Muslims don't understand the teachings of Jesus at all.

Muslims don't understand the teachings of Jesus at all.

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  1. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    yes they generally do. what they cant accept is the trinity because their faith presents such an overwhelming concept of god as unitary. islam presents a challenge to the trinity and the trinity presents such a challenge to islam that the only possible outcome is synthesis and reconciliation, at some point in the future.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      no, Muslims don't.
      the whole quran and hadith are based around the notion that we are saps if we 'turn the other cheek'. what we must do is to bring about the conditions as cause the Qiyama.
      "The Last Day will not come before . . ."

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        Islam preaches a false Christ.

  2. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Muslims don't understand the teachings of Jesus at all.
    Like what?
    >inb4 no answer and useless OP with a useless thread

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Like in pics rel: Muslims do not understand the virtue ethics of Christ and how he presents himself as the embodiment of God's divine Wisdom, the Eternal Law of God made man.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous
      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        So is slavery and child marriage okay? Jesus never said anything about these and he is the "Eternal Law" according to Christians

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      #3

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Muslims don't understand the teachings of Jesus at all.
        Like what?
        >inb4 no answer and useless OP with a useless thread

        Forgot pic

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Paul isn't an antinomian
          Galatians literally says Jesus became a curse to lift us from the curse of the Law

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      #4

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Like what
      They believe in the docetic heresy that Jesus never died on the cross and it was somebody else or an illusion that died there instead.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      The eucharist is mentioned in the Quran and it also says that those who follow Jesus are compassionate and merciful, and that God will put them above non-believers. You'd think muslims would try to emulate those qualities but they're too inbred and low iq to have empathy.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        >and it also says that those who follow Jesus
        They think that only applies to pre-Pauline Christians

  3. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Crazy. What news from the other parts of Tamriel?

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      I saw a Turk the other day. Horrible creatures.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        Crazy. What news from the other parts of Tamriel?

  4. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah but they at least believe he existed, so I’ll take them over the willfully ignorant

  5. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    No, they believe that they understand Islam quite well.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      What? Jesus taught Christianity not Islam.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        Muslims believe that Jesus did not teach Christianity, because Christianity is a degradation of Islam, which they hold is the original Arabic monotheism that was practiced by Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden.

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah, but their Jesus is basically a complete mystery as to what halal Christ preached.

          For the second most important prophet ever, Jesus has like 7 short quotes in the Quran, most of which are just shortbytes to say hes not divine, and a prophet.

          He's not a character in the book, just a literary device to state the bare minimum description of himself, so Mohammed can get that pesky messiah out of the way.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            Holy shit, I just looked into it, and you're right. I thought it would at least crib from one of the Gospels, but it doesn't even qualify as a cliff notes version.

  6. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Jesus' teaching are straightforward:
    1. You will own nothing (Matthew 6:19, Matthew 6:31-33, Matthew 19:24, Mark 10:25, Luke 12:33).
    2. You will be happy (2 Corinthians 12:10, Philippians 4:4, 1 Peter 3:14).

  7. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Sorry who were the gospels written by?

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Not by some pedophile who lived 600 years after the fact in a location 1,000 miles away from where Jesus lived, that much is known

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        So who then? And how do we know they got it right when the gospel is the only source for Jesus’ teachings?

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          they all tell the same story the same way?

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        Whenever Islam is mentioned, a Christian turns into a liberal atheist
        >bla bla bla pedophile
        >prophecy? what's that? never heard of it

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          Legit question: lf Muhammad wanted to kill you and your wife so that he could sodomize your nine year old daughter, would you allow him to shame and dishonor you and your family just because he's the Prophet?

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            Killing indiscriminantly is haram, killing women in war is haram, killing non-combatants is haram, sodomy is haram, marriage cannot be done without the guardian of the bride, shaming and dishonoring a fellow muslim is haram, a virgin bride, even if underage, must consent to marriage, and if she is a slave, must consent to sexual relations

            All these are known from the sayings of the Prophet, who made right known from wrong, unlike Jesus in the Gospels

            So is slavery and child marriage okay? Jesus never said anything about these and he is the "Eternal Law" according to Christians

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            You didn't answer the question. Muhammad killed Aisha's family, took her as a slave, sodomized her against her will, dishonored her parents, and shamed her. If he wanted to do the same to your daughter, would you let him just because he is the Prophet?

