Is God dead?

Give some arguments for and against religion nowadays.

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  1. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    something can’t die if it never lived

  2. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    if there is no god, then why do we exist? where did life come from? why is the universe here? what caused the big bang? what happens after death?

  3. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    For:
    We live in the most spiritually impoverished society and generation in the history of our species. Having a couple centuries or milennia of amassed advice and practices is an irreplaceable benefit that opens up a whole realm of experiences that are either natural or even integral to healthy human life.
    Also, from a purely intellectual perspective, many religions achieve or come close to achieving a complete consistency and unity across varying fields such as ethics, ontology, psychology and politics. Having one intervowen worldview always beats having 7 ones stitched together ad hoc.

    Against:
    you can be a moron about it or go overboard

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Having one intervowen worldview always beats having 7 ones stitched together ad hoc
      It doesn’t if it’s incorrect. All forms of belief are heuristics designed to provide the greatest amount of understanding at the lowest possible cognitive cost.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Stitching together unrelated 7 independent worldviews and switching between them multiple times per day is the cognitive cost.
        >if it's incorrect
        Then don't believe incorrect things.

  4. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    "God is dead" is not an argument for removing God from public life, it was a recognition that religion's influence in society is shrinking and the world is increasingly secular.
    It is so even more today than it was when Nietzsche wrote this.

    There is no way to revive God in broader society, no matter what fundamentalist christians and muslims try to force it on everyone else.

  5. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Religion was better than nihilism, but we can't go back.

    The only way forward is a transvaluation of all values that takes us beyond the old concepts of good and evil. We have to accept the recurring, cyclical nature of life (of which death is a part), and create beautiful things that last beyond ourselves.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Saying that irreligion is nihilism is like saying that apples are oranges.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        We are in an irreligious society. Would you say it's not nihilistic?

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          What I would say is that irreligion and nihilism are obviously not the same thing. Someone might be both but that's a coincidence and in no way a necessity.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            I by and large agree, but the undeniable fact is that for the first time in history we are an irreligious species, and also for the first time, we are fatally nihilistic. It may not be a certain thing that one becomes the other, but it has in the one time we've seen it. Perhaps even if nihilism isn't inevitable for an irreligious people, it is likely.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            If some irreligious people are nihilists then I would say they're wrong. There are many irreligious people who aren't nihilists. For me that's the right way to live, but if others want to believe differently, that's up to them I guess.

            Also I don't know anything about stats for nihilism. I've seen stats showing that irreligion has been rising across the western world for decades. But I dunno regarding nihilism.

  6. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Okay, here's the conclusive argument against religion:

    God doesn't exist. If anyone wants to claim he does then let them show a photo of God, or a video of God. If you say "he can't be perceived in any way" then that's the most hilarious joke I ever heard. Should we believe in invisible friends and invisible animals next?

  7. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    "God is dead" is not an argument against religion.

  8. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    God is still alive last time I checked.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      No he isn't. God doesn't exist.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        How do you know

        God is still alive last time I checked.

        How can i check if god is alive?

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          >How do you know
          The same way I know that invisible dogs aren't real, and leprechauns aren't real, and unicorns aren't real, etc.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            You don't know they are not real, you believe it.
            And the concept of a higher power/entity isn't as absurd as invisible dogs.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >You don't know they are not real, you believe it.
            A Christian doesn't know there's a God, they just believe it, yet they'll still say nonsense like "God exists".
            >And the concept of a higher power/entity isn't as absurd as invisible dogs.
            You're right, it's even more absurd. At least dogs are known to exist. A dog with special technology rendering it invisible is possible. But a "higher power" is something of a kind that has no evidence behind it whatsoever.

            [...]

            >Christian morality is stronger than it's ever been
            All religious moralities are false lies - in fact all religions are lies. Embrace the truth, which is atheism.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >I don't read things: the post

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah I'm not reading your /misc/ schizo shit.

  9. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    the quote in question is about "christian" morality being dead, which even most atheists seem to agree with to some extent

  10. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    For religion: the core of all religions is Love.

    Against religion: the misinterpretation of the Sacred Scriptures by the so called scholars makes the understanding of all religions hard. But that's not what drives atheists away from religions. Atheists have no interest in learning anything spiritual. They just want to mock divinity. They might think they are superior to others while spiritual people know that nobody is superior or inferior to anybody.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Love
      You mistyped "lies"

      Also the fact that all religions are lies isn't an argument for religion, it's an argument against religion.

  11. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    For: the creation argument

    Against: the existence of evil

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