It's incredible how well Muslims know the Bible when debating Christians

Muslims are proficient in Hebrew and Greek and are fully prepared to challenge anything the Christian brings from the text. Muslims, having already memorized the Quran, have an encyclopaedic knowledge of the Bible, both New and Old Testaments as well and they put this into use when interacting with Christians.

I will show an example so you can't accuse me of just making it up. In the below video at the 35:30 mark, a Jehovah's Witness joins the stream and says that he doesn't believe in a literal Hell. Immediately a Muslim on the panel responds citing a verse from Matthew which affirms an eternal Hell. The JW provides a translation of the verse which the Muslim immediately rebuts and corrects in its original Greek. There is no piece of the Christian belief system that a Christian can bring that a Muslim is not FULLY prepared to combat off the top of his head.

Many many more examples like that of Muslims closing down Christian arguments on the spot using the Bible.

You never see this kind of knowledge of opposing scriptures from other religions. Only Muslims know what they are talking about when comparing theologies.

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  1. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    K why aren't they allowed to pee standing up

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Muslims can pee standing up, just dont wet yourself

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      muslim men are women. this is why they prefer men's company and hide their women under ghost sheets.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        No, you are a sodomite, which is why you prefer the friendship of women. Everyone knows that that a man with many female friends is merely a sodomite.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          abdul, the world already knows how muslim boys cope with women being out of reach before marriage...
          i prefer women's company because i'm territorial and women are pleasing to me.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            youre a little gay thats why

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >gays prefer women
            if you say so abdul.

  2. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    That's called legalism

  3. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Christian scholars are more focused on western nations social problems than on debate with islam, MENAs have been considered a lost cause since late Middle-Ages.
    Ramon Llull was one of the few Christians at the time that genuinely tried to understand, debate and debunk muslim and he was born 800 years ago.
    These muslims are just hitting a wall because nobody here is interested on what they have to say, Islam is seen by default as a fake mourmon like sect by the Christian Church.

    Not to say that the smartest people from Western Societies in current era are more focused on actual scientific and philosophical affairs than religion.

  4. 5 months ago
    Ο Σολιταίρ

    The primary Muslim argument is to lie.
    They're basically as demoralized and thoughtless as Mormons.
    Both truly* believe that lying is justified if it spreads their religion.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >muslims believe lying is justified for religion
      kys if you believe this, all schools of jurisprudence in sunnism are agreed that it is forbidden

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        I caught OP in lie a few threads ago. It’s clear that you’re lying right now by saying this.

  5. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    a single Bible verse destroys islam.
    >by their fruits you will know them

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yes, go read some studies on how good and blessed the kingdom of God was which the muslims had, they actually implemented religion and tax was 1-2.5% for rich people, now look at the history of catholics

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        You'll worship Satan for low taxes?

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          Muslims worship Allah alone with no partners, it is the perfect monotheist religion of God, why are you so mad at muslims and call them devilworshippers? are you envious or whats the benefit in that?

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            is this the actual text of the Quran?

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            check out the references its paraphrased

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Already did by now, but why did you argue taxes last time. Had me confused.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            I was saying that the fruits of the muslim empires statewise shows in their justice historically, while we cannot say something of the same effect of the past western christian empires

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Oh yes you can tell some instance of the Christian empires acting justice:
            >stopped human sacrifice in Central America
            >shut down African slave trade
            >shut down piracy globally
            >printing press and the spread of religious texts

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            what christian empires did that exactly? and look at the crusades, of course they did good things too, but comparing the byzantine emoire and the rashidun caliphate, you cannot talk about bad fruits, especially looking at the wisdoms and righteousness of the caliphs themselves

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            I am absolutely clueless about the Arab Byzantine conflicts but the empires who did that are:
            >Spanish
            >British
            >Basically: all Euros in unison against the Turkish sultan
            >Germans

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah like that time Christian essentially forced them to ban slavery so they could participate in global trade

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >paraphrased
            It's directly quoting translations you mongoloid

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Now what's the context for that? Is it throwing shade at Jesus?