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Muhammad killed Aisha's family, took her as a slave, sodomized her against her will, dishonored her parents, and shamed her
            From which slandering israelite did you get this information from? and why aren't you fleeing from Tel Aviv?

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            >From which slandering israelite did you get this information from?
            That would be the Quran.

            >and why aren't you fleeing from Tel Aviv?
            I'm not israeli.

            I notice, however, that you didn't answer the question. In fact, you're acting somewhat like a Liberal atheist here! Are you suggesting that Muhammad's banditry and sodomizing of a nine year old slavegirl was bad? Or are you suggesting that his revelations were incorrect?

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            >That would be the Quran.
            Provide the quote then, liar.

            Muhammad never did any such thing.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            Huh, that's strange, you still haven't answered the question. It's almost like you're scared to answer! Some "true religion" Islam is if its own adherents don't actually want it!

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            May your every deed and breath be accursed. I know you are no true Christian for it is written in the Qur'an: "You will find the nearest of them in affection to the believers those who say, "We are Christians""

            This is what you resort to in fighting Islam? Lying, slandering? Dishonesty? You only ruin yourself for what you spread

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            I don't need to resort to anything to fight Islam if you're the best it's got: you can't even stand by it when challenged to defend it.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            >No reference
            >No quotation
            >No actual facts
            >"You can't respond huh? That means I won!"
            This is laughable

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            No, the only thing laughable is this meme """""religion""""" whose adherents can't even answer simple questions about it. I came to you in good faith and asked you about """""""your"""""" religion and you buckled and fled.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            Still waiting for the source...

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            >the holy book given by the fricking prophet isnt a source on the divinely ordained one true religion
            what a joke of a religion lmfao

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            You were provided one and you got mad and dodged the question.

            Which you still haven't answered btw.

            Where in the Qur'an and hadith does Muhammad kill the parents of Aisha and sodomize her?

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            we all know you havent read the quran so he could just make some gibberish up and youd have to accept it and be forced to answer the question

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            That's odd, that doesn't answer the question! But, it does demonstrate that this joke of a religion's adherents aren't even willing to read the central text, or the word of the supposed Prophet's companions! You're supposed to memorize this stuff, and yet you reject that to live a life of atheism and vice.

            Where in the Qur'an and hadith does Muhammad kill the parents of Aisha and sodomize her?

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            Answer the question or the board will be required to recognize you as an apostate and a polytheist.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            Where in the Qur'an and hadith does Muhammad kill the parents of Aisha and sodomize her?

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            That's odd, that doesn't answer the question! But, it does demonstrate that this joke of a religion's adherents aren't even willing to read the central text, or the word of the supposed Prophet's companions! You're supposed to memorize this stuff, and yet you reject that to live a life of atheism and vice.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            You were provided one and you got mad and dodged the question.

            Which you still haven't answered btw.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            provide the verse you claimed as legitimizing your ridiculous question or frick off.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            There's too many doctrinal differences for that to happen in mass.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            >From which slandering israelite did you get this information from?
            I didn't know that al-Bukhari, Imam Muslim, Malik ibn Anas, Ibn Sa'd were israeli.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            Don't forget Ibn Hisham.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            >I didn't know that al-Bukhari, Imam Muslim, Malik ibn Anas, Ibn Sa'd were israeli
            Provide the source and reference then, where it says specifically that Muhammad killed Aisha's parents and sodomized her

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            You got your source, now answer the question. If you don't, you're just going to continue making Islam look bad.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            Just naming names isn't a citation. Where in the Qur'an and hadith does Muhammad kill the parents of Aisha and sodomize her?

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            See

            >From which slandering israelite did you get this information from?
            I didn't know that al-Bukhari, Imam Muslim, Malik ibn Anas, Ibn Sa'd were israeli.

            and

            Don't forget Ibn Hisham.

            . Why are you dodging a simple question? If Islam is so great, surely this should be an easy one.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            Where in the Qur'an and hadith does Muhammad kill the parents of Aisha and sodomize her?

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            Killing indiscriminantly is haram, killing women in war is haram, killing non-combatants is haram, sodomy is haram, marriage cannot be done without the guardian of the bride, shaming and dishonoring a fellow muslim is haram, a virgin bride, even if underage, must consent to marriage, and if she is a slave, must consent to sexual relations

            All these are known from the sayings of the Prophet, who made right known from wrong, unlike Jesus in the Gospels [...]

