Nietzsche failed to understand Christianity, claiming that it was a religion of the weak, when instead at its core Christianity has little difference ...

Nietzsche failed to understand Christianity, claiming that it was a religion of the weak, when instead at its core Christianity has little difference from Nietzsche's Aristocratic Radicalism. It is a religion whose core messages proclaim the doctrine of heredity and the survival of the fittest. Consider Christ's statements: “Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit, is hewn down and cast into fire,” and “Ye are the salt of the earth, but if that salt shall have lost its savor it shall be scattered abroad and trodden under the feet of men.” Christ has a fundamentally aristocratic outlook, which Nietzsche failed to see. The Flood myth and of Noah represents the survival of the fittest, triumphing over the terrors of the storm to colonize the Earth. With his masculine energy and vitalism, Noah creates the Ark and prevents the destruction of life. Once the floodwaters go down, he leaves the Ark and brings new life and creation to the Earth. The old Christians understood all this, that's why they were so much stronger and more manly than the modern "Christian". The loss of these men is one of the greatest tragedies of history.

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  1. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    lol. Good (shit but at least its kind of funny shit) thread anon. Here is your (you).

  2. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    >I grew up in the church and loved it
    >became atheist in high school
    >loved Nietzche philosophy
    >rediscover God
    >realize being Christlike is being the Übermensch

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      on point fren

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Had a very similar experience to you but probably worth more mistakes.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        Literally me

        based.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Literally me

  3. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Nietzsche is a christtard who thinks jesus was the greatest man ever, when he says “christianity” he means Paul and the church not the teachings of yeshua.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Reading Paul's books you can see his self righteous pharisee nature come out a little despite being guided by the Holy Spirit

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        >despite being guided by the Holy Spirit
        I have bad news for ya

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        >despite being guided by the Holy Spirit
        I have bad news for ya

        He does say numerous times stuff to the effect of "This is not God speaking right here, but I'm telling you this because I think it's good advice." He doesn't hide it.

  4. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Nietzsche understood Christianity well enough to knoe that the last Christian died on the Cross.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      this guy gets it

      always makes me lol at how christcucks seethe over the line 'God is dead, and we killed him', not realizing that is the very foundation of their own mythology

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        That's not what Nietzsche meant by that at all. He was saying that Christianity contained an element which ended up killing it, a self contradiction inherent in it. The early Christians actually believed but by Nietzsche's time they didn't

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          Believed? No, they had no fricking clue.

          Jesus, if he was good and he was true, was a man who wanted to share love and kindness and peace with the world. He never meant to actually sow discord and have sons and fathers arm themselves with swords and kill each other. Even I know what a metaphor.

          He spoke in parables and metaphors, and if he was not a mere cult leader, but actually a wise man, then it is clear what is meant by him being friends with Mary Magdalene, the infirm, the hated, and the lost. I wrote a post earlier on here, about how a modern day take would be that Mary Magdalene should even be a transgender girl, for just the most obvious reason. If a man in modern time with a name that was not Jesus, but a soul that was, walked with a lady like THAT.... I think I know what you'd do.

          Yes, Jesus ought to have a friend, and she ought to be a transgender girl. Now go ahead. Do it.

          Do it. I fricking DARE you. Hahahah DO IT!! DO IT!!!

          Have THAT emotion!!!! DO IT! Hahahaha oh you WILL. SOMEONE WILL, and that person will be none other than a Christian or something like it. Go ahead.

          HATE HER.

          HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE!!!!
          HATE THE TRANSGENDER prostitute WHO IS JESUS' FRIEND! HATE HER!!!!!!

          Spit on her, curse her, tell her she is FALSE. Tell her she is SINFUL! EVIL! WICKED! A MAN!
          HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HER!

          CRUCIFY HER.

          CRUCIFY KILL HATE HATE HATE HER!
          And of course, I say all this as an absolute materialist atheist.

          Jesus and I? We'd be friends. I betcha if the myth is true though, you get about ten seconds in heaven to quickly repent, just in case you were an atheist. Wouldn't be fair otherwise. Just ten seconds for any wicked man who didn't understand truth to quickly get upon their knees and apologize for every sin, every harm, every hurt, every hate, they ever committed. And sure sure, accept that the myth is true and all that. Just ten seconds is fair enough, ain't it? I sure would. If I saw Jesus, I know I'd see him as nothing but an old friend from my childhood, from when I once believed.

