I've recently abandoned Islam and I'm researching Christianity to see if there is any truth in it.

I've recently abandoned Islam and I'm researching Christianity to see if there is any truth in it.

Do you have any sites or resources that could be useful? Any recommendations as to where should I start?

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  1. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    I never understood the food thing among abrahamics. It's perfectly feasible to make sure a pig is thoroughly cleaned with today's technology and raised in a healthy environment NOT eating slop. Under these circumstances, what's the point of hanging on to these outdated rules?

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Islam is not a religion about thinking or justifying your beliefs, Allah just tells you to not eat pork and that's the end of it.

      Also as far as I know Christianity does not have dietary laws, although I could be mistaken.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        The Apostolic churches(Catholicism,Orthodoxy,etc.) have dietary laws for certain days and periods of time, but not for most of the year.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Also as far as I know Christianity does not have dietary laws, although I could be mistaken.
        Off the top of my head, you're not allowed to consume blood, human meat, or food offered to idols or as a part of pagan religious ceremonies.

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          >you're not allowed to consume blood, human meat,
          Those are not dietary laws, they're just straight up commont sense. That would be like saying "don't eat dogshit" is a dietary law.
          >or food offered to idols or as a part of pagan religious ceremonies.
          When was the last time you ever encountered one of those? And in any case Paul says that you can make it right by just praying over the food and thanking God instead.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            >you're not allowed to consume blood, human meat,
            >Those are not dietary laws, they're just straight up commont sense. That would be like saying "don't eat dogshit" is a dietary law.

            >transubstantiates every sunday

        • 6 months ago
          Truck-kun

          >you're not allowed to consume blood

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        Christians aren't allowed to eat non-herbivores, although most people don't know that. It was one of the rules given to the Israelites in the old testament, and unlike the sabbath or eating pork, it was never relinquished so still applies to modern day Christians. I can't remember what verse this is said and don't feel like looking right now, but it's shouldn't be hard to find with Google.

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          >In Nicene Christianity, including Catholicism, Eastern Orthodoxy, Lutheranism, Anglicanism, and Reformed Christianity, there exist no dietary restrictions regarding specific animals that cannot be eaten.[21][1]:353 This stems from Peter the Apostle's vision of a sheet with animals, described in the Bible, in Acts of the Apostles, Chapter 10, when Saint Peter was told that "what God hath made clean, that call not thou common".[22]
          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_dietary_laws#Nicene_Christianity

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Christians aren't allowed to eat non-herbivores
          False, Jesus says that no food can defile you.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            Does that include pussy?

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          Eating carnivores is terrible for health and they taste awful, you'd only want to eat them in times of absolute starvation, in which case their prohibition doesn't make sense.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        The Apostolic churches(Catholicism,Orthodoxy,etc.) have dietary laws for certain days and periods of time, but not for most of the year.

        >Also as far as I know Christianity does not have dietary laws, although I could be mistaken.
        Off the top of my head, you're not allowed to consume blood, human meat, or food offered to idols or as a part of pagan religious ceremonies.

        This. We just have fasting rules where you can't stuff of animal origin on certain days, multiple ones continously if you're up for it. Even then, you won't be punished for not keeping it, especially if some circumstances don't allow you to.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      That assumes that cleanliness is the reason behind the prohibition.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        True, it's not like chicken or any other meat is particularly clean and they didn't know about viruses and bacteria either.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      It used to be because pork was more likely to give you diseases but like you said that is irrelevant nowadays. Of course religions like to keep backwards outdated ideas alive today.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        That's only if you undercook it.

        Religion for Breakfast did a great video on this:

        tl;dr is that pork was more common in the bronze age levant because food was more scarce, and pigs can eat just about anything. They became less common overtime because they aren't as useful commercially as cattle and goats which produce lots of milk that can be processed into yogurt, cheese, etc.
        Then Bronze Age collapse comes and Philistines and Sea Peoples invade the Levant, and these Sea Peoples eat a lot more pork.
        Eating less pork and then no pork then becomes a cultural marker distinguishing Israelites from their Philistine neighbors.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      I was under the impression that it was more of a spiritual uncleanliness.

      https://i.imgur.com/lxmgbZf.png

      I've recently abandoned Islam and I'm researching Christianity to see if there is any truth in it.

      Do you have any sites or resources that could be useful? Any recommendations as to where should I start?

      It's all the same thing. Christianity is a bit more chill than Islam, and the canon is a bit different, but it amounts to the same general made-up bullshit.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Dietary restrictions are a staple of any organized religion, including non-Abrahamic ones like Hinduism. Just comes with the territory. Although I'm sure there were practical reasons for most of those (Pajeet vegetarianism is just a very distorted echo of Indo-Aryan cow worship though) long ago.

      https://i.imgur.com/lxmgbZf.png

      I've recently abandoned Islam and I'm researching Christianity to see if there is any truth in it.

      Do you have any sites or resources that could be useful? Any recommendations as to where should I start?