            This is how you provide sources

            Killing indiscriminantly is haram - https://quran.com/5/32
            killing women/non-combatants in war is haram - https://sunnah.com/muslim/32/29
            marriage without the guardian is void - https://sunnah.com/tirmidhi:1101
            a virgin bride must give consent to marriage - https://sunnah.com/bukhari:6946
            a slave must consent to sexual relations - https://sunnah.com/bukhari/89/10

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            and one more

            anal intercourse is haram - https://sunnah.com/abudawud:3904

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            So you're saying that you would in fact oppose Muhammad if he wanted to do to your daughter what he did to Aisha: "Islam for thee, but not for me".

            So, I was right, you don't actually want to live under Islam, you just wanted to throw a temper tantrum before admitting it.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            >the prophet can sin
            >but you cant
            What a strange religion.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            >the prophet can sin
            Where in the Quran and hadith?

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            >a slave must consent to sexual relations
            And [also prohibited to you are all] married women except those your right hands possess. part of Verse (4:24)
            >Killing indiscriminantly is haram
            Only for other Muslims
            >killing women in war is haram
            Only if they're Muslim women
            > killing non-combatants is haram,
            Only if they're Muslims
            >[9:5] But once the Sacred Months have passed, kill the polytheists wherever you find them, capture them, besiege them, and lie in wait for them on every way. But if they repent, perform prayers, and pay alms-tax, then set them free. Indeed, Allah is All-Forgiving, Most Merciful.
            Typical Muslim taqiyya to using abrogated verses to make Islam like friendly and humanitarian

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            >except those your right hands possess
            yes, and the slave must consent
            >Only for other Muslims
            This is not written anywhere
            >Only if they're Muslim women
            The prophet was never at war with other muslims, only with disbelievers. Killing them intentionally is haram, unintentionally is forgiven

            >Typical Muslim taqiyya
            Whoever lies against the prophet shall enter hell - https://sunnah.com/bukhari:106

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            >the slave must consent
            Here is a secondary source for this

            وإن اشترى جارية فكرهت أن يمسها أو يضاجعها فلا يمسها ولا يضاجعها ولا يطأها إلا بإذنها

            “If a female slave is purchased and she dislikes to be touched, or slept with, then he may not touch her, lie with her, or have intercourse with her unless she consents.” (Minhāj fī Shu’ab al-Imān 3/267)

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            This is just the personal opinion of a single scholar

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            Most scholars are silent on the issue. One can speculate as to why, maybe because most slaves didn't protest, due to them having a child could mean freedom. Or that the mere concept of a slave consenting is unheard of.

            But, all scholars agree that slaves should be treated kindly and justly, this could extend to not forcing them to have intercourse

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            Jesus himself is the Way, Truth, and Life (John 14:6) He made known to mankind who he was, and what following him means. It means following what is right, just, holy, and true, for he himself is the ultimate embodiment of these things.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            Okay, but he didn't give any guidance about slavery or child marriage? not one iota?

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            Jesus's statements on the universal brotherhood and equality of all mankind preclude slavery as a meaningful institution, and his statements on the sinfulness of sexuality preclude marriage period, and certainly not pedophilia for sexual pleasures, as meaningful institutions.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            Sure he did, the law of charity, which is in our hearts (Jeremiah 31:33, Hebrews 10:16) guides us in all things, through the Holy Spirit which Christ promised us, these same precepts are found also in the natural law and which the Catechism says can be informed through conscience: "Conscience is a judgment of reason whereby the human person recognizes the moral quality of a concrete act that he is going to perform, is in the process of performing, or has already completed. In all he says and does, man is obliged to follow faithfully what he knows to be just and right." (CCC 1778) Just because specific positive law isn't recorded in this manner doesn't mean we cannot understand the moral nature of these things in relation to the teachings of Jesus, who put love of God and neighbor at the heart of the law.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            You didn't answer the question. Muhammad killed Aisha's family, took her as a slave, sodomized her against her will, dishonored her parents, and shamed her. If he wanted to do the same to your daughter, would you let him just because he is the Prophet?

            Huh, that's strange, you still haven't answered the question. It's almost like you're scared to answer! Some "true religion" Islam is if its own adherents don't actually want it!

            I don't need to resort to anything to fight Islam if you're the best it's got: you can't even stand by it when challenged to defend it.