          But there's no hatred from me here. I'll simply apologize and flash him a meek smile.

          Only the truth is true though, so I will remain an absolute materialist as long as I exist only here on Earth, unless proven clearly otherwise.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            take a breath it's just fiction m8 don't take it so seriously

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            Oh my gosh, I'm just a writer.

            I'm smiling the entire time I write on here.
            Unlike real shouting, using all caps is as simple as just using my little pinky finger to hold down shift. No worries.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            Tryhard

  5. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    E-Catholics and neckbeard fake orthodox know nothings don't realise how the Calvinist concept of "The Elect" gives heavenly mandated target on the backs on everyone outside the radical protestant base. All these memes about muh megachurch muh no cool buildings muh joel osteen when the reality is this doctrine is, if interpreted in the right historical circumstances permission to jihad every fricker on the planet and take their shit. See Sir Francis Drake and Gustavus Adolphus for further reading on that one

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Not being capable of violence is weak but every time you use it offensively you also signal weakness and fear. When it is groups doing it in defense of a higher principle meant to organize society it undermines the authority of that principle to some degree, gains made through the violence might make up for it but the high cost is still there.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      I was raised Calvinist for a bit. Didnt like the strictness. Neither did my mom so we went back to being Lutheran

  6. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    "But Jesus answered them, “To this very day My Father is working out, and I too am working out.”

  7. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    >It is a religion whose core messages proclaim the doctrine of heredity and the survival of the fittest.
    No it doesn't. The founder said that he was coming back within a few decades and that you needed to abstain from sex and engage in radical asceticism to avoid eternal damnation. If you're going to argue that it's "Aristocratic" in the same sense that Jainism is, sure.

    >The Flood myth and of Noah represents the survival of the fittest, triumphing over the terrors of the storm to colonize the Earth.
    Judaism is about that, but no Christianity is not. You're a gentile, you're one of the cattle meant to be tamed by the superior Chosen master race.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      >no it doesn't. look at the strawman of it i made!

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        >the bible is a strawman!
        Correct. That's the problem. You're worshiping the Middle Ages, and not the divine.

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          What do you know of the divine, supernaturalist?

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      I like the theory that Jesus was actually killed as part of the Festival of Purim, where Jesus was the human sacrifice in the role of Haman and the prisoner that Pilate let go free acted in the role of Mordecai.

  8. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Bro, Jesus went on and on about how to be a little b***h and resist not evil and turn the other cheek and the meek will inherit the earth and take no thought for the morrow and on and on and on. If you find contradictory quotes, it just goes to show that Christianity is incoherent, but all the little b***h stuff is still in there.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      That's all just ancient-speak for fighting smartly. You think all those Christian warriors and kings just actually didn't know anything about Christianity and/or were just breaking its rules with zero hesitation?

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        >switches from talking about a israelite forcing gentiles to recognize that he is their equal to the israelite being the superior in the space of one sentence

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Fight smart by giving away your possessions, working double for your tormentors, and taking no thought for the morrow: no thrift, no investment, no savings
        Boy, if only we could all fight with such smarts!

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        kino post.
        man, i wanna get as good at theology and apologetics as those posters.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Christian warriors and kings
        centuries removed from the OG social justice movement, the Karlings, Arpads, and Hautevilles were less Berkeley and more Blackrock

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        And yet 99% of Christians don’t even fathom these interpretations. Why did God choose to communicate in such an outdated fashion?

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          fault of the reader.
          Christ exemplifies the same thing with His teaching and use of parables;
          if you wanted to listen, you'd pay attention and reason about it.
          if you didn't, you could misconstrue it and disregard.

          also, as with any book, you wouldn't expect someone to be able to read a lawsuit without knowledge of law; or a book full of references without those references.
          same thing.

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          I mean, is it really that hard to interpret? While I agree with OP and

          That's all just ancient-speak for fighting smartly. You think all those Christian warriors and kings just actually didn't know anything about Christianity and/or were just breaking its rules with zero hesitation?

