Is Islam just a theologically-sound Arianism?

Is Islam just a theologically-sound Arianism?

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  1. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Islam
    >theologically-sound

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Islam's only weak spot in the sketchy legitimacy of Muhammad himself. Otherwise the Islamic conception of God makes more sense than Judaism or Christianity.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        >makes more sense
        By what standard? lmao

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          No trinity

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Islamic conception of God
        You do know they don't have a monopoly on monotheism and that their religion has a ton of problems unrelated to that, right?

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          Islam is far closer to some kind of pure hyper-philosophical monotheism. That doesn't mean it works, Muhammad and everything around him is a fricking trainwreck, but it's more streamlined than Christianity which is on its face absurd. Islam can hide the Semitic baggage behind philosophical obscurantism, Christianity can't.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Islamic conception of God
            You do know they don't have a monopoly on monotheism and that their religion has a ton of problems unrelated to that, right?

            Islam without the Muhammad character would be great. It would be a lot better if the revisionists are correct when they say it’s just a title and not a name, cause you’re right, it’s just a trainwreck

  2. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    It seems more likely that the Vikings would convert to Orthodoxy if not Catholicism. Yeah there was some trade with the Muslim world but trade with the Franks and Constantinople was MUCH more important. Also becoming Muslim would paint an even bigger target on their backs, they wouldn't be able to withstand a full blown invasion from Western Europe like the Baltic crusades.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      good point but i feel like those on the periphery would still be tempted bc the trinity is a hard pill to swallow and filters brainlets

      >Islam
      >theologically-sound

      homosexual

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        >homosexual

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          Why was the prophet mohammed (pbuh) such a gay?

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        In a former life I was the prophet Mohammed’s (pbuh) gay lover. He sucked me off to completion and I came all over his beard. I’m black btw.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      The Orthodox actually got to Scandinavia before the Catholics did. The Pope had them all murdered and their churches burnt down. Saxo Grammaticus's liege, Bishop Absalom, was one of the rare "dual bishops" (he was bishop of two sees at once). One of his bishoprics was earned by fighting the Wends (a Germano-Slavic confederacy whose patron deities were Svantovit and Odin), the other was for exterminating the last Orthodox clerics from Denmark. Saxo's views on the Orthodox (glee at having killed them) are a good refutation of the whole "Saxo uniquely hated his own people" thing: I think the dude was just somewhat of a psychopath.

      Interestingly, a lot of religions (including several forms of Christianity) organized themselves on an Islamic model. A Scandinavia that was more closely involved in the Islamic world (IDK how this would possibly happen given the geography) might have seen an Asatru that set itself up in in such a format. The Mari, the Finnic polytheists in Russia, did this, complete with a shariah analogue. They use the word "imam" to refer to certain classes of priests, and refer to pilgrimages as "hajjs" (up until relatively recently they had no reason to ever go on a pilgrimage as all of their holy sites were nearby).

  3. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Arianism was theologically sound, that's why they had to threaten Arius with death to stop it because their arguments couldn't stand up to his theology.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      no it wasnt. it directly contradicted the gospels.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        lol
        post the direct contradiction

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          “In [Jesus Christ] all things were created: . . . all things have been created through him and for him” (Colossians 1:16).
          “in the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word [Jesus] was God. He was with God in the beginning. Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. In him was life, and that life was the light of all mankind. (John 1:1-4).
          "And now, Father, glorify me in your own presence with the glory that I had with you before the world existed. John 17:5"
          “I and the Father are one” (John 10:30)."
          "By the word of the LORD the heavens were made, and by the breath (the word is ruach which is also used for the Spirit, so this can also be translated as Spirit) of his mouth all their host. Psalms 33:6 "
          If everything that was ever made was done so by him and he existed before that while also being God (whose uncreated) the he is also uncreated.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/cTGoP0I.jpg

      Is Islam just a theologically-sound Arianism?

      Arianism posits that Jesus was the first created being and I have read some esoteric Islamic material that claims
      >Let there be light
      in Genesis is ackshually the creation of Muhammad, or “the light (nūr) of Muhammad”. I suppose the same argument can be made with Jesus from a Christian perspective.