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Pic related (81:25) seems to be a misquote, but it's hard to tell when we are talking about a piece of literature that does not have the exhaustive translational tradition as the bible.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            what do you mean misquote? thats literally what the text says

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Source pls? The German translation I've found online says something else.
            https://islam.de/13827.php?sura=81

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Und es sind nicht die Worte eines gesteinigten Satans.
            >And they are not the words of a stoned Satan.
            Im assuming "stoned" means something in german that I dont know, but that translation is right
            https://quran.com/81/25

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            I'm taking back everything I've said about and should learn to read. Didn't get it from the get-go. Stoned is the state after a stoning in this context.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Nein gesteinigt hier ist schon richtig, es heißt auf arabisch auch verflucht oder verbannt

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            go read or listen to it yourself, what do you mean throwing shade at Christ?

  6. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >There is no piece of the Christian belief system that a Christian can bring that a Muslim is not FULLY prepared to combat off the top of his head.
    Ask them anything about papal infallability or church history and they will go silent.

    • 5 months ago
      Ο Σολιταίρ

      Catholics aren't Christian though.
      There wasn't a concept of Roman primacy until the 4th century. Though certain ancient bishoprics had* become a sort of middleman for church disputes; churches were local and autocephalous until the 4th century as well.
      I stress; the transformation of popular Christianity into Romanism is very easily traced to when the Roman Empire* attempted to seize the reins.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous
      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Catholics aren't Christian though.
        Right. Not israeli enough.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Church history is barely existent prior to later 2nd century, nobody cares about your ex cathedra cope

  7. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Who's paying you to keep making these threads, shill? You should have at leas waited until your other thread was gone before making another?

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      He's a masochist who enjoys getting destroyed in internet arguments.

  8. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's because Islam is a imperialist genocidal project masquerading as a religion, and part of it is doing everything that is possible to dismantle and destroy anything it comes into contact with.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      To be more charitable, I think it's because their Holy book in and of itself is often responding to other holy books, and because of this they try to do the same.

  9. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Muslims are proficient in Hebrew and Greek
    Sure, Abdul

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      I know a shaykh who studied hebrew also, most muslims are bilingual and not rarely polyglots

  10. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    The Koran contains an abridged and corrupted version of those biblical stories

  11. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Muslims don't understand the bible, if they did they wouldn't be muslim

  12. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah muslims are autistic spergs and have a bunch of ramblings wrote by schizophrenics in the desert 2000 years ago memorised to the letter. No one with an IQ above double digits gives remotely a shit about any of it. If they put half as much effort into building decent functioning societies maybe they wouldn't be moving to western countries all the time.

  13. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    brethren, we shouldn't be making fun of their lack of knowledge of the scriptures instead we should preach to them the truth in love and avoid the trap of debating, no one had convince anybody ever through debates, we have to understand that muslims as humans have the idea of God in their mind and their culture provided the islamic understanding of God, so they don't know any better.

  14. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >a Jehovah's Witness joins the stream and says that he doesn't believe in a literal Hell. Immediately a Muslim on the panel responds citing a verse from Matthew which affirms an eternal Hell.
    OP you might wanna share a timestamp. Nobody's gonna sit through 4.5 hours of "God is good alone, so what that Christ at that point didn't reveal his identity" lol

    >Only Muslims know what they are talking about when comparing theologies.
    They really don't. You see it even in OP vidrel. They use verses that on the surface support their position, leaving out a dozen others or sometimes even the very next verse. And this is also the reason why I, if I were debating the atrocity that is Islam, wouldn't really go for verse-based critique. You can always twist out of it. What matters is the overall picture. And the overall picture of Islam is bleak.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      He already said it's at around the 35min mark

  15. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    that's precisely why their countries are massive shitholes
    they wank their dicks off to cenutries old book while the world goes on