          I've never interpreted Matthew 5:39 as a passage suggesting weakness. It's not telling someone to cry or flee, you stand there and confront them, taunting them by turning your cheek as if you were asking for another hit because the first one was thrown by a malnourished limp-wristed provincial. Historical context aside, I think that's pretty straightforward if you think about it for more than 5 seconds.

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          >outdated fashion
          Almost like the Bible was written thousands of years ago or something and was easily understood by the people contemporary to the time period or something

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        >You think all those Christian warriors and kings just actually didn't know anything about Christianity and/or were just breaking its rules with zero hesitation?
        Uh, yeah?

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          >t. guy who didn't read image

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            who'd take stock in, let alone read, israeli fairy tales whose moral message is to roll on your back and open your legs

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            t. guy who still didn't read image

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        >You think all those Christian warriors and kings just actually didn't know anything about Christianity
        Yes.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        >someone kicks you in the balls and calls you a b***h
        Ur response as a Christian? How do you fight back 'smartly'?

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          Twist my balls around and offer them the other side. Just as Jesus sayeth.

  9. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    No matter how much you hate being a surplus male in an egalitarian society it will not make Christianity real.

  10. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    >interpreting the lords words in your own vanity
    Enjoy hell.

  11. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Nietzsche failed-

    Sufficient.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      underrated

  12. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Neetchie was raised protestant, it's no wonder he didn't understand Christianity in full.

  13. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Imagine worshiping Jesus over Odin

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Odin is literally a (gender-transgressive) troony god and that's one of the few things we actually know about him

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        Of Odin‘s several identities, one uses a title similar to „gelding“ to denote that he does not perform a warrior function in a society where this was expected of men. You are abnormally fixated on trannies.

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          christer apologists insist Odin should be a virile and masculine manly man of a God otherwise he is laughable, but Jesus was celibate, homeless, and murdered by Italian policemen on behalf of angry priests.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        This is not true, and the reason that you are saying this is because of the Antiwhite delusions of a 20th century Frankfurt-School sexologist who posited that Jesus was a homosexual prostitute, the Apostles were his clients, and that Christian Mass is about consuming the officiant's semen.

        Of Odin‘s several identities, one uses a title similar to „gelding“ to denote that he does not perform a warrior function in a society where this was expected of men. You are abnormally fixated on trannies.

        One of the names for Odin is "Geldnir", which means "Gelder" not "Gelding". As in, he's the one cutting the wiener off of the animal. The wikipedia article is incorrect (fricking obviously given that it says that the English translation of "geldnir" is "gelging").

  14. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Worship self-sacrifice
    >Invited to own nothing and be pious
    I like other people to be Christians, but you are literally a cult worshipping death, self-sacrifice for the many, and the end of the world, who claims the unfit (the poor, the meek) will inherit the world

  15. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    I am sure Neetzchee understood Christianity better than some fat slob who can’t even lift the Bible over their head without being exhausted

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Sorry anon, but I'm from Oyish. I can easily lift the Bible over a 100 times.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      >implying Nietzsche could lift the Bible over his head without being exhausted
      His physical condition was notoriously pathetic.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        not to forget
        >literally bust two muscles after hitting the saddle of his horse
        >nearly died from a minor wound

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          fauci ouchie

  16. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    >B-BUT NIETZSCHE IS LITERALLY CHRISTIAN
    incoherent

  17. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    redpilled

  18. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    >failed
    >failed to see
    Nietzsche predicted the future, you can't even predict when your rabbi will return
    >“Do not seek a wife. This is what I mean, brothers: the appointed time has grown very short. From now on, let those who have wives live as though they had none, and those who mourn as though they were not mourning, and those who rejoice as though they were not rejoicing, and those who buy as though they had no goods, and those who deal with the world as though they had no dealings with it. For the present form of this world is passing away.” (1 Corinthians 7:27,29-31)
    >“The end of all things is near…” (1 Peter 4:7)
    >“…the coming of the Lord is near. …the Judge is standing right at the door.” (James 5:8, 9)
    >We who are alive, who are left until the coming of the Lord, shall not precede those who have fallen asleep. For the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a cry of command, with the archangel’s call, and with the sound of the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first; then we who are alive, who are left, shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air (1 Thess. 4:15-17).
    >Truly I tell you, this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened. (Matthew 24:34)
    2 more millennia

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      More related verses here: https://blacknonbelievers.org/jesus-failed-prophecy-about-his-return/

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        why do you trust Black folk.