  4. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    About as sound as Christianity

  5. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    >is religion from middle east actually about indian peninsula people?
    Considering that both are Asians you are on to something, anon

  6. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Arianism believes that Jesus is a lesser god unlike Islam. The closest ideologies to Islam are Cerinthianism and Ebionism.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      redpill me on Cerinthus, I never heard of this until now

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        Muslisms are closer to ebionites and its possible thats what they were originally.

        Cerinthus is possesionist christology, when the dove came down from heaven, the was the logos, the Son, possessing a guy named jesus.

        that part is pretty sound, its the rest of his stuff, which was probably made up by his detractors, but the rest of the stuff was millenarianism with lots of sex and earthly pleasures. again, probably made up. its easy to see how someone could come to a possesionist conclusion from the text, you don't need to add the rest of the gnostic stuff to that.

        • 6 months ago
          JWanon

          Ebionites didn't believe in the virgin birth

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            they're not ebionites. they're closer to Ebionites than arians or other sects, and they inhabited the same area. muhhamed probably met an ebionite.

            no they are not closer to Ebionites, like the JW said. The Quran has a prexistenent Jesus who was cast down from God to Mary and returned to God, not to jannah, to God, that’s what it says. This is not Ebionite, they did not accept the virgin birth or anything remotely divine about Jesus. Also the “possessionist” ideology you describe sounds similar to what detractors have levied against alleged “Nestorianism” and possibly Adoptionism

            im just telling you, thats what Cerinthus believed, and it makes some sense.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            They cannot be very much like Ebionites while believing Jesus was sent down to Mary as a spirit and that he is the word of god (kalimatallah) and spirit of god (ruhallah). You are just saying Ebionite because you THINK Jesus is just a prophet to Muslims in exactly the same way Ebionites had him. That’s the sole reason you’re saying it. You don’t know what you’re saying at all actually

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            It is the closest to Islam. Arianism and trinitarianism are a lot further away. I'm saying I think the prophet may have spoken with a few of them living in the area, then incorporated their deemphasis on divinity when writing the Q. Also makes sense because the Q is more israeli.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            I just told you why it isn’t. You’re just parroting shit you half-read somewhere. Sectarian non-trinitarian Syriac Christianity like that of Paul of Samosota is more in line with Quranic christology and overall theology. I don’t really think you know jack shit tbh. The quran is a very mysterious and very syncretic codex encompassing israeli, various Gnostic, syriac, and zoroastrian influence
            >an illiterate arab missing from the historical record in a cave wrote it cause an angel told him what to write
            you don’t really believe this right?

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            Both of those still have jesus as god which is more distant, but its not worth waiting any longer for you to grasp this.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            >both
            I mentioned more than two things. no, 3rd century sectarian ante-nicene syriac christianity did not have Jesus as god, rather, the servant of god. “eastern orthodoxy” is a title, the true eastern strains of Christianity are found in the syriac tradition totally outside of rome and Greece, its center was Baghdad. emphasis here on sectarian and ante-nicene

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            They cannot be very much like Ebionites while believing Jesus was sent down to Mary as a spirit and that he is the word of god (kalimatallah) and spirit of god (ruhallah). You are just saying Ebionite because you THINK Jesus is just a prophet to Muslims in exactly the same way Ebionites had him. That’s the sole reason you’re saying it. You don’t know what you’re saying at all actually

            It is the closest to Islam. Arianism and trinitarianism are a lot further away. I'm saying I think the prophet may have spoken with a few of them living in the area, then incorporated their deemphasis on divinity when writing the Q. Also makes sense because the Q is more israeli.

            At the end of the day, JW theology is the only one that makes sense

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            It can make all the human "sense" in the world, but such a Bible centric group ought to know that their prophet failed the false prophecy test as described straightforwardly in the OT, the punishment for which is death, not adoption of their views. Now I don't think we should kill anyone, but as literalists, kinda hard to figure how they follow a false prophet.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            What false prophets ?