  16. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Enjoy this portrait of Muhammad (مُحَمَّد), The Prophet of Islam and Messenger of Allah :^)

  17. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >read 3 books over and over again your whole life
    May as well be impressed by tolkienists and trekkies

  18. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    I wonder when will muslims realize that the religion is holding them back
    too proud for that now

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      in what sense? muslims got phds in whatever you can think of

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        even the worst shitholes have some people capable of getting phds
        my point is that religious fanaticism and theocracy will keep the muslim down, because both of those things make you poor mentally and materially

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          Muslims arent theocrats, they believe monarchies are ideal, im not sure what exactly you mean by religious fanaticism, if you mean people going crazy about politics and stuff like ISIS, right, but a muslim is by no means impairing himself by visiting studying classes in theology manners and jurisprudence

  19. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    I've never seen a single living Muslim who was "proficient in Greek", unless you count Turks in Greece, and even less in Hebrew.

  20. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    If you look at Mohammed’s life with an even slightly critical lens it quickly becomes apparent that he was making it up as he went along from what he had heard/learned.

    It’s also incredibly apparent that he is a wolf in sheep’s clothing and any goodness he had was only reserved for those he wanted to immediately conquer or those who would conquer for him.

    Islam itself from the moment he died has been struggling to make any sense of the system. The problem is, the system sucks, but you can’t leave cause you’ll be killed.

    Islam is a totalitarian political system which cloaks itself in religion to give it a sense of legitimacy.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yea right, thats why he invited people to worship Allah alone and teached them Quran for 13 years in mecca while all of them were enduring tortures killings and boycotts by the pagans

      a wolf in sheeps clothing is someone like Paul who contradicts himself and appears to each differently to appease the people

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Post Paul contradicting himself pls.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          20 To the israelites I became like a israelite, to win the israelites. To those under the law I became like one under the law (though I myself am not under the law), so as to win those under the law. 21 To those not having the law I became like one not having the law (though I am not free from God’s law but am under Christ’s law), so as to win those not having the law. 22 To the weak I became weak, to win the weak. I have become all things to all people so that by all possible means I might save some.

          he also permits eating flesh sacrificed for idols, even though at the council James decided that gentile converts should also not eat meat of idols

          also read acts 21 and about the incident at antioch, when Paul sees James after a long time James tells him he did not believe the claims that Paul had abandoned the Law, and he then proceeds to do a ritual of making oneself free as described in the law, not admitting to anything, even though he said about the Law given to Moses what he said

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Except for that one time he prostrated before pagan idols and his followers did the same. Until he realized his mistake and came back with a revelation saying so. Interestingly enough beating the Quran’s challenge of being a verse like it. Satan brought 3 and the prophet himself, the best of humanity, chosen by Allah, though it sounded good enough and followed it.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          1. nobody prostrated to idols, the pagans prostrated to God out of thankfulness because they thought God had acknowledged their idols
          2. None of the companions nor the Prophet ever bowed to an idol in this story, it says that the Prophet slipped reciting the verse, inverting its meaning
          3. all the hadiths related about this incident are weak in themselves, having been related by anonymous narrators or those not wellgrounded, see hafiz ibn kathir in his tafsir, while ibn hajar said that the general account is authentic on the grounds of corraborating evidence

  21. 5 months ago
    Anonymous
  22. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Muslims always talk about pure monotheism then say the Quran was uncreated oops

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      The Quran is from Gods speech, Gods speech is an action and an attribute of himself, God does not create his actions, he simply acts on them, think about God creating, does he create his action of creating?

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        So is God’s speech sharing the same essence as God? Seeing as how they both from the same humanly undefinable source

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          Gods essence is God himself, Gods attribute is his ability or property or one of his actions, it is an aspect of his single essence, Ahl us Sunnah are somewhat nominalist

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            So the Quran, as the literal speech of Allah, is an attribute of Allah?