      Read the bible.

      >you're not allowed to consume blood

      Hmmmm, blood sausage, yum.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      maybe because they cling to traditions they don't understand the origin of, or maybe because pork tastes too similar to human flesh?

  2. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Oyish - history and humanities
    go to /x/ holy shit

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      >This board is dedicated to the discussion of history and the other humanities such as philosophy, RELIGION, law, classical artwork, archeology, anthropology, ancient languages, etc.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        at most that means studying religious history. Not fricking personal blog posts. Holy frick this shit was always present but 90% of this board are filled with this shit

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          >at most that means studying religious history.
          That's what this thread is for.
          >Not fricking personal blog posts.
          I'm literally just asking for resources for research.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            >That's what this thread is for.
            frick off OP and take your abrahamic shit with you

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            You're not being useful for the purpose I started this thread.

            Please leave.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            why would he leave

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            Visit jw.org thank you

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          If you don't like it, you a free to leave.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            >you a free to leave.

  3. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why did you leave Islam?

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Probably for the same reasons you've heard other ex Muslims say.
      >The Quran filled with mistakes and stories stolen from other sources.
      >Allah being a royal dickead.
      >Muhammad being a pedo
      >Hadiths filled with ridiculous stories, plus being very unreliable

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        If that's the case, then I don't imagine you would find Christianity very plausible either, since it has most of those same problems.

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          Elaborate.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            and stories stolen from other sources
            See the stories in Genesis being influenced by Mesopotamian mythology, e.g., Enuma Elish.
            being a royal dickead.
            See God commanding the Israelites to commit genocide. (Deuteronomy 20:16-17)
            being a pedo
            See God commanding the Israelites to take young virgin girls as sex slaves. (Numbers 31:18).
            filled with ridiculous stories, plus being very unreliable
            See the Exodus, which the Bible says happened but which we know didn't happen.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            >it's all just an allegory/metaphor bro

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            You can't be a Christian without literally believing this universe's cause died on a cross 2000 years ago, then un-died

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            it is just as superstitious as Islam

          • 6 months ago
            JWanon

            How ?

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            you are living proof of it

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          Christians (besides some fundies who are every bit as insane as Muslims) don't take the Bible nearly as literally as Muslims do the Quran. Most Christian denominations have other sources for their theology, like the Catholic church which cares more about tradition and continuity than the Bible's exact words.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            Catechism of the Catholic Church 107:
            >The inspired books teach the truth. "Since therefore all that the inspired authors or sacred writers affirm should be regarded as affirmed by the Holy Spirit, we must acknowledge that the books of Scripture firmly, faithfully, and without error teach that truth which God, for the sake of our salvation, wished to see confided to the Sacred Scriptures."

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Many such cases in the west.

      I commited sodomy after 23 years of being a Muslim I must admit that I had been denying myself some real sex! #FrickAllah

      https://islamqa.info/en/answers/143146/how-we-should-react-to-websites-that-vilify-islam-and-what-are-the-ways-in-which-we-can-support-islam
      >The websites that speak ill of the religion of Allah and of His Messenger (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) are no different from the gatherings where people say similar things that constitute kufr. In both cases it is haraam to stay in such gatherings and it is haraam to visit such websites, except for one who will object to what they do and is able to put a stop to these offences. If he is not able to do that, and those people carry on with what they are doing, then it is not permissible to remain in that gathering and it is not permissible to visit those websites.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        frick you israelite

  4. 6 months ago
    JWanon

    Yes

    https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/bible-study-tools/bible-videos-essential-teachings/

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Shut the frick up israelite.

      JW's are not even Christian.

      • 6 months ago
        JWanon

        Why ?

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          You ignore the basic teachings of the trinity and say you got it right even though the NWT is specifically toilered to your doctrines and when asked who came up with it, you don't reveal it, so how am I supposed to believe you know the bible better than people who spoke koine greek and aramaic fluently.
          You basically ignore the early church fathers, including the ones who literally knew the apostles and say they were wrong and apostasised even though their teachings fit the bible in it's original form. Your logic is that somehow the apostles literally couldn't find anyone willing to maintain and share their teachings, which is insulting to God's ability. Like, he can maintain a covenant with the israelites for centuries, but can't start one among the gentiles?
          Your "great apostasy" literally hinges on verses in Matthew which clearly talk about the last judgement, not the disappearence of the church since the grain and weed are present without there being said how much there of one or the other. By that logic, God just left the world to fall apart for more than 1800+ years and the "original" understanding just appeared out of coincidence after all this time, with God not intervening when anyone got close to your ideas up until then.
          Your whole church functions as a secluded cult.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            Not JW but the trinity isn't in the bible and Jesus doesn't teach it.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            He teaches it and reveals it during his baptism.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        Don't be mean. We all love JWanon.

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          That's why he tells him that JWs are not Christians. Anything else would be hateful.

