>midwits think he's the grandfather of atheist globohomo or worse, an orthodox Lutheran

>midwits think he's the grandfather of atheist globohomosexual or worse, an orthodox Lutheran
>is actually the temporal incarnation of the Universal God-Mind revealing itself through human speech in the form of the system of pure reason which is the eternal law and order of the universe
>is actually more catholic than catholics
>is actually perennialist
if only guenongay (pbuh) were here to see this

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  1. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Hegel's philosophy is so odd that one would not have expected him to be able to get sane men to accept it, but he did. He set it out with so much obscurity that people thought it must be profound. It can quite easily be expounded lucidly in words of one syllable, but then its absurdity becomes obvious.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      >its absurdity becomes obvious.
      Bertard got filtered hard and the remainder of his life was an elaborate exercise in seething and coping

      >Common sense cannot understand speculation; and what is more, it must come to hate speculation when it has experience of it; and, unless it is in the state of perfect indifference that security confers, it is bound to detest and persecute it.

  2. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    How is he at odds with globohomo?

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Hegel was a strict Lutheran

  3. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    I bought the meme book from him years ago but I have never gotten around to reading it (it scares me). is it actually worth the read?
    Fukuyama seemed to really like him, whatever that implies.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      >is it actually worth the read?
      only if you can actually understand it lol and if you even have to ask then that means no

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        >its another pseud pretentious gay philosophy where all the fart huffers blindly assume their special little interpretation is correct
        Oh, nvm then. I already have Nietzsche at home

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          Nietzsche is hard to read but Hegel is like alien speak, especially if you’re not caught up with the line of thought. That’s just how these types of works are, interpretation aside.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      miller translation is reading it in easy mode

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        not even. miller translation is shit.

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          doversisters—

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      It is the most beautiful book I have ever read.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      It absolutely is worth reading, but it also requires LOTS of background. If you don't have that, then read those other authors first. To mention the essential ones: the presocratics, Plato, Aristotle, Descartes, Spinoza, Boehme, Goethe (both his Faust and his texts on philosophy of Nature), Kant, Jacobi, Fichte (but only the Doctrine of Science), Schelling (only the works up to 1805).
      All these authors are interesting and worth reading in their own right, so even if it is a huge task it will be an extremely fruitful and enjoyable one.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        >presocratics
        Just stop here. This has everything you need

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Consider reading Hegel's Ladder by H.S. Harris as a companion.

  4. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    When I see affirmations that Hegel posited the Spirit as universally attainable, to every person, I understand why people claim Marx to be the best interpreter of Hegel, or perhaps that the delusions of communism were already present in Hegel. Leo Strauss wrote that Hegel envisaged a secularized Christianity, because as he wrote in his early theological writings, perhaps even following Kant, Christianity is the true religion, the only really moral religion and it is only real if it is reconciled with the world. Strauss says that secularization is Hegel's intention. This is a simple inference from Hegel's Geist and historical perspective.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      >When I see affirmations that Hegel posited the Spirit as universally attainable, to every person
      he literally said it's not moron. he said it CAN BE attained by any person provided they are not moronic and are actually willing and able to do the work-- so pretty much only a select few.

      >Philosophy is, by its very nature, something esoteric, neither made for the vulgar as it stands [für sich], nor capable of being got up to suit the vulgar taste; it only is philosophy in virtue of being directly opposed to the understanding and hence even more opposed to healthy common sense, under which label we understand the limitedness in space and time of a race of men

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        Can you provide a passage where Hegel affirms the Spirit is only attainable through Philosophy and not from, say, awareness of historical process in itself?

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          no

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah, because you are the same moron who's always being refuted whenever you post anything about Kant and Hegel. Why do you even insist? Go do something else, Philosophy is not for you.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            >always being refuted
            you wish

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          He literally gave you one

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          Spirit is the incomplete path to the absolute. Consciousness of another is a limitation of consciousness (see the section on 'The Matter at Hand' in PoS) if your consciousness is subject to limitation it is not univeral. spirit is substance as infinite reason, so for the individual their consciousness would have to universalize the absolute. awareness of the historical process is awareness of spirit, so you can in fact do that, but it is not awareness of the absolute. the path to spirit starts with the category. if you are able to categorize history you are already on a specific path, so you aren't headed toward the absolute.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      >perhaps that the delusions of communism were already present in Hegel.
      This is what I've been wondering. Not sure if it's Hegel's work that leads to communism or just the marxoid interpretation .

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        Dialectical Materialism is a direct inversion of the Hegelian Dialectic

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    Anonymous

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    Anonymous

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    Anonymous

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    Anonymous

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    Anonymous

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  10. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    >To recognise reason as the rose in the cross of the present, and to find delight in it, is a rational insight which implies reconciliation with reality.
    >the rose in the cross
    was he?

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Reference to standard anti-esoteric Lutheran metaphor
      >Was he actually a Hermetic?!

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        >The Rose Cross (also called Rose Croix and Rosy Cross) is a symbol largely associated with the legendary Christian Rosenkreuz; Christian Kabbalist, alchemist, and founder of the Rosicrucian Order.

  11. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Hegel on Spinoza
    >He is, by descent, a israelite and Oriental, thus, his philosophy falls short of the true concept of God which forms the content of the Christian religious consciousness.
    Heed it well, ye Pantheists!

  12. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    His entire work is satire. No one should take him seriously.

  13. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    hegel is a bourgeois worm lol, it's amazing women still put him on a pedestal

  14. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

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  15. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    So, anyone willing to make a reasonable and well formulated summary of his core ideas, or is is just autism?