  19. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    All I need to know is that when you receive a supernatural healing by drawing close to Jesus, you don’t really need to rationalize or make excuses for Him anymore. Mind you miracles don’t really equal faith, but I went from not being able to live and everything doctors prescribed making it worse, to suddenly having life and having it more abundantly.

  20. 9 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      I feel silly for talking to a png because I'm 100% certain that the person posting this isn't equipped to discuss this and probably wouldn't change their mind under any circumstances

      >no contemporaneous outsider source corroborates these claims
      so you want someone who corroborates the miraculous accounts of Jesus but without having converted? this is absurd but regardless it exists but I'm sure you'll still find a reason to disregard it

      source: The Christians as the Romans Saw Them by Robert Louis Wilken

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        So he's not the israeli Messiah, the israeli prophecies are bunk, he's just one of several israeli magicians running around Israel at the time. That means that we don't have to mutilate our genitals and give money to Israel, whew!

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          >e's just one of several israeli magicians running around Israel at the time.
          Can you name 1

          celsus is not an eyewitness to the resurrection you stupid christer, he is arguing against Christianity generations later

          what do eye witnesses have to do with what the PNG said

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah sure, the other three dudes named "Yeshua Bar Yosef" at the time, Doseos the Samaritan, Simon Bar Khoba, Judas of Galilee (new relation to Jesus's betrayer), Theudas, Simon of Peraea, Athronges, the Rabbi who had the flying laser-eye duel with Jesus, the Rabbi who converted Nero, the Rabbi who converted Augustus, the Rabbi who converted Julius Caesar, Gamaliel, Hillel the Younger, Hillel the Elder... Look, every israelite at the time was starting a cult and claiming to have magic powers.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            >what do eye witnesses have to do with what the PNG said
            celsus is not an example of "someone who corroborates the miraculous accounts of Jesus but without having converted," he is reporting what Christians believe and ridiculing it

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        celsus is not an eyewitness to the resurrection you stupid christer, he is arguing against Christianity generations later

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        >I feel silly for talking to a png because I'm 100% certain that the person posting this isn't equipped to discuss this and probably wouldn't change their mind under any circumstances

        Pre-emptive defensive posturing isn't a terribly good sign. Have you ever argued with Marxists who automatically assume anyone who disagrees with them is totally ignorant of Marx, and do you not regonize that behavior as ego protection?

        >"so you want someone who corroborates the miraculous accounts of Jesus but without having converted?"

        No, they can have converted, I'm looking for their independent accounts. We should expect these to exist, given Paul wrote 500 people witnessed the resurrected Christ. If you say anyone with such a story would've had it included in the Bible, where are the testimonies of those 500? Even a few of them? Why aren't we so much as told any of their names?

        >"but I'm sure you'll still find a reason to disregard it"

        This is, again, pretentious pre-emptive posturing. "Well hmph maybe I don't have evidence BUT IF I DID you would ignore it anyway, how unreasonable of you"

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          >I'm looking for their independent accounts
          Matthew, Luke and John are considered independent accounts that utilized Mark as a source. Secular scholarship have also had to resort to inventing a gospel called Q to account for similarities that don't exist in Mark.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Matthew, Luke and John are considered independent accounts

            So, the apostles. Still not what I asked for, unless you are counting them among Paul's 500, which even you must realize is a pathetic contortion.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        The Bible records lots of graves opening up and many dead walking around the city and appearing to many people. The central miracle of Jesus wasn't even particularly unique to him in the Biblical account itself! (Matthew 27:52-53). It's clear the story of Jesus and the Bible stories in general were much exaggerated in tellings and retellings.

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          >The Bible records lots of graves opening up and many dead walking around the city and appearing to many people.

          The Qur'an and Hadiths recount Muhammad climbing ladders to reach the various levels of h Heaven to negotiate easier prayer schedules with Allah.