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            God would not deny Isaac as his chosen like Muslims believe. God would never break his covenant with David like Muslims believe. Quran is not the word of YAHWEH Sabaoth, the Holy One of Moses, the Mighty One of David..

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Surely Allah does not break the covenant

            muslims do not believe God betrayed any covenant to any of the prophets, we dont believe that Ismael or Isaac was singled out while the other was put below, both are prophets

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yes, the speech of God as property is an aspect of his essence, while the action itself is attributed to God because it was predicated by him and comes from him

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            How is that any different than Jesus manifesting as the Word of God who shares in his essence?

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Is the son of Mary aleyhissalam an aspect of Gods essence? i think this is similar to nestorianism

            the Prophet sallallahu aleyhi wa sallam also foretold Christ would return and rule as a king

  23. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Islam was created by a pedophile warlord who plagiarized Christianity and was spread by the sword instead of winning people's heart. It was a false religion from the very start. Just an insane and militarized cult of the pedo Muhammad

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >didnt capture peoples hearts
      didnt read any book of seerah, the prophet sallallahu aleyhi wa sallam invited and teached the religion to all for 13 years, there was no state or battles here

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        It's also quite funny that while the schism between the big christian branches is due to doctrinal and philosophical differences. The schism between the 2 main branches of Islam is purely due to dynastic and political conflict(which person should inherit the throne of caliph). There's nothing holy or moral or spiritial about Islam. It's all temporal, lies created by an ancient snake oil salesman

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          Untrue, God forbid in the Quran that the people should turn into parties and sects, there was no shiite sect such as the zaydiyyah or twelver shiaism, the community of muslims have not split from any shiites, the twelver shiism sect is a sect independent of Ahl us Sunnah, they differ with us in that they should be able to pray to saints, and that all companions apostated, while this is obviously an ahistoric late sectarian invention

          Muhammad is Allahs messenger and the chief of all prophets, he is the most honest and brave and easygoing servant of God

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      plagiarized a lot of things. Note you will not find a one to one copying between Jesus words in the gospels and the quran like this talmud example.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        >scripture imputes..
        the talmud is what rabbis say, from themselves or traditions, this rabbi is saying the words he quoted is from scripture, as Allah says he ordained it to the children of Israel beforehand

        Is christ an impostor for referencing earlier scripture, and 1 Enoch, as it is written in your greek books?

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          Jesus was a israelite giving references to israelites.
          Every other rabbi knew what he was referring to, it was transparent.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Same with pulling the story of the clay birds from the Infancy Gospel of Thomas.

      If you needed any proof that Islam is false religion just look at how Jesus is depicted. Everything matches up with Christianity except for the most important part, Jesus’ death and resurrection. The Quran entirely dismisses Jesus’ sacrifice for the salvation of mankind. It is unsurprising that Islam only ever seeks to destroy Christians and Christianity. Weather by the sword, or the socially through jizyah and dhimmi status.

      And before someone tries to say dhimmi are treated well just realize that as a dhimmi you can’t build new churches or upkeep old ones.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Can you being any proof that there is a possibility that the verses in the Quran are a copy of the text of the gospel of thomas which was lost?

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          http://gnosis.org/library/inftoma.htm

          >II. 1 This little child Jesus when he was five years old was playing at the ford of a brook: and he gathered together the waters that flowed there into pools, and made them straightway clean, and commanded them by his word alone. 2 And having made soft clay, he fashioned thereof twelve sparrows. And it was the Sabbath when he did these things (or made them). And there were also many other little children playing with him.

          3 And a certain israelite when he saw what Jesus did, playing upon the Sabbath day, departed straightway and told his father Joseph: Lo, thy child is at the brook, and he hath taken clay and fashioned twelve little birds, and hath polluted the Sabbath day. 4 And Joseph came to the place and saw: and cried out to him, saying: Wherefore doest thou these things on the Sabbath, which it is not lawful to do? But Jesus clapped his hands together and cried out to the sparrows and said to them: Go! and the sparrows took their flight and went away chirping. 5 And when the israelites saw it they were amazed, and departed and told their chief men that which they had seen Jesus do.