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            Russell made prophecies which didn't come true. I'm not going to go through qoute by qoute with you, anyone can look up for himself he says his dates were gods dates, and other stuff.
            By the OT definition, it's false prophesy. It's amazing they're such literalists that they take the numbers in revelation literally which no one else does, but that on the OT definition of false prophecy, they immediatly resort to catholic tier apologias about how it was a matter of "immature understanding".
            This discrepancy and exception they make for literally interpreting false prophecy tells you all you need to know about how worried they are about it, and how obviously false their teaching is. They really should just refuse to discuss it.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            Did Russell claim to be a prophet or to receive revelations from God ?

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            He did. He claimed the numbers and dates were gods numbers, not his, on multiple occasions, and implied it on others. He nominated the governing body who nominated the elders who became future governing body.

            It is a succession of false prophecy. For them to be taken seriously, they must oust all the governing body and all theology based on rusells teaching and rebuild. Or give up literalism.

            You can't be a literalist and a JW, unless you're okay with living in a condemned church.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            >He did

            Where ?

            >He claimed the numbers and dates were gods numbers

            Which numbers ? Which dates ?

            >they must oust all the governing body and all theology based on rusells teaching

            What in my theology is based on Russell's ?

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            Really all that's needed to convict him on false prophecy charges:
            >We see no reason for changing the figures—nor could we change them if we would, They are, we believe, God's dates, not ours. But bear in mind that the end of 1914 is not the date for the beginning, but for the end of the time of the trouble.

            Literally self owning, admitting the standard to judge false prophets:
            >"Jehovah… will put all false prophets to shame either by not fulfilling the false prediction of such self-assuming prophets or by having His own prophecies fulfilled in a way opposite to that predicted by the false prophets."

            It's irrefutable. On the one hand he's told you what you need to know a false prophet. Even if you don't accept that, he claimed to speak for god and was wrong. Either way, false prophet.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            >We see no reason for changing the figures—nor could we change them if we would, They are, we believe, God's dates, not ours. But bear in mind that the end of 1914 is not the date for the beginning, but for the end of the time of the trouble

            Yes, we believe that. 1914 is God's number since it is in Scripture. So not a false prophecy.

            >"Jehovah… will put all false prophets to shame either by not fulfilling the false prediction of such self-assuming prophets or by having His own prophecies fulfilled in a way opposite to that predicted by the false prophets."

            I agree! A false prophet is someone who claims false divine revelation. Russell never claimed divine revelation. So not a false prophet.

            >It's irrefutable. On the one hand he's told you what you need to know a false prophet. Even if you don't accept that, he claimed to speak for god and was wrong. Either way, false prophet.

            Did Russell claim to be a prophet or to receive revelations from God ?

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            You're reverting to catholic doubletalk when you claim to read the text plainly.

            He plainly stated, they were God's numbers, not his. He didn't say anything about the bible. He made a false prophecy when he said that. That is prophecy. That is speaking for God. You are part of a legacy of false prophecy.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            >He plainly stated, they were God's numbers, not his

            I agree, 1914 is God's number.

            >He didn't say anything about the bible

            We base our beliefs about the significance of 1914 on biblical chronology, which tells us the destruction of Jerusalem and the beginning of the Babylonian captivity both occurred in 607 BCE.
            Daniel chapter 4 prophesied a period of 2,520 years starting with 607 BCE and ending at 1914 CE.

            We equate this period with the "Gentile Times" or "the appointed times of the nations" (Luke 21:24). When the Babylonians conquered Jerusalem, the line of kings descended from David was interrupted, and God's throne was "trampled on" from then until Jesus began ruling in 1914.
            This is confirmed by world events since 1914, including wars, famine, earthquakes and increasing lawlessness, which are a fulfillment of the "sign" of Christ's presence. Our preaching is also part of that sign (Matthew 24:14).

            >He made a false prophecy when he said that

            No, it's called exegesis.

            >That is speaking for God.

            The Bibel speaks for God and the Bible points to 1914.

            >You are part of a legacy of false prophecy.

            What false prophecy ?

            Also can I ask you what is your religion ?