            No, the only thing laughable is this meme """""religion""""" whose adherents can't even answer simple questions about it. I came to you in good faith and asked you about """""""your"""""" religion and you buckled and fled.

            Who do you think you're convincing by lying and then quadrupling down when called out, exactly? I'm almost convinced you're a Muslim false flagging to make Christians look bad.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            tbqh the only one making islam look bad is you for not answering him. muzzies already have a bad reputation for not actually knowing whats in the quran and you reinforced that stereotype pretty forcibly.

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          >banditry are pedophilia are BASED

          [...]
          This is how you provide sources

          Killing indiscriminantly is haram - https://quran.com/5/32
          killing women/non-combatants in war is haram - https://sunnah.com/muslim/32/29
          marriage without the guardian is void - https://sunnah.com/tirmidhi:1101
          a virgin bride must give consent to marriage - https://sunnah.com/bukhari:6946
          a slave must consent to sexual relations - https://sunnah.com/bukhari/89/10

          >no no no stop reading the quran dont read the hadith islam is perfectly compatible with liberalism and atheism
          what a fricking joke of a religion lmfao

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            banditry is haram and punishable by crucifixion - https://quran.com/al-maidah/33
            marriage must have the approval of the guardian AND bride, even if she is underage - https://sunnah.com/tirmidhi:1101 https://sunnah.com/bukhari:6946

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          The only things predicting Mohammad in the New Testament are warnings against false prophets and those who would distort scripture for their own ends.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            >those who would distort scripture for their own ends
            Pericope Adulterae, Extended ending of John, extended ending of Mark, Johannine Comma, Luke and Matthew editing Mark, John 16 and 17 repeating John 15

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            The Quran has had changes and multiple versions too, even if many Muslims refuse to believe it. Also, I've always found it strange how a prophet is elevated above the messiah.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            >The Quran has had changes and multiple versions too
            Are there entire passages missing? entire chapters?

            >I've always found it strange how a prophet is elevated above the messiah
            The messiah is a prophet.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Are there entire passages missing? entire chapters?
            Maybe, I've never looked to much into it. Also, much of the Quran itself is just a twisted and distorted version of the Old and New Testament.

            >The messiah is a prophet.
            A less important one than Muhammad. He really feels like a sideshow compared to Muhammad, only fit to be brought up when talking to Christians. The messiah is supposed to be the savior of the world, but Muhammad's doing all the heavy lifting.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            >much of the Quran itself is just a twisted and distorted version of the Old and New Testament
            The Qur'an corrects and summarizes many parts of the OT and NT, referencing parts of Isaiah and wven correcting passages of the Talmud

            >He really feels like a sideshow compared to Muhammad
            Comparing Jesus to Muhammad, Jesus was born of a virgin, spoke as a baby, had vast knowledge as a child, gave life to clay, resurrected the dead, saved by God, and will return to Earth to vanquish the Antichrist

            Muhammad, on the other hand, was like a normal person, God didn't send angels down to prevent his family from being killed, to prevent him from dying. He is the best example precisely because he was so normal.

            There are many beautiful parts of John, and the life of Jesus in general that we can all learn from, but I can't help but notice the excessive praise and depection Jesus gets in the Gospels. That in some sense, he isn't relatable to us.

            While Muhammad went through things that many of us will likely go through without miracles, opression from the ignorant, the death of his children, the doubt of the people

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            Jesus suffered and died as a man. He was perfect, yes, but I also find him relatable. I'm no where close to as good as him, but that doesn't mean I don't understand where he's coming from or empathize with the hardest moments of his life. Jesus also experienced doubt from the people around him. Crowds tried to stone him several times and he was hated and persecuted by the Pharisees. In his final night before being arrested, his friends and followers abandoned him in his darkest hour.

            Islam also misses a major point of the crucifixion by having him not die. Yes, it was to save us from our sins, but it can also be summed up with a verse I never see anyone bring up, but which I find beautiful and a core part of Jesus's message.

            >Greater love has no one than this, than to lay down one’s life for his friends.
            John 15:13

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Greater love has no one than this, than to lay down one’s life for his friends
            Many of Muhammad's companions were martyred in war and also in persecution. They died for the sake of Islam and the Muslims. We, as Muslims, do believe that many prophets were killed, primarily by the israelites, but it is only that we find the death of Jesus to be unnecessary.