          The infancy gospel of Thomas is dated within the 1st century AD. This book was deemed heretical by the church. I think a better question is. How did gnostic literature end up in the Quran? My best guess is that one of the people Mohammed spoke with during his travels was a gnostic who had been driven into Arabia by the Church.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Alright, do you know to where the gospel spread and when it was lost? This is a solemn guess, Allah mentions this and the gnostic who wrote it down also heard about it by hearsay

            also, when did the church say the book is heretical?

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            The gospel started its spread with Jesus telling the first disciples to follow him. If you’re asking when the church started most people agree at Pentecost. If you’re asking for the Bible itself, which is not a book but a collection of books and letters, that was hammered out with the early church councils. The Bible and the Church are as inextricably connected as Uthman and Zaid are to the mushaff of the Quran. There was never a time when the gospel was “lost”

            If you’re looking for the supposed corruption of the gospel you’re going to have to provide evidence.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Of course, the disciples of Christ are believers, but what language did Christ speak and teach them the gospel in? Historically, they were the jerusaleman church and with the flight to pella they fled to jordan and syria, and likely also after the israeli roman war, now the 4 gospel which we have are definetely not tranlsations but books written by greeks, recounting traditions about the disciples themselves

            For sure we know that some of the parables are truthfully related as the prophet also explained them

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          >gospel of Thomas
          >lost
          do mudslime even google?

  24. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >citing a verse from Matthew which affirms an eternal Hell
    Which one?

  25. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Nobody denies the bible mentions lake of fire etc but it means eternal destruction, that's why it mentions false prophets for example.
    Their punishment is eternal death because it's that serious.
    >Only Muslims know what they are talking about when comparing theologies
    Muslims all pretend they understand the bible but they know so little about it they think they it was somehow corrupted over time. They're nothing but antichrists

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Sahih al-Bukhari 7363
      Narrated Ubaidullah:
      Ibn `Abbas said, "Why do you ask the people of the scripture about anything while your Book (Qur'an) which has been revealed to Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) is newer and the latest? You read it pure, undistorted and unchanged, and Allah has told you that the people of the scripture (Jews and Christians) changed their scripture and distorted it, and wrote the scripture with their own hands and said, 'It is from Allah,' to sell it for a little gain. Does not the knowledge which has come to you prevent you from asking them about anything? No, by Allah, we have never seen any man from them asking you regarding what has been revealed to you!"
      No, the creed in islam is that God gave revelation to prophets, including the tora and the zabuur and the injeel to the Messiah, the books we have may contain what is in them, but they are mostly later accounts, and rabbis as is written in the talmud about the tikkun soferim and ittur soferim changed their scriptures, while christians have greek books of uncertain origin and greeks with a cery high tendency to change and add things into the books

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        >newer and the latest?
        kekerino. Name the prophecies in the Quran.
        Bible has prophecies that predict stuff thousands of years into the future.
        Quran doesn't have anything real in it because allah and his false prophet pedoboy couldn't do it

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          May Allah guide you.
          Allah has promised those of you who believe and do good that He will certainly make them caliphs in the earth, as He did with those before them; and will surely establish for them their faith which He has chosen for them; and will indeed change their fear into security—˹provided that˺ they worship Me, associating nothing with Me. But whoever disbelieves after this ˹promise˺, it is they who will be the rebellious.

          When the victory of Allah has come and the conquest,
          And you see the people entering into the religion of Allah in multitudes,

          Theres a ton more, also read the beginning of Sura Rum about the roman empires happening in the future

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >May Allah guide you
            False Gods doesn't exist, Allah doesn't hear your prayers.
            If you really want the truth you have to stop reading fanfiction like the Quran and study the word of God, the bible.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Allah is the cognate of Allakh in aramaic and Eloh in hebrew you illiterate

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >the word generally refers to God in Islam.
            Go frick yourself, heretic.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Allahs word is not Allah, stop throwing a tantrum online

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Joseph smith “prophesied” of the ACW 40 years before it occurred
            Does that make him the true and right prophet you idiot?