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            >I agree, 1914 is God's number.
            Then you are also a false prophet.
            see:

            >Franz (current President) said, "JEHOVAH IS THE EDITOR OF THE
            WATCHTOWER (Moyle vs. WT). Franz said he was a Hebrew and Greek scholar,
            but could not translate Gen. 2:4 before the judge. He also claimed he was offered a
            Cecil Rhodes Scholarship. The Rhodes Scholarship Trust's president stated, "I have
            checked our records and do not find Frederick Franz was elected to a Rhodes
            Scholarship."

            Claiming personal revelation

            >1968 “True, there have been those in times past who predicted an ‘end to the world’, even announcing a specific date. Yet nothing happened. The ‘end’ did not come. They were guilty of false prophesying. Why? What was missing? . . . Missing from such people were God’s truths and evidence that he was using and guiding them,” (Awake, Oct. 8, 1968).

            admitting to false prophecy

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Franz (current President) said, "JEHOVAH IS THE EDITOR OF THE
            WATCHTOWER (Moyle vs. WT). Franz said he was a Hebrew and Greek scholar,
            but could not translate Gen. 2:4 before the judge. He also claimed he was offered a
            Cecil Rhodes Scholarship. The Rhodes Scholarship Trust's president stated, "I have
            checked our records and do not find Frederick Franz was elected to a Rhodes
            Scholarship."

            Claiming personal revelation

            >1968 “True, there have been those in times past who predicted an ‘end to the world’, even announcing a specific date. Yet nothing happened. The ‘end’ did not come. They were guilty of false prophesying. Why? What was missing? . . . Missing from such people were God’s truths and evidence that he was using and guiding them,” (Awake, Oct. 8, 1968).

            admitting to false prophecy

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            >WATCHTOWER (Moyle vs. WT). Franz said he was a Hebrew and Greek scholar,

            When did he say that ?

            >1968 “True, there have been those in times past who predicted an ‘end to the world’, even announcing a specific date. Yet nothing happened. The ‘end’ did not come. They were guilty of false prophesying. Why? What was missing? . . . Missing from such people were God’s truths and evidence that he was using and guiding them,” (Awake, Oct. 8, 1968).

            Indeed, they were false prophets if they claimed divine revelation

            >admitting to false prophecy

            How ? They enver claimed ti be prophets of to receive divine revelation. All they do is try to interpret the Bible. Itns called exegesis, not prophesying

            >I agree, 1914 is God's number.
            Then you are also a false prophet.
            see:[...]

            >Then you are also a false prophet

            Why ?

            >see

            What does your post have to do with 1914 ?

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            >coping this hard
            Lol, your own publication admits you are false prophets, and your own prophet admits how to recognize false prophets mentioning nothing about revelation. I have had enough, as usual you just try to tire people out. I'm glad people ITT see the JWs as they really are.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Lol, your own publication admits you are false prophets

            Did the publications claim to be written by prophets or to receive revelations from God ?

            >and your own prophet admits how to recognize false prophets mentioning nothing about revelation

            According to the Bible a false prophet is someone who claims false divine revelation. Has a JW ever claimed this ?

            > I have had enough, as usual you just try to tire people out. I'm glad people ITT see the JWs as they really are.

            *Flees as soon as he is confronted with his own contradictions*

            Many such cases.

            “No weapon formed against you will have any success.”—ISAIAH 54:17

            Amen, amen

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            >The Rhodes Scholarship Trust's president stated, "I have checked our records and do not find Frederick Franz was elected to a Rhodes Scholarship."

            The only source of this quote I found is a random anti-JW blog

            Whatns your endgame?

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            you follow a flagrantly heretical false sect which has been more consistently wrong about scripture than any of the worst heresys in histroy, no one else comes remotely close, and you ask me what my endgame is?

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            >you follow a flagrantly heretical false sect

            How ?

            >which has been more consistently wrong about scripture than any of the worst heresys in histroy

            Everything that opposers of Jehovah's Witnesses believe to be so important really is comparatively inconsequential.

            While Jehovah's Witnesses still adjust minor understandings of prophecy and periphery beliefs, major doctrines will not be changed because the doctrinal knowledge has increased so much that any recent changes have not been to doctrine but simple refinements in knowledge.

            >no one else comes remotely close,

            I agree ! We are in the truth, no other religion comes close !

