Is there any argument against homosexuality that is not grounded on religion? >STDs

Is there any argument against homosexuality that is not grounded on religion?

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Yes, I agree careless promiscuous people deserve AIDS. This is a non-issue in monogamous relationships.

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  1. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    How they reproduce is sexual abuse

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Homosexuality emerges because there are too many males in a population.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        >source: my (prolapsed) ass

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      The only argument against it is "it's gross."

      Which is true, it is gross, but you can't just live your life based on what's gross or not. That's like 6th grade playground thinking there.

      How does sexual abuse change someone's finger-length ratio, dumbass

  2. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    It’s gross and I don’t like it

  3. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yes.

  4. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    There's no such thing as monogamous homosexuality. That's like saying bestiality is fine so long as it's monogamous. The kind of person who would choose to become a homosexual would never be someone who believes in sexual morality

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >The kind of person who would choose to become a homosexual
      doesn't exist.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous
  5. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >. This is a non-issue in monogamous relationships
    Homosexuality at its core implies polygamous relationships. Its like saying, yeah I know that 40-50% of child sex abuse victims were abused by same sex, but those are bad ones and I dont like it. Any other arguments against homos?

    They are degenerate. For the reason you stated and the reason of disproportionate child rape. The fault is the culture that they formed themselves which is probably due to their nature of being mentally ill perverts. There are some rarer cases of homosexuals who are not bad people, but the low predominance of those cases directly implies that this is not what an average homosexual is. Therefore - degenerate

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >There are some rarer cases of homosexuals who are not bad people
      Would you argue that if these people were the common instance then it would be fine?

      Because the main argument people give for homosexuality, which is that as long as everyone consents it's ok, would also apply to things like incest, necrophilia, bestiality, and somewhat pedophilia

      Corpses and animals are not sentient, so they cannot give consent. Children are not fully developed in terms of rational thinking and autonomy so they cannot give consent either.

      Incest has been widely accepted through all history and its still accepted in many 'anti-degenerate' places such as MENA.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Corpses and animals are not sentient, so they cannot give consent.
        Consent isn't the end all be all. The reason consent is required is because harm is likely to be caused without it. A dead body cannot be harmed so there's no reason consent is needed (in the same way consent isn't needed to frick and other inanimate object) and as long as you aren't a vegan you agree that harming animals for the benefit of people is ok

        >Children are not fully developed in terms of rational thinking and autonomy so they cannot give consent either.
        That's why I said somewhat. "fully developed" is very subjective so a pedophile can justify their actions by saying the child was developed enough to consent

        >Incest has been widely accepted through all history
        The only type of incest that has even been somewhat accept is cousin marriage and even then it's not universal. Incest between father and son, brother and brother, mother and son, etc would all be ok under the "as long as everyone consents" view of sexual morality, which is clearly an abomination to anyone who isn't severely mentally ill

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          >parent/son incest is mental illness
          >cousin/cousin incest is not
          hello ahmed, how's the weather in islamabad

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            I never said it wasn't a mental illness just that it's the only kind of incest that has even been somewhat accepted by certain societies. I don't live in MENA, I'm against cousin marriages

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            Cousin marriage has negligible negative genetic problems in comparison, if they’re like 2nd or further cousin it pretty much non existent n pretty much same as fricking someone non-blood related in terms of genetic risk. Also Europeans did this all the time too.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      I think there's room here for discussion.
      Pedophilia presents itself as both an addition to an overarching sexuality and as a "separate sexuality".
      I think to make the statistics fair, what should be compared is the percentage of pedophiles who are also attracted to adults. Because when we talk about accepting homosexual relations we talk about people who are attracted to adults.
      Pedophiles who are attracted to children are an entirely different thing. Also important to note how many of the pedophiles who molested boys actually have a sexual preference for them, instead of simply finding them more accessible.

  6. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Because the main argument people give for homosexuality, which is that as long as everyone consents it's ok, would also apply to things like incest, necrophilia, bestiality, and somewhat pedophilia

  7. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    There's nothing wrong with being homosexual in the same way that there's nothing wrong with being an incel.

  8. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Reminder that if gay men are forced to pretend to be straight, they're more likely to have kids and pass on their gay genes. By forcing gays to remain in the closet, you are insuring more gay people will be born in the future.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Counterpoint: Catholic monks

  9. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Oversexualization is bad
    Narcissism is bad
    Binary genderism is bad

    gays not only excel in all those areas, but they do it Proudly

  10. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Lex Naturalis

  11. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's literally a mental illness

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Deboonked 50 years ago

  12. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Reminder that christoids push the iea that sexuality is a choice because the idea of God punishing someone for a trait he gave them is the biggest nail in the coffin for their fake religion.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Everyone is tempted to sin moron. Being attracted to the same sex isn't a sin but acting on it is

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        Don't sidestep my point you weasel. Even if it's just "acting on it" that's the sin, God is still creating people with an innate natural much greater propensity to temptation. God is still creating people incapable of experiencing romantic love without engaging in what Christians call sin.

        No righteous being would do this, and that is why you dogs push this "it's a choice" bullshit so hard.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          I answered your question and now you're shifting to what God should or shouldn't do. That's an entirely different discussion

          >and that is why you dogs push this "it's a choice" bullshit so hard.
          It is a choice. No one is forcing your penis to go inside another man

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            "What God should or shouldn't do" LMAO. You know as well as I do that God should be righteous or good; that the entire grift of Christianity relies on God being good, and any argument that points against that is a threat to the grift. They're not seperate issues, they're the exact same issue: since God should be righteous, and God demands that homosexuality be banned, either the christian God is bad or homosexuality is bad.

            And homosexuality isn't bad. It's just gross. But as everyone who isn't a literal child knows, just because something is gross doesn't mean it's bad.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            >You know as well as I do that God should be righteous or good;
            I know and I'm saying there's a million different reasons as to why a good God allows humans to be tempted by sin. You aren't the first person to think about this and it has nothing to do specifically with homosexuality

            >And homosexuality isn't bad. It's just gross
            It's both

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          Or it’s just Satan tempting them with unnatural lusts trying to throw them off God’s path and down to Hell with all the other sinners lured by degeneracy.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            Why does God allow Satan to create people who are inherently more susceptable to temptation to others?

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            To demonstrate righteousness through resisting temptation. Life isn't fair. It's like being mad at God for being born poor.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          Its lustful behavior that is forbidden. Technically, chaste romantic love is fine. Arguably, not even straight people should be having sex outside of procreation.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Being attracted to the same sex isn't a sin but acting on it is
        Why?

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          Because book said so

  13. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Without religion a logical assumption is that survival of the species becomes a foundation of your morals.
    homosexuals can't have kids, meaning they are counterproductive to an atheist society

  14. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    All non-ontological arguments for or against anything are religious.

  15. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Its disgusting and degenerate

  16. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >implying we have the space to discuss exactly how homosexuality could be lived in a genuinely moral way
    Next to zero people care about that.

  17. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    I don't think so. And on the topic of religion, there is even this sutta in which a Buddhist nun espouses not identifying as male or female

    https://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/sn/sn05/sn05.002.bodh.html

  18. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Never ask this here, you will just be called a slur.

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