  26. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Allah = Pagan Moon Good
    Mohammad = Warlord Pedo
    "Gabriel" = Lucifer deceiving Mohammad to distort the bible

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous
    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Sahih International: And of His signs are the night and day and the sun and moon. Do not prostrate to the sun or to the moon, but prostate to Allah , who created them, if it should be Him that you worship.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        this does not disprove that allah is a pagan moon good .however musshits themselves acklowdge that allah is not yhwe

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          Allah is the cognate of Allakh in aramaic and Eloh in hebrew and Yahweh means the living which is Hayy in arabic, your moongod theory is a far miss

  27. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >debating
    Kek. You read the Sacred Scriptures, you understand it and you follow it. You don't debate it.

  28. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >4 hours of misunderstanding the Sacred Scriptures and spreading the misunderstanding
    This is not a reliable source of information. It is good entertainment, I give you that, but if you really want to know the truth, turn inward.

  29. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Christians and people of other faiths aren't actually serious about their religion. They just believe in what they think is right without even examining everything. Islam is the only serious religion

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >moongod warlord pedophile religion is the only true religion
      woah

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        why do you keep repeating certain words?

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Serious? LOL Muslims arn't even close to having a caliphate. An esental part started by the founder. And if you follow the hadith images are haram. get off this site.

  30. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Do Muslims actually read the Bible? Serious question. The Koran references lots of Biblical stories, so they must have some tradition of them, but they don't really line up with the Biblical texts a lot of the time (esp NT).

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      No, they don't read it. Most Muslims I know of, don't even know it's supposed to be a sacred book in their religion.

  31. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    So, like, what's the Muslims model of what went down at the "crucifixion" of Jesus?

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      I think Jesus was a prophet of Allah who was crucified but Allah deceived his followers into believing he rose from the grave? I think this is where we get "allah is the greatest of deceivers"

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Remember the part in the Gospels when Pilate told the israelites to choose which guy to crucifiy?

      Some other guy called Jesus Barabbas(meaning son of the Father, he was also a Messianic claimant) was crucified when the israelites were confused as to which one was the true Christ. The rumour spread around that Jesus died, but Jesus came to his disciples to show that he was alive, Jesus then rose to heaven as attested to by the disciples and the israelites were damned and cursed forever for abandoning their Messiah.

      ~50 years later the Temple was destroyed and Christians start following a guy who claimed Jesus was god, this was appealing to many Greeks who were former pagans. 600 years later, God sends His final prophet, an Arab instead of a israelite, from the seed of Ishmael who was the son of Abraham. He is the Paraclete in John

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        On the Paraclete

        The passages on the Paraclete in John is very suspect. At the end of John 14, Jesus says "come now let us leave" but in John 15-16 continues talking repeating many things he said earlier and only leaves in John 17.

        It could very well be the case that John 15-16 is different account of the events interpolated in. As you may know, the textual history of John is very turbulent.

        >But the Paraclete is the Holy Spirit
        This is only made clear in John 14:26, δὲ παράκλητος, τὸ πνεῦμα τὸ ἅγιον, ὃ πέμψει ὁ πατὴρ ἐν τῶ ὀνόματί μου. Since we've established the suspect nature of this passage of John, it is very likely that the part, "τὸ πνεῦμα τὸ ἅγιον" was added in as a clarification, much like how the Johannine comma was eventually added in, "For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one."

  32. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    this is both ridiculous and hilarious if you know anything about the bible or the quran
    islam is a comedy and the joke is on the followers of islam

  33. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    That would be because Muslims and Christians are Abrahamic. It's all part of the same timeline and story.

    However, Muslims will only be saved if they accept Lord Jesus Christ as King.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Lord Jesus Christ as King.
      "The Father is greater than I"

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