>Refutes christianity before it's inception

>Refutes christianity before it's inception

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  1. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    I already made the Epicurean paradox thread for the next few hours, homosexual!

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    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      My one is better.

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        No? We've not even had my formulation of the thread. I doubt you even came up with this format as I've seen it 100 times. I specifically generated an image of epicurus beside a generic flowchart so as to not draw away from the premise that maybe the problem is divine simplicity rather than God. You're a homosexual who blatantly undercut my more interesting thread.

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          In the marketplace of ideas called Oyish, my thread has already accrued 6 replies by five unique IPs, while your thread doesn't even have its first reply. You lost.

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            Maybe. I still have to see about that.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      >AAAA I HATE GOD AND THE WORLD WHY IS IT SO EVIL
      The world has to have the potential to become evil because for it to truly be the world it must be radically different from God.
      >NOOO AAA I HATE GOD WHY WON'T HE STOP ME FROM SHOVING THINGS UP MY ASS?!
      Because the world would only be His empty, lifeless dream if He simply forced everyone to be like Him. As I said, it wouldn't truly be the world.

      I would be ashamed to admit that I posted a thread that gets posted every single day on this board, you're pathetic. I have made interesting, original threads that I didn't bother to repost later when no one replied because this gay site doesn't deserve it. What it really deserves is endlessly rehashed bullshit like this.

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        The sad truth is that the EpicureanCHADs broke the ChristSISSIEs into complete submission. I'd fricking kneel if I were you.

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        ok, but that contradicts god's omnibenevolence.

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          There must be a God, God must be the supreme good, therefore the cosmos, good and evil alike, will serve the supreme good in the end, that's all there is to it. I don't assume that there is no good reason for struggle and disunity to exist as you do and I don't have to, especially not when that assumption contradicts everything else I know.

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            >There must be a God
            Prove it

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            I take the assumption that God exists as axiomatic. Why is this less valid than your axiomatic assumption that God must be proven? Regardless, I have many good reasons to stand by my axiom, but they will never convince infidels because they believe too strongly in theirs. It is quite obvious than the existence a lesser good must mean there is a supreme good, and that the finite must necessarily have its origin in the infinite. The only alternative to this is the pseudo-dogma of materialism: the notion that nothing precedes matter, and that matter is moved by nothing. Unprovable, and improbable, but you can't reason a materialist out of it anyway, he needs to find his own way out.

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            >I take the assumption that God exists as axiomatic. Why is this less valid than your axiomatic assumption that God must be proven?
            >whataboutism from the get go
            >finite must necessarily have its origin in the infinite.
            Prove it

            >The only alternative to this is the pseudo-dogma of materialism: the notion that nothing precedes matter
            No one said that

            >and that matter is moved by nothing. Unprovable, and improbable, but you can't reason a materialist out of it anyway, he needs to find his own way out.

            Cry less

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Prove it
            Again, you're assuming I have to. I don't accept any of your assumptions. Indeed, it's my assumption that the burden of proof is on you, but I don't argue in such a cowardly fashion. And I did offer logical arguments anyway. Either choose to engage with my post or don't waste our time here, eh?

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            >
            Commiting evil acts for a greater good is what I would expect from a being of limited potency, not an omnipotent god.

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            >god must be the supreme good
            refuted by euthyphro dilemma

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        Christgays will never move move on from epicurus sadly. I'm sure he's laughing his ass off in Hades or wherever dead greekoids from pre-christian antiquity go.

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        this dude gets it

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah that works great for non-abrahamic theology.

  2. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    This is kind of an interesting point though, I didn't read about this enough, what was Epicurus actually intending with his paradox, the omnipotent singular "God" did not exist yet for him to refute

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Platonists believed in a creator though the deity part is arguable because their creator wasn’t supposed to be an individual entity necessarily.

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        The Platonic demiurge just created and is not an omnipotent person, notably Gnosticism perfectly passes the Epicurean challenge

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          Yes but the world of forms are supposed to be the perfect realization of this plane and the link between them and us might have been what he was trying to get at. I know there are some who say there are forms of wickedness but I think that is debatable.

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            In any case I still don't understand what the "God" in these flowcharts is supposed to mean in the context of Epicurus. None of these traits were assumed for the gods of their time, so why is it an own?

  3. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    >it's another "let's ignore what a theodicy is" and pretend no one has ever come up with a single answer to the problem of evil thread
    A cure for insomnia.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Copeodicy more like. Christians don't have one. That's kind of the problem. At least back in Epicurus time the Plaronists had emnanations to fall back on. The Christian God has the worst character flaw of all; he's a mary sue.

  4. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    >if God is le real.... why are things... LE BAD?

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Well? Why are things bad?

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        its not all bad, you should take a look at the things that are le good.

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          Yes, but why are there bad things at all?

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            why not

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            god's omnibenevolence, omnipotence and omniscience?

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            yeah? so what

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            So why are there bad things?

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            its womens fault, pandoras box, the apple and the snake, all womens fault. The ancients understood this.

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            god created all those things, or do you deny that god is the cause of all things?

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            yeah, so what

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            So it's god's fault.

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            ok? gonna cry about it? Of course everything can eventually be traced back to the first mover, it doesn't absolve people of any responsibility or accountability.

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            I accept your concession.

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            >t.

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            Cope

  5. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Just because the world doesn't perfectly cater to humans doesn't mean it's evil

  6. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Evil
    >Good
    >Yet doesn't give a definition, or a concept, just assuming their positions
    >True
    False
    >Assuming the position of each
    Lmao. It's insane that those outside Christ, never ever question their paradigm, and blindly accepts it.

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