            I can understand Jesus being martyred as the ultimate example of patience and reliance on God. But we cannot accept that it was somehow necessary for Jesus to die so that God can forgive humanity.

            God is already All-Merciful. We need only sincerely ask forgiveness and guidance from God for him to accept us. We are saved only by His mercy.

            So God denying the crucifixion in the Qur'an, in a sense, is God denying that He needs a sacrifice in order to forgive His servants.

            The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said: Allah the Almighty said: O son of Adam, so long as you call upon Me and ask of Me, I shall forgive you for what you have done, and I shall not mind. O son of Adam, were your sins to reach the clouds of the sky and were you then to ask forgiveness of Me, I would forgive you.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            It isn't just an expression of patience and reliance, it is also an expression of love. The most holy person to ever walk the Earth, the exact representation of his nature, was crucified alongside bandits. It was the humiliating, agonizing death of a sinner, and he loved us enough to suffer through it. And then we were adopted into God's family, not as slaves, but as children of the Most High.

  8. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    https://www.college.columbia.edu/core/node/1754#:~:text=The%20four%20canonical%20gospels—Matthew,to%20the%20ministry%20of%20Jesus.

  9. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Suffice to say Muslims continually demonstrate their faliure to understand anything about what Jesus actually taught and the theology of the NT as a whole. They are like the Pharisees who, as Jesus said: "pay tithes of mint and dill and cummin, and... have neglected the weightier things of the Law: justice and mercy and faithfulness." (Matthew 23:23)

  10. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's pretty obvious that Muslims are essentially schismatic Arabian Christians, Who decided to begin following the laws of the Sanhedrin [Which in itself goes against Christ's teachings - Circumcision, Animal-Slaughter ritualism, Women to wear habits when outside the home] and of the Ancient Hebrew-Israelites. With the cause of this being a section of their beliefs essentially being 'Arab-Israelites' with claims of a supposed link between the ancient Hebrew-Israelites, and modern Arabs [With them ascribing Arabic transliterations of the actual biblical/talmudic names of figures from the old and new testament], Very similar to the heresy we see in Ethiopian culture of the people of the kingdom of Abyssinia being a tribe of Israel. And modern 'Evangelical-Protestantism' who are Christians that submit themselves to the law of the Sanhedrin.

    The reason this is false, is due to the fact that the vast majority of actual Hebrew-Israelites basically dissipated into the wider Roman population after Hadrians sacking of Judea, Where the vast majority of men were given as slaves to Roman citizens and dissipated to various parts of the empire, and the women as wives to Roman soldiers and citizens.

    The only people who still have an almost direct genetic link to Hebrew-Israelites, are the few religious israelites who were spared expulsion by Hadrian and continued to live for centuries, and the microscopically small Samaritan community still in existence - And NEITHER of these interbreed with the arabs to a significant extent.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Which in itself goes against Christ's teachings - Circumcision, Animal-Slaughter ritualism, Women to wear habits when outside the home
      You're just a liberal with a christian flavor

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        According to my philosophy, the degeneration of civilisations is tracked in their sacrificial rites.
        The Hebrew-Israelites+Jews+Muslims had descended from the highest level of sacrificial rite, Which is of the man, down to the level of killing animals that lacked the greek philosophical concept of conscious agency.

        What does Christ do?, He essentially says MAKE ME THE LAMB, And sacrifices HIMSELF, And as Paul put it, That settled the arguement.

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          You literally believe God sacrificed himself and bore humanity's sins so that you can eat pork and break the Sabbath. Then you literally eat the flesh and drink the blood of Christ

          In Islam, God doesn't need sacrifice to forgive

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qurban_(Islamic_ritual_sacrifice)

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            Allah says about sacrifice:
            Their meat will not reach Allāh, nor will their blood, but what reaches Him is piety from you.

            Meat slaughtered in sacrifice is given to neighbours and the poor

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            So Allah does need sacrifice, it's just for a dumb reason.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            "Every act of worship of the Son of Adam is for him, expect fasting"

            We slaughter to give alms and feed the poor. To remind us of death and be grateful to Allah. This is not a "dumb reason"

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            What was left of the sacrifice in ancient Israel was given to the priests to eat since that's how they got food. Anything they did not finish was ritually destroyed, as it was a holy sacrifice to God and it would be wrong to just throw it away like garbage.

