isaiah
            >I am the LORD and beside me there is no savior
            ?
            What’s up with that, huh?

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            Not really interested in a deep dive of how varied the utility of the term "lord" is. I'm interested in the straightforward declaration that there is only one God and it is the Father.

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            >I believe in one God, the Father almighty.
            I guess trinitarians are actually unitarians now.

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            It's interesting how they'll say things like that and then turn around and contradict themselves. It's like they don't even listen to the meaning of the words they recite.

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            Explain how these two statements from the Nicene Creed are contradictory:
            >I believe in one God, the Father almighty.
            >For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
            I want to understand your position.

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            It's the ambiguity of oneness. Jesus says he wishes for all of us to be one like he is one with the Father. That doesn't mean that we all become God and we all become each other.
            Whereas "there's only one God and it is the Father" is 100% unambiguous and clear.

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            Granted you didn't take the bait, but this is still cops.

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            “LORD” in that passage is literally “Jehovah” YHVH
            Besides Jehovah there is. No. Savior.

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            It's 100% not YHVH, but it's interesting you have to resort to making things up.

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            Anon…
            https://biblehub.com/text/isaiah/43-11.htm

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            1 Corinthians is in Koine Greek not Hebrew.

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            Anon… is God “Jehovah” the LORD? Or?
            Who is Jehovah?

  7. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Still didn't figure the trinity out yet?

    Don't bother...

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      The Trinity is in contradiction to
      >“To us there is but one God, the Father.”—1 Corinthians 8:6.
      since The Trinity requires Jesus to be God as well. Since he is not God and only the Father is God, the Trinity is not a biblical idea.

  8. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    *you know the thing

  9. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    elohim is plural dumbfrick goyim who the frick are you a nobody no talent you're no israelite you miserable piece of shit you've of ruined everyone's day if you really had talent you would start a synagogue you're just a poser and a complete disgrace

  10. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    It would make more sense like that, with God and then Jesus that was his son with a woman. And the Holy Spirit being how God interacts with humans, as some time of energy.

  11. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    The bibles are bs.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Repent and read the Gospel brother. God is real without a shadow of a doubt. Things will get better.

  12. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    It says in John 10:30, "I and my Father are one."

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      >It says in John 10:30, "I and my Father are one."
      It then goes on to say his desire is for all of us to be one like he is one with the Father. This doesn't mean we all become God or we all become each other.

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        >It then goes on to say his desire is for all of us to be one like he is one with the Father.
        You mean John 17? I quoted from John 10, it's a different passage.

        "Jesus answered them, I told you, and ye believed not: the works that I do in my Father's name, they bear witness of me.
        26 But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you.
        27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
        28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
        29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.
        30 I and my Father are one."
        (John 10:25-30)

        So you see here what is meant by the Son of God and the Father being one.

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          >that they all may be one, as You, Father, are in Me, and I in You; that they also may be one in Us, that the world may believe that You sent Me.
          John 17:21
          Great so now we're all God according to your logic.

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            Thank you for posting the reference. As you can clearly see, you posted from John 17.

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            I'm not sure what relevance you think that is. You've suggested that Jesus' statement that he is one with the Father means he's God. Here is Jesus declaring he wants us all to be one like he is one with the Father. Using your own logic, this means he wants us all to be God.

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            "Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me.
            5 I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.
            6 If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned."
            (John 15:4-6)

            This is what John 17 is referring to. Anyone reading it can tell what Jesus is talking about here. All you have to do is look at the context of the Bible, if what you seek is truth.

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            Context is a no-no word for muslims and JWs

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            >When Jesus says he's one it means he's God, but only when it's convenient for me, then I'll just pretend such a statement means something else
            Glad you illustrated this for all to see.

  13. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    why do most people follow the bible at all when the old testament is taken directly from the talmud?

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      shouldn't we follow the talmud, and not the bible? In what circumstance is your nitpicking not invalidated in which jesus new testament is accounted for?

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      >the old testament is taken directly from the talmud?
      are you ignorant or baiting
      because this is an extremely embarrassing post

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