          Also, flying to Medina on a winged donkey. Also, splitting the Moon in half by pointing to it.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yes, same type of cult of credulous believers, same ridiculous magic

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            >if I can't climb a latter into the 7th Heaven to negotiate with God nobody can. Help me science!!!
            Your lack of faith is pathetic. Even two bit magicians can levitate and pass through solid objects without difficulty. The Inuit shamans used to travel to the moon as a regular occurrence. Don't let yourself be held back by cheap scientism anon, your entire conception of the moon and stars was cooked up by Kissinger and filmed in a Hollywood studio by Stanely Kubrick.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Celsus...AD 175–177
        christisraelite pilpul is unreal

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        >the term maleficus can mean magical
        No, maleficu- simply means evil, you disgusting pig skinned, copper haired, guttural speaking barbarian

  21. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Nietzsche
    ok but like is this guy suppose to be a scarecrow of an incel or is he really just a guy from hundreds of years ago?

  22. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Christianity is a religion of the Truth. Remember the two commandments. Satan and his pride tempt with promises of worldly domination. I see them always in my imagination. The Church Fathers have warned against it. Only confession has helped me.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Christianity is a religion of the Truth.
      About a dozen posts ago you were lying about the Allfather because a israelite told you to hate yourself.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        That was a long time ago.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      By what process did you determine God was the good one and Satan the evil one?

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        Burning in hell. Do not be deceived.

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          Burning.... suffering? Revenge? Sadism? Hate?
          Then my question is horrifically answered.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            tho horrific!

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          God is the one who judges who is sent to hell, correct? Thus, it is by his decree people are sent to hell? Would that not qualify God as the evil one for subjecting people to such a cruel, barbaric, and eternal punishment? How could an eternal punishment ever be proportional to a finite crime? Also, God originally set up humanity to be ignorant of Good and Evil, to be devoid of free will and the capacity to judge right and wrong for themselves. It was only through the influence of Satan that man obtained free will and the ability to judge right and wrong for himself. Thus, if you view free will as a positive thing, and you view eternal punishment as a bad thing, textually, Satan appears much more likely to be "Good" and God much more likely to be "Evil".

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            Adam and Eve had free will in the Garden. Heaven is experienced as hell by the sinner. Hell also means death, the wages of sin. Timothy Pabreastsas explains that after partaking of the Knowledge of Good and Evil, Adam saw Jesus on the cross and then fell. That can be a helpful elaboration if you understand that it is supplementary to the words of the Church Fathers and the Bible and is ultimately an expression of the Word of God.

            Read this paragraph from Wikipedia. It is not very long.
            https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hell_in_Christianity#:~:text=Eastern%20Orthodox%20views

            Remember that Satan has been named the Deceiver. And remember (anamnesis, unforget) your death.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Free will
            >But doesn't have knowledge of Good and Evil
            Again, this is always the trouble with theists. They run into an irreconcilable problem, and they just ignore it. How can you have "Free Will" and the attendant responsibility for your actions if you lack the moral capacity to understand Good and Evil? You can't. If you put your small child in a garden and said "don't eat fruit from that tree", and then they go and eat it and die because they are just a small child, YOU would be responsible for the wrongful death of the child. This is very basic to the concept of responsibility and who is at fault. As it is presented in Genesis, Adam and Eve are not morally culpable for disobeying God, for they did not have the moral capacity to understand Good and Evil at the time they made the decision. Sorry, the very first book of the Bible is already a dumpster fire and no amount of apologetics can fix it.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            It has to do with pride and presumption. Some of the Fathers have said that Adam and Eve would have eventually been permitted to have TKoGE after being ready. Remember that these are elaborations intended to provoke insight. Socrates' core dictum of knowing that one does not know is another way with which a helpful understanding may be achieved.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            I can understand if you want to try to analyze the story in a while you find productive, but you have to realize that Adam and Eve wouldn't have known that "pride and presumption" were bad since they didn't yet have "TKoGE". "TKoGE" represents the difference between a wild animal killing a person for food and a morally responsible human killing a person when they know it's wrong. The wild animal has no moral accountability, and if it is caught it is killed to remove a threat, not as a punishment. The morally competent person who is caught is punished since they had foreknowledge that their action was Evil. There is fundamentally no getting around this problem, any action taken by a being or agent that doesn't comprehend Good and Evil can't be subject to moral accountability. They lack the prerequisite criteria to be held accountable. If a small infant pushes a valuable vase off a table, is the infant held responsible or is the adult who should be watching the infant held responsible? The morality presented in Genesis is fundamentally incoherent.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            Positivity and negativity are neutral terms.
            https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cataphatic_theology
            https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apophatic_theology