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      From what I can gather through lurking and references, the Phenomenology of Spirit is essentially an investigation of what it means to have an objective, eternal viewpoint as a subjective, finite being, how to actually get there, and the stages of development along the way. This viewpoint is one where certainty of self is the object and vice versa; Hegel actually denies that there is a gap or difference between noumena and phenomena as posited by Kant and proves it in various ways in his work. Once the reader reaches the end of the Phenomenology, he should be capable of the viewpoint of time and eternity and thought from which Hegel begins the rest of his system, detailed in the Logic, which I am not very familiar with.
      Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        not bad anon. I would just add that this certainty of self is not of the individual self, the (you), as object, but of the Absolute, the whole, the concept which reconciles the universal subject and universal object within it.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        So mystical self-help bullshit. Got it. Hegel is not a philosopher.

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          Did you even read my post or did you just skim over it until you found a phrase you didn't understand?
          By writing off one of the most influential philosophers of the last 200 years you're only doing yourself a disservice.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            Developing a viewpoint is not philosophy. What you described is the banal cult gibberish of any guru

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Developing a viewpoint is not philosophy
            um...is this a joke?

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            Training yourself to view things a certain way that your spiritual master claims is correct is not philosophy. You're deeply confused and taken in by this stupid shit. Seek help.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            NTA but who are the real philosophers then?

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Training yourself to view things a certain way that your spiritual master claims is correct is not philosophy.
            except when it is
            except when it is

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            Developing a viewpoint is not philosophy. What you described is the banal cult gibberish of any guru

            Shut the FRICK up. If you not only don't understand what Hegel aims to do in his system, or even the starting point on which the rest of his system is founded, which he labors to bring the reader to in the Phenomenology (which literally walks you through every step along the way and babies you through the process like a fricking math textbook), but also don't even make an attempt to understand how and why Hegel influenced hundreds of years of philosophy to follow, from logic to politics to theology, you don't belong in this thread, on this board, or on this website. If all you're capable of doing is reflexively making a sweeping judgement of his thought, based on your cursory, surface-level understanding (likely founded on memes and shitposts), calling it "mystical bullshit" in a vain attempt to cope for your inability to comprehend what is at your fingertips, you're barely even a human at all, but a troglodyte, barely capable of more than sucking up the scum left behind by a more advanced species. Frick off a thousand times. Frick off into the center of the Earth.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            >or even the starting point on which the rest of his system is founded
            What is the starting point?
            >Being, the indeterminate immediate, is in fact nothing, and neither more nor less than nothing.
            This is meaningless garbage. Give me something that isn't verbal diarrhea
            and can serve as an actual logical foundation. Otherwise Hegel is up there with any other con artist.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            nta but ta just let it go

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            >What is the starting point?
            Absolute Knowing.
            The quote you posted isn't "verbal diarrhea," it's a solid point that Hegel frequently brings up in his philosophy, namely that universals do not properly exist on their own until they are embodied in particulars.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            >>What is the starting point?
            >Absolute Knowing
            This is meaningless. It's like saying the starting point of my philosophy is Fried Eggs and then staring at you like a zombie. You seem to like these mystical pronouncements but they're not philosophy. It's pure obscurantism. Relevant quote by Bertrand Russell
            >Hegel's philosophy is so odd that one would not have expected him to be able to get sane men to accept it, but he did. He set it out with so much obscurity that people thought it must be profound. It can quite easily be expounded lucidly in words of one syllable, but then its absurdity becomes obvious.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            If you'd scroll back up you'd be able to read that the starting point of Hegel's system is reached at the end of the Phenomenology, which may clue you in to the fact that what is described as "certainty of self as the object" may also be called Absolute Knowing, or you could just google the term. Either way, it's clear that you're just not cut out for philosophy of this type and barging in here calling everyone who understands it a cultist does everyone in the thread a disservice including you.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            >If you'd scroll back up you'd be able to read that the starting point of Hegel's system is reached at the end of the Phenomenology
            So what the frick is the rest of the book about if the starting point of his philosophy is at the end? Do you understand what logical foundations are? And how do you build to the logical foundation? Your opinion already counted for little but you've just shown you can't even do basic logic.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            From what I can gather through lurking and references, the Phenomenology of Spirit is essentially an investigation of what it means to have an objective, eternal viewpoint as a subjective, finite being, how to actually get there, and the stages of development along the way. This viewpoint is one where certainty of self is the object and vice versa; Hegel actually denies that there is a gap or difference between noumena and phenomena as posited by Kant and proves it in various ways in his work. Once the reader reaches the end of the Phenomenology, he should be capable of the viewpoint of time and eternity and thought from which Hegel begins the rest of his system, detailed in the Logic, which I am not very familiar with.
            Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            So that confirms what I said at the beginning. Developing a viewpoint isn't philosophy. You've agreed with me since you're saying Hegel doesn't give the logical foundation of his philosophy till the end of PoS so the rest of it isn't philosophy. It's mystical gibberish meant to brainwash you into accepting whatever cult garbage he throws out.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            Sure thing anon, whatever you say.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            Pretty close to my feelings about Hegel
            >Absolute substance ... is the unity of the different self-related and self-existent self-consciousnesses in the perfect freedom and independence of their opposition as component elements of that substance: Ego that is “we”, a plurality of Egos, and “we” that is a single Ego. Consciousness first finds in self-consciousness.
            Sure thing bro. Just don't rant too close to me.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            So that confirms what I said at the beginning. Developing a viewpoint isn't philosophy. You've agreed with me since you're saying Hegel doesn't give the logical foundation of his philosophy till the end of PoS so the rest of it isn't philosophy. It's mystical gibberish meant to brainwash you into accepting whatever cult garbage he throws out.

            ngml

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            bump

  16. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

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