            >and you ask me what my endgame is?

            I already know what it is.

            “People will reproach you and persecute you and lyingly say every sort of wicked thing against you for my sake.”—Matthew 5:11, 12.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            When rebuked for correction at your false teach you doubled down on your sin an go ever further, refusing to admit even though your false teaching was so public and transparent, rejecting the example of the disciples who even admitted of instruction from a brother or from Jesus. That tells anyone all they need to know about who is really in charge of the JWs. Pride like that has one source, and follows one example.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            >When rebuked for correction

            where ?

            >at your false teach

            What do I believe that is false ?

            >refusing to admit even though your false teaching was so public and transparent,

            What false teaching ?

            >That tells anyone all they need to know about who is really in charge of the JWs.

            Jesus is the head of our organization

            >Pride like that has one source, and follows one example.

            Explain why wouldn't I be proud to serve the one true God

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            >He did

            Where ?

            >He claimed the numbers and dates were gods numbers

            Which numbers ? Which dates ?

            >they must oust all the governing body and all theology based on rusells teaching

            What in my theology is based on Russell's ?

            *slanderer goes silent once asked to back up his claims*

            Many such cases

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          no they are not closer to Ebionites, like the JW said. The Quran has a prexistenent Jesus who was cast down from God to Mary and returned to God, not to jannah, to God, that’s what it says. This is not Ebionite, they did not accept the virgin birth or anything remotely divine about Jesus. Also the “possessionist” ideology you describe sounds similar to what detractors have levied against alleged “Nestorianism” and possibly Adoptionism

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            >The Quran has a prexistenent Jesus who was cast down from God to Mary and returned to God, not to jannah, to God, that’s what it says. This is not Ebionite, they did not accept the virgin birth or anything remotely divine about Jesus.
            Don't muslims reject the notion that Jesus is divine, though? They are stories of them who realised the quran implied Jesus' divinity and converted to trinitarian christianity. This makes the quran schizophrenic in the parts where you have Jesus presented as just a prophet, even more so when the quran's treatement of the bible is like that too. (judge by the bible, composed of the new and old testament, the previous actually being a corrupted version of the word of Allah, the engels, and the latter also corrupted by the israelites, but you have to follow them and their moral standards, even though it contradicts the quran and islam).

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            the quran and what became orthodox islam are two very different things

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        Cerinthus rejected the Trinity and the Virgin Birth, he preached that Jesus was a purely human prophet and that he will found an earthly kingdom once he comes back.

        Many Christians in the past held that Cerinthus wrote Revelation.

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          wrong

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            What is wrong about what i've said? Care to elaborate?

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            The most important bit is the possession by the Logos. Jesus wasn't just some dude. When he was teaching, that was the logos walking around in his body.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            He literally was. Jesus was merely a righteous man who acted as a vessel for Christ according to Cerinthian theology.

            > Cerinthus, again, a man who was educated in the wisdom of the Egyptians, taught that the world was not made by the primary God, but by a certain Power far separated from him, and at a distance from that Principality who is supreme over the universe, and ignorant of him who is above all.

            >He represented Jesus as having not been born of a virgin, but as being the son of Joseph and Mary according to the ordinary course of human generation, while he nevertheless was more righteous, prudent, and wise than other men. Moreover, after his baptism, Christ descended upon him in the form of a dove from the Supreme Ruler, and that then he proclaimed the unknown Father, and performed miracles. But at last Christ departed from Jesus, and that then Jesus suffered and rose again, while Christ remained impassible, inasmuch as he was a spiritual being.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            >But at last Christ departed from Jesus, and that then Jesus suffered and rose again
            this is what is described exactly in the gospel of phillip, which was quoted by justin martyr and clement, and fragments were discovered in 1886 buried with an egyptian priest, also with greek fragments of enoch

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            https://www.newadvent.org/cathen/03539a.html

            not worth wasting time debating, read the article, all the sources are there.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            Dude I literally provided you with a source backing my claim. Why are you still coping?