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            "Neutral" is a word that exists to denote being between different sides. "Positive" and "Negative" are words that exist to denote being explicitly on a particular side. You should spend some time learning what words mean.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            ?t=1844

  23. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    golem get ye gone

  24. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Nietzsche didn’t write philosophy. He wrote bad poetry, and a lot of it was nothing more than projection and fantasy.

  25. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    I mean the guy does actually praise Jesus as one of the greater people, he also praises Saints and the such who devoted themselves to the religion as Ubermensch aswell, so yeah? The only thing is stuff like Socrates died better than Jesus as a hot take.

    (Thus Spoke Zarathustra, one of the people invited to his cave was the Saint who just hung out in the woods.)

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Nietzsche sees Jesus as an interesting anomaly, someone who rejects life so totally for the "beyond world". Nietzsche doesn't say anything good about "saints", certainly not christian ones, Saints in TSZ I don't remember.

  26. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Listen, I didn't "get" the whole, "christianity is anti-life" thing until pretty recently. It's not really so much about it forbidding vices as it is about the Christian concept of heaven and how to get there. For example, one of the gravest sins in Christianity is apostatizing. You should not apostatize under the threat of death because then you will be damned but if they kill you, you will be a martyr and go straight to Jesus' side.
    The Japs realized this and ended up not killing the missionaries but forcing them to apostatize instead. If apostatizing means saving lives, then you should not apostatize. In fact, you would actually be doing the victims a favor because they will be sent straight to god.

    Ok, so imagine you are at church and suddenly it catches fire. You run out but the others are stuck inside, burning. You cannot open the door because the dumb architect made them open inward and everyone is pushing up against the door. Should you even try to help them? By letting them die, they will enjoy eternal bliss in paradise. Shouldn't you feel happy for them?
    Now, this sounds repulsive, even to christians, but logically it is true. By letting them die, you will be easing their suffering.

    Also, to go back to the apostatizing hypothetical, has it never occurred to christians just how completely and utterly selfless those apostatized priests had to be in order to do what they did? If sacrificing yourself for the sake of others is good, then those priests committed the ultimate sacrifice, far greater and more selfless than all of the saints combined. They sacrificed their very SOUL for the sake of others.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's actually very straight forward. Most Christians believe this world is a fallen world, a veil of tears, a trial meant to test one's faith before the real purpose of existence can be obtained through death (the death of Jesus to wash away sins and then YOUR death so you can reach heaven).

      Christianity is a death cult that centers on human sacrifice and at every turn is downplays the importance of life in favor of death ("Do not lay up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy and where thieves break in and steal, but lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven"). Jesus Christ's message is to forsake life, forsake this world, and to embrace death. This is the central, unambiguous message of Christ.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        not at all
        it's about loving God and loving your neighbor as yourself
        are you even Christian?

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          It can be about several things, but primarily it's about downplaying the importance of this life on this Earth in deference to the afterlife, in other words, sacrifice your worldly life and possessions and embrace your death.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        Christianity, or any Abrahamic religion, is about as subversive and pessimistic as you can possibly be. Moses, a fugitive wanted for murder, walked into the court of Pharaoh (King of Earth, son of Ra the King of Heaven) and proclaimed to be speaking on behalf of the Lord of the Heavens AND the Earth. Jesus was a carpenter who was put to death for undermining the religion of the Roman's AND the israelites - and he still won in the end. Muhammad was an analphabetic orphan who waged a prolonged war against his own tribe's main source of income and prestige, declared every generation before him to be living in ignorance, and his followers ended up toppling the two largest empires on earth.

        I don't think that most people appreciate the sheer contempt that Abrahamic religions have towards life, tradition, and society itself. To its credit, I might add.

        not at all
        it's about loving God and loving your neighbor as yourself
        are you even Christian?

