The Christian fears him. The Stoic fears him. The Platonist fears him

The Christian fears him
The Stoic fears him
The Platonist fears him

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  1. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    The Nietzschean kills him

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      The Nietzschean is a homosexual that does nothing

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        The Epicurean is a dude weed lmao moron who jerks off and eats pizza all day

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          >jerking off and eating pizza is le bad

  2. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >The Christian fears my autistic take on Epicurean dilemma
    >[gets debunked every week]
    Stoics, this guy is yours

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's never been debunked, just a lot of cope.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        It has been debunked over and over. You would have a very tough time convincing a well-read scholar that the Epicurean paradox is still analytically relevant today. Its appeal is almost purely emotional.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          I guess if the scholar is an extremely intellectually dishonest shill, which to be fair is all abrahamist scholars.

          Epicurus didn’t simply believe there was no god or that nothing matters like OP seems to imply. His philosophy was specially that the elements were four in number and possessed certain qualities of attraction based on the atoms which composed them. Epicurus pushed lots of crazy nonsense but he is only remembered here for his paradox which is just “if god real why bad thing happened” restructured. I am glad to have an actual Epicurus thread where we can shit on the guy instead of pushing his boring paradox again.

          >Epicurus wasn't perfect, therefore Plato's schizophrenia is better
          Epicurus was the best ancient philosopher even if he had some cooky ideas.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            It’s not either or. I am not a huge fan of Plato either. Galen had a commentary of Plato’s Timaeus but unfortunately it became lost over the centuries. He is remembered as a medical man but he also had lots of treatises about the ancient philosophers.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Who is your favorite ancient philosopher?

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Diogenes of Sinope probably.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Did he ever propose a model of epistemology? I got the impression he just clowned on pl*to.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            He did actually but all of his books are now lost. Mainly, I just like his short aphorisms which have survived and also his attempt at shirking everyone else’s zealous attempts at distilling truth while finding it for himself. He supposedly had a Republic style book on the soul and perfect state which was lost at the fire of Alexandria.

  3. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    His atomist scientific worldview which was directly what he founded his materialism upon was debunked by Galen but you’re probably too low IQ to understand it.

    http://classics.mit.edu/Galen/natfac.1.one.html

    Control and F “Epicurus” if you want to go to specifically the part about Epicurus.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >something something magnets
      pathetic rebuttal

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Epicurus believed that the atoms are responsible for attracting forces in nature, including in magnets and in the digestive tract. That is just so nonsensical it’s stupid. Keep in mind he isn’t saying the element of the lodestone or of the kidneys is what causes the attraction, he is saying the actual atoms are. His science is so far off from the reality it should cast doubt on his materialism in its entirety.

        >god is not real. It is le atoms that act as magnets inside your le kidneys

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        nah, it's a valid argument

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          It’s a valid argument against Epicurus and his worldview of the four elements and atoms forming a law of attraction. Most people on Oyish only know Epicurus because of his paradox and likely assume he was some “lol nothing matters” atheist and that’s the entire extent of his thought.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        it was pretty spot on

  4. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    something magnets

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Epicurus didn’t simply believe there was no god or that nothing matters like OP seems to imply. His philosophy was specially that the elements were four in number and possessed certain qualities of attraction based on the atoms which composed them. Epicurus pushed lots of crazy nonsense but he is only remembered here for his paradox which is just “if god real why bad thing happened” restructured. I am glad to have an actual Epicurus thread where we can shit on the guy instead of pushing his boring paradox again.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        >possessed certain qualities of attraction based on the atoms which composed them.
        not entirely wrong given that "attractive properties" of things like ferromagnetism are in fact due the particles that form the material, more specifically their charge, and it's interaction with the quantum fields
        given what was know at his time, he was the closest to be right

        >his paradox which is just “if god real why bad thing happened” restructured.
        no, is just pointing how properties attributed to a version of god are self contradictory with reality, what only hold as long you cling to god=omni mary sue

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