            I can't access your link btw.

            ftfm

            Wow, thanks. I appreciate this very much. Why do they reject Jude and the other stuff? Contrary to this, I remember reading the Ethiopians just keep adding books or at the very least affirming new writings as inspired. Can you comment on this at all? Sorry for being unclear I just don’t remember much about what I read beyond that

            They reject these books for the same reason that Christians reject the Gospel of Thomas, i.e. they consider them to be forgeries.

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Many Christians in the past held that Cerinthus wrote Revelation.
          no they didn’t shut up

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            wrong

            They did. The Alogi in the West rejected it because they thought Cerinthus wrote it and the Church of the East still reject for the same reason.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            >the Church of the East still reject for the same reason
            can you show me the church of the east rejecting it? I can use this information to frick with a certain apologist who is a member of the assyrian church but doesn’t seem to understand that it is now cucked to the catholics

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            Catechism
            The Holy Apostolic Catholic Assyrian
            Church of the East

            >The Church of the East and her Ancient Fathers confess 22 New Testament Books. (The five books in the English Bible not included in the Sacred Canon of The Church of the East are: II Peter, II & III John, Jude and The Revelation of John).
            https://bethkokheh.assyrianchurch.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/catechism-of-the-Church-of-the-East-edited-in-the-year-2020.pdf

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            Wow, thanks. I appreciate this very much. Why do they reject Jude and the other stuff? Contrary to this, I remember reading the Ethiopians just keep adding books or at the very least affirming new writings as inspired. Can you comment on this at all? Sorry for being unclear I just don’t remember much about what I read beyond that

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Many Christians in the past held that Cerinthus wrote Revelation.
          Bro, what? All the information on this guy is from St Iraenaeus and Epiphanius and they relate that John the evangelist and him were rivals.
          Legit, I doubt I would have heard about him just now if anyone suspected this.

  7. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Is Islam just a theologically-sound Arianism?
    No. The dysgenic elements overwhelm any metaphysical potential sadly, which is why so many turned to the cross (instinctively). But as a Nord I deeply admire Gaddafi, Assad and other such exceptional leaders tbh

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      >The dysgenic elements
      I said the theology. What dysgenia are you talking and why do you think it breaks the theology?

  8. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    cast down as spirit*

  9. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    >What id the Vikings became Muslim?
    They would get crusaded.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      >What id
      what if*

  10. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    https://www.newadvent.org/cathen/03539a.htm

    try that
    it is well known what he believed, again, not having this argument with you over a fact that is well known

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Your source literally agrees with me too.

      >Cerinthus distinguished between Jesus and Christ. Jesus was mere man, though eminent in holiness.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        you're literally moronic or you didn't read it or you're trolling

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          Me
          >Jesus was a purely human prophet
          You
          >Jesus wasn't just some dude.
          Your link
          >Jesus was mere man, though eminent in holiness.

  11. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Arianism had to do with Arius the proto non-trinitarian Christian, not Aryans.

  12. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    What if you became a stupid Black person? Oh wait…

  13. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Just as a reminder, islam is a noahide kekold religion started by israelites to leverage arabs, at first, then others such as the turks, against Europe and the israelites other enemies.

  14. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    israelites bombed a Christian hospital today. Time to team up with Islam regardless Black folk put your gay little fairy tale fanfic questions aside for now.

  15. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Islam was like the very first of the American evangelical cults that worship israeliteS, See how they returned to israeli self-mutilation and animal-sacrifice rituals.

  16. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    I remember crying not to go to madrasas when my parents were literally forcing me to. Frick those places. Literally the gulags of schooling and education.
    Strange thing is I knew from the vibes as young as 7 or 6 years old that these places are absolute shit holes.

  17. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Allah does not exist

  18. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Is Islam just a theologically-sound Arianism?
    Nah. It's Arabized Judaism through and through.

  19. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Islam is just another scam

  20. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Cool, Now do the same with Catholic priests.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      The difference is that in Islam pedophilia is openly condoned and promoted, whereas at least Catholic pedos know they're doing something reprehensible and have to hide it.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      The Prophet (pbuh) lovingly took my whole BBC like only Allah’s chosen could.

  21. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    https://saispeaks.sathyasai.org/discourse/unity-and-purity-message-ramzan

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