  11. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >God sacrificed himself and bore humanity's sins.
    Jesus died, to clear the sins of HIS PEOPLE.
    >so that you can eat porn/{pork?}
    THE BIBLE SAYS IT'S OK TO EAT PORK!
    >and break the Sabbath
    THE BIBLE SAYS IT ISN'T MANDATORY TO DO THE SABBATH.
    >Then you literally eat the flesh and drink the blood of Christ.
    Yes. It is to HONOUR him, And to accept his gift unto ourselves, for his flesh and blood is HOLY.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      You literally believe God sacrificed himself and bore humanity's sins so that you can eat pork and break the Sabbath. Then you literally eat the flesh and drink the blood of Christ

      In Islam, God doesn't need sacrifice to forgive

      And as i should have added, the REASON the Sabbath and the prohobition on Pork isn't in the bible is because that was the law of the HEBREW-ISRAELITES, not of GOD'S PEOPLE.

  12. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    So what do i mean when i say Jesus was talking to 'his people' and not the Hebrew-Israelites? And how this makes the two laws [the law of christ, the law of the Sanhedrin] distinct from each other.
    Now, Muslim anon, admittedly, I am about 90% closer to a Muslim then almost all Christians, because i do not believe in the 'supernatural' for the most part, The peculiarity of whether Jesus Christ of Nazareth was a direct physical INCARNATION of a god, such as Ram and Khrishna, Or whether he was simply a prophet being guided BY god who achieved some sort of state above others due to his mastery of a higher-level of physics. Like Orpheus, Zarathustra or Akhenaten, Is really not a prime matter of discussion for me.

    But what's being uncovered more and more on the 'Christ was a human man' side of the debate, Which both secular/athiest historians and Muslims basically concur on, Is the actual identity of Christs biological father is potentially not Joseph.
    We learn from both the Roman records of Christs life and the israeli Talmud itself, Is that the reason the Hebrew-Israelites refused to accept Christ as messiah was that his patrilineal line was of ROMAN descent, and not of Hebrew, This is because Christ's alleged 'true father' was a ROMAN SOLDIER by the name of Tiberius Pantera, Who served in Judea around the time Christ was conceived and died in Southern-Germany sometime later.

    This, Is what has been hidden in history, when Christ talked of 'HIS FATHER' and 'HIS FATHERS PEOPLE' he was not talking about Hebrew-Israelites, Nor modern israelites, Nor Arabs.
    He was talking about HIS FATHERS, Indo-European people!

    WE are gods chosen people!, The Indo-European sub-branch of the Aryan family tree.

    >Then why do other races and bloodlines become Christian.
    Much like the Indo-Aryan conquest of the subcontinent, The Aborigines conversion to Aryan ritual and bowing to Aryan idols, represented their SUBMISSION to the Aryan race.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      have a nice day, 'Creativity' Nazi schizo.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      >his patrilineal line was of ROMAN descent
      do you believe anything you hear? especially from the israelites?

  13. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Muslims don't understand the teachings of Jesus at all.

    Neither do 90% of christians saddly

  14. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    What are the teachings of Jesus according to Islam and what do they get wrong about them?

  15. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Muslims aren't a monolith. They aren't united in ignorance or knowledge. Be specific with your language is conducive to good outcomes. Using language precisely is conducive to good outcomes.

  16. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    I as a Muslim have more respect for Christains that I do any other religion aside from my own. I cannot accept Christ's crucifixion as reality since I refuse to believe that a all-merciful God would punish and humiliate one of his most trusted prophets at such a grand scale, even Job recieved a happy ending after his constant tests from God and Satan.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Jesus also had a happy ending. Rose, conquered death, saved mankind, opened the doors of Heaven, rules for eternity, all knees shall bow.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      First of all, Christians view Jesus as more than a prophet. Second of all, Jesus agreed to it before he was born. Thirdly, Jesus came back to life better than before, and finally, it was in part a message on the beauty and importance of self-sacrifice and putting others before yourself.

  17. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    >The Christians don't understand the teachings of Moses at all.

  18. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Neither do christians

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yes they do, they are by definition his followers.

  19. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    You don't understand Muslims at all.

    Read this and you might find out that you're a Muslim: https://saispeaks.sathyasai.org/discourse/unity-and-purity-message-ramzan

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Absolutely laughable.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      >You don't understand Muslims at all.
      On the contrary we understand them all too well.

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