  5. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    The Book of Concord and the Bible

  6. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    >I’m researching my next cope
    Try growing up instead

  7. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    >About noon the following day as they were on their journey and approaching the city, Peter went up on the roof to pray. He became hungry and wanted something to eat, and while the meal was being prepared, he fell into a trance. He saw heaven opened and something like a large sheet being let down to earth by its four corners. 12 It contained all kinds of four-footed animals, as well as reptiles and birds. Then a voice told him, “Get up, Peter. Kill and eat.”
    >“Surely not, Lord!” Peter replied. “I have never eaten anything impure or unclean.”
    >The voice spoke to him a second time, “Do not call anything impure that God has made clean.”
    >This happened three times, and immediately the sheet was taken back to heaven.
    Acts 10:9-16

  8. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    I commited sodomy after 23 years of being a Muslim I must admit that I had been denying myself some real sex! #FrickAllah

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Many such cases in the west.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Many such cases in the west.

      >comparing eating some delicious BBQ ribs with getting fricked in the ass.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        Getting fricked in the ass feels better

  9. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm a Christian and an ex-Muslim. Read Mere Christianity by C.S. Lewis, and also read Five proofs for the existence of God by Edward Feser, and also read the Bible starting with thr 4 gospels.

  10. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm a Christian and an ex-Muslim. Read Mere Christianity by C.S. Lewis, and also read Five proofs for the existence of God by Edward Feser, and also read the Bible starting with the 4 gospels

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      >read babbys first apologetics

  11. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    >finally grow up and abandon your brainwashed fairy tales
    >look to indoctrinate yourself with new ones
    I truly have no idea why people do this.

  12. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    If you really are on a soulsearching journey and not just this week's rendition of someone pretending to be. What really has to say to be said up front is that if you are asking for list of reasons to take up the faith like it's a class in an mmorpg then you are doing this whole soulsearching thing wrong.

  13. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    No, it's not true that some guy walked on water 2000 years ago

  14. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    I legitimately have no idea what "truth" means to you /x/-schizos. Why can't you just admit it's all "vibes"?

  15. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    >I recently became a hindu bastard

  16. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    https://www.pdfdrive.com/orthodox-dogmatic-theology-e196898647.html

  17. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Study NDEs instead since NDEs are actually solid proof of life after death, because anyone can have them if they come close to and survive death. And they are so extremely real to those who have them: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U00ibBGZp7o

    As this NDEr described their NDE:

    >"Now, what heaven looks like? 'OMG' doesn't even describe how beautiful this place is. Heaven is, there are no words. I mean, I could sit here and just not say anything and just cry, and that would be what heaven looks like. There are mountains of beauty, there are things in this realm, you can't even describe how beautiful this place is. There are colors you can't even imagine, there are sounds you can't even create. There are beauties upon this world that you think are beautiful here. Amplify it over there times a billion. There are, it's incredibly beautiful, there's no words to describe how beautiful this place is, it's incredibly gorgeous."

    And importantly, even dogmatic skeptics have this reaction, because the NDE convinces everyone:
    https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/mysteries-consciousness/202204/does-afterlife-obviously-exist

    So anyone would be convinced if they had an NDE, we already know this, no one's skepticism is unique. And the book in pic related is known to convince even hardened skeptics that there is an afterlife.

    >muh brain chemistry

    Neuroscientists are convinced by NDEs too. What do skeptics think they understand that neuroscientists do not?

    >muh DMT causes it

    Scientifically refuted already, and NDErs who have done DMT too say that the DMT experience, while alien and really cool and fun, was still underwhelming to the point of being a joke when compared to the NDE.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      I had a NDE, except it was what you would expect a NDE to scientifically be like. Temporary mental impairment, some hallucinations that were not coherent, consciousness shut down, then came back and tried to fill in the gaps after the fact. It was disorienting like being knocked out then coming to rather than going to sleep and waking up.

      I must not have a soul.

  18. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    My brother literally just humbly pray to our good Lord, Jesus Christ and ask Him to save you.

  19. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Read the Gospel of John

  20. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    If you insult god as he is known in Arabia and was known as in ancient Arabia, you're insulting the name of god in that language. Please, refrain from that. Read Romans it is beautiful. Start reading the gospel of John.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      >If you insult god as he is known in Arabia and was known as in ancient Arabia, you're insulting the name of god in that language.
      The word "Allah" is understood to refer specifically to the Islamic God, just like how the name Heavenly Father is understood to refer specifically to the Mormon God, not the Christian one.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Heavenly Father
        I knew a Methodist preacher who used it.

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          The Bible also uses that term, but it has come to mean the Mormon God.

  21. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    The closest to original Christianity as a denomination is catholicism before Vatican ii, but I don't think the first christians had any other leader than James the brother of Christ. But the word Catholic is in the apostles Creed. The Catholic church is the continuation of the original Catholic church. I would base my faith around the idea that Jesus is literally god, not metaphorically or as an essence but literally.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      But that's moronic

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