        Christ also says that you should sell your shirt if needed to buy arms, that he came to bring the sword, and that his followers should forsake ther mothers and their fathers. One of the great prophets of the Bible was willing to murder his favorite son without hesitation simply because God commanded it.

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          Okay, so you're not Christian and are a gentlesir, you don't know what the frick you're even talking about
          opinion disgarded

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            I'm a Muslim pessimist, descended from a long line of Muslim pessimists. I don't think holding the world in contempt is necessarily a requirement for being a good israelite/Christian/Muslim, but it certainly adds a sense of pathos and clarity to the religion.

            It can be about several things, but primarily it's about downplaying the importance of this life on this Earth in deference to the afterlife, in other words, sacrifice your worldly life and possessions and embrace your death.

            Have to disagree. That's a very Neiztschean take on it, but I think that the afterlife is really a minor part of the Christia ethos. Jesus talks about a day of judgement, where every man is weighed by his actions and inactions. The idea of pearly gates and cherubim fluttering around with harps is a decidedly pagan/enlightenment invention. The contempt for life is a very aristocratic ideal, actually, because it places man even above his own flesh and blood. A maryter is someone who, through death, elevates his own life to an uncompromising work of art. Perhaps we should consider the possibility that God loves beauty, and not sniveling cowards who try to wiggle their way out of the one guarantee man has on this earth.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            I don't particularly care what you think when it diverges from the facts. Christ said "If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me." He said “Do not lay up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy and where thieves break in and steal, but lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust destroys and where thieves do not break in and steal. For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.”

            These are the direct words of Jesus. They are among his most prominent teachings. If you are a Christian, you MUST accept these things. Apologetics will get you nowhere.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            And I didn't even mention his "Consider the lilies" teaching where he explicitly says not to save or invest. Jesus directly says not to "toil" or "spin" but instead live like flowers or wild animals who rely on nature and not their own ingenuity. You can't escape the underlying misanthropy and embrace of preventable death that is rife all through the teachings of Jesus.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            >he says to not worry, live
            >muslim schizophrenic thinks this means die
            log off, man

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Dishonestly changes the message of Jesus when it's inconvenient
            Typical

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            Sorry you're moronic. Read any copy of critical commentary on the verse.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            >"Uhh... Uhhh... don't read the actual words of Jesus, read what some other guy wrote to cope with it"
            Are you trying to fit every moronic theist stereotype?

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            >takes YUGE bong hit
            >books are for morons bro, only I know the truth

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            >"Okay, okay, I know that's what Jesus ACTUALLY said, but what he MEANT was what I'm about to say"

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            Nah dude you're right and every other scholar in the history of theology and religious criticism is wrong
            obviously you do have a book that states your opinion? or are you an "independent scholar"

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            Can you not read the text yourself? You need a "scholar" to explain what “Do not lay up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy and where thieves break in and steal, but lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust destroys and where thieves do not break in and steal" means?

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            Sir, you are a scholar. With this groundbreaking discovery, (You) should write to Oxford or Britannica to edit the next Critical Bible.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            It clearly means salvation through work and we need to genocide every papist scum on this planet.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            Death by toil is the number one cause of preventable death anon. When Jesus tells you to become a NEET it's because he loves you.

  27. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Not sure what’s happening here but I just want to say reality is extremely frustrating and I hope whatever owns this existence has some type of mercy on us, if that’s even possible. o.o

  28. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Imagine how many millions of man-hours White people have wasted contemplating and debating israeli scripture
    lmao.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      He says, as he proves with his post that whites live rent-free in his brown brain.

  29. 9 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Is GPT useful for anything besides trolling and doing zommie homeworks?

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        skipping the actual legwork of scholarly discourse and observing a mathemtically constructed strawman of arguments you have very little intrinsic interest in, placing them in an Aristotelian duscourse against a shallow opponent.
        Its very, very useful.

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          But that's still trolling, admittedly perhaps a somewhat more intellectual way of pretending to be moronic, but that's still what it is.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous
          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            Ok based, you've got your shitpost history written down.

  30. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Spengler had the best refutation of Nietzsche in DotW. He points out that Nietzsche’s historical Christianity is simply a fake.

  31. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    William James btfo Nietzsche

  32. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    In practical terms, your post doesn't represent reality, though.
    >t. Not a